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Post by Peter on Aug 5, 2015 10:42:36 GMT -5
I myself think harsh teachers are begging for an a$$-kicking. It is prohibited to suggest that violence against women is acceptable on this forum. But suggesting violence against men is acceptable? Christ, has it come to this that I'm being asked to state interdictions against intimations of violence here, on a so-called spiritual forum? Rather than coming up with new rules that I then find Reefs firing back at me using to suit his agenda, I think I'll just note that Silver's post is covered by existing Forum Guidelines of "provoking other members or antagonising members to gain a response is not acceptable" and ask Silver to please make more of an effort to get in touch with whatever is good, guiding and connected in her life and post in a spirit of reconciliation rather than sleep walking into further division. I see ZD is offering to give it some space and then potentially move inflammatory posts to the UM area. I think that's very generous of him. Personally I haven't got available 1% of the time that enterprise would require. Peter, I'm still waiting for a comment on my reported posts. Your complaints where marked as 'dealt with' and archived. The notes that Popee had made on them before he left can be summarised as "They're all as bad as each other" which I agree with. There's no obvious "first punch" or sole aggressor on either side. It's been about a week now. You are not trying to just sit that one out, I hope. In the mean time we've lost 3 veteran senior members. And I'm speculating it has something to do with what you are doing here, or maybe with the fact that you are not doing anything at all. To answer your question, I wasn't planning on taking any action on your complaints no, but you pull me back in so here I am. I tried, Reefs, I tried encouraging members here to up their game and 'be nice' and conform to some idea I have in my head about how People on a Spiritual Path should behave. It's amusing that you also are using rhetoric and emotional blackmail here to try and make me conform to some idea you have in your head about how an effective moderator should behave. I think I now agree with you and ZD that what would be effective (since I tried the other and failed) is a sudden axe, no discussion moderation. But I don't want to do that, it's not me. The post of moderator has been open for some time to anyone who wants to give it a go. I'd like you to consider Reefs, that it is the posters on this forum who make it what it is, and the more prolific the poster the more true that is. You yourself have posted 12 times as many posts as I have, even considering you joined in 2012 and I've been here since 2008. I suggest that you perhaps more than others set the tone of this forum. I was going to ask if you were inclusive or rejecting, but of course you reject. You'd have me kick out Andy, Figgles, Silver, Tzu. Anyone who doesn't fit your profile. I'm not willing to ban people - as I think you want me to - on the grounds of "not being a serious non-dualist". I might consider being stricter with the "provoking other members" thing, but for that to be enforceable, you yourself would have to refrain from provoking the people you're reporting for provoking, and I haven't seen any evidence that you're capable of doing that....not for any significant length of time anyway. |
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Post by Peter on Jul 28, 2015 6:53:33 GMT -5
Okay, Are you expecting anything from me? You force my hand here Gopal, and so define rigid roles for both of us. Such a lost opportunity. Please acknowledge that you understand the following: It is prohibited to suggest that violence against women is acceptable on this forum. |
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Post by Peter on Jul 28, 2015 5:58:02 GMT -5
You didn't answer any of my questions Gopal. It's rare that anyone ever does. It doesn't suit their agenda. To answer yours: I skim read the preceding conversation and I saw mutual escalation, baiting and antagonism on both sides. Would I be tolerant of stupid questions? Yes I like to think I would, but I don't take stupid questions as personally as I think you do. I think you find them insulting. Not to say that I don't get wound up from time to time of course, but different things wind me up. Seeing the humour in the situation is a great stress reliever. In the case of having "bought the ticket", my interpretation was that Wren was asking you if you are taking the journey that you're suggesting should be taken. P I was explaining the hypothetical situation which she clearly knows that, but still she is asking me 'haven't you taken the ticket yet'? how would you interpret this situation? Are you saying that complete fault is on me? I was clearly not suggesting any journey towards Andaman, She clearly knows, She intentionally asked me 'haven't you taken ticket yet'? Aren't you feeling the same? You have again avoided answering my questions. When you say "complete fault", you are trying to force me into some black and white pronouncement which I'm not making. I was clear when I said I saw escalation and antagonism on both sides. You're not listening, you're stuck in "I'm right, he and she are wrong" when you have an opportunity to look at your state of being/behaviour (specifically: wound up to the point of bringing the threat of violence into the discussion) and learn something. So I'll say no more. Peter PS To ensure I'm not a hypocrite I will answer your question: Yes I do agree with you in that I feel Wren intentionally asked you about buying a ticket. There is a joke to be seen here, if you hadn't been so insulted by it. In my mind, you're insulted because you're attached. |
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Post by Peter on Jul 27, 2015 3:48:04 GMT -5
Your post was reported and I was asked to review the response. Is it usual for a husband to slap his wife for a stupid action in your country Gopal? In my country the husband might expect to be taken away by the police and spend a night in the cells. So no, it's not usual here and it wouldn't be usual for Wren. Does anyone slap you for your stupid actions? We all do and say stupid things from time to time. P Did you read the following conversation with her? Do you know why I say that to her? She is posting stupid reply everytime which is not related to what I am talking, Just provoke me, I was explaining something to someone but she unnecessarily intrude here and talking some nonsense, I told her to stop it and I told her many times, but she hasn't listened me anytime, she was posting something stupid all the time which is completely unrelated. I was explaining why I believe predetermination by explaining the journey of travelling Andaman but she was asking 'Haven't you booked the ticket yet?' Would you be tolerating such stupid question every time If it is thrown at you? Everytime she does this. You didn't answer any of my questions Gopal. It's rare that anyone ever does. It doesn't suit their agenda. To answer yours: I skim read the preceding conversation and I saw mutual escalation, baiting and antagonism on both sides. Would I be tolerant of stupid questions? Yes I like to think I would, but I don't take stupid questions as personally as I think you do. I think you find them insulting. Not to say that I don't get wound up from time to time of course, but different things wind me up. Seeing the humour in the situation is a great stress reliever. In the case of having "bought the ticket", my interpretation was that Wren was asking you if you are taking the journey that you're suggesting should be taken. P |
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Post by Peter on Jul 26, 2015 5:25:29 GMT -5
Is it usual to get a slap from your husband for your stupid actions in your everyday reality,yes?No? Your post was reported and I was asked to review the response. Is it usual for a husband to slap his wife for a stupid action in your country Gopal? In my country the husband might expect to be taken away by the police and spend a night in the cells. So no, it's not usual here and it wouldn't be usual for Wren. Does anyone slap you for your stupid actions? We all do and say stupid things from time to time. P |
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Post by Peter on Jun 29, 2015 3:33:55 GMT -5
Enigma 101: The mind, the body and the brain are all appearances in consciousness. What are you saying here, that all matter is an appearance in consciousness, and there is only one consciousness? |
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Post by Peter on Jun 25, 2015 3:47:53 GMT -5
I don't buy body issues (residual energy) that are not in the mind. I perked up at that. Are you making a distinction between the mind and the body, locating the mind solely in the brain? All body issues would be experienced by the mind, at some level - possibly not acknowledged - you'd agree? I came across this recently, which seems to be the scientists finally making sense of "gut reactions", butterflies in the tummy and so on en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enteric_nervous_system |
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Post by Peter on Jun 23, 2015 4:18:27 GMT -5
There nothing I don't understand about it Ok cool. Douglas Adams comes to mind: Well since I have Your attention right now, I have some questions, if I may: 1. Are human beings influenced by entities currently undetectable to main stream science, if so what entities and for what purpose (top 3 say)? 2. Do we have souls, and if so what is their nature, and relationship to the bodies they're linked to? I'm getting at "Soul Purpose" here, and discounting pre-adamic man if that's relevant to the question. Actually, that covers it. I'm fine with the rest of it. |
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Post by Peter on Jun 22, 2015 10:04:05 GMT -5
Interesting. Is the essence of that art captured anywhere other than everywhere? I had a friend staying this weekend who had a phrase "Can I love myself enough to...." which basically seemed like giving herself permission to do whatever she wanted - having her cake and eating it. For me, one of the essential elements of the Spiritual Life is the balance between denying yourself nothing and denying yourself everything. The Buddha had an analogy about tuning a lute that spoke to the same question. Sorry that's probably totally off topic to what you're saying, it just came strongly to mind when you said Self Love. It seems you haven't awakened to the truth that consciousness is omnipresent. Well I've described myself as a panentheist, so while I might say I'm signed up to the Truth of it, I can't say that I have a day to day experience of it. My consciousness doesn't extend very far outside of this sack of skin I'm currently sitting in. And while I might imagine that it's unbound in time, space and higher dimensions, I couldn't reliably tell you how many fingers you're currently holding up. If you can consciously perceive how many I'm holding up er...now...., I'll ask you to take me on as a student. P |
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Post by Peter on Jun 22, 2015 7:26:19 GMT -5
I would say that it's better to be aware of a 'big, healthy and vocal' ego than be unaware of, or in denial of, the same! For sure |
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Post by Peter on Jun 22, 2015 7:24:33 GMT -5
Hi Alpha My take our our current experience is that perception is entirely limited to 3 dimensions. What might seem to be perception in the 4th seems - to me - more like memory of the past or imagination of the future, but in the current moment. Is it ever possible to say - such and such an experience is a true perception of some other thing and not just imagination? My imaginings about the 5th Dimension, and I hold my hand up to having read far too much science fiction, is that it would constitute movement through all possible universes. All that can possibly be. But you know, I don't suppose dimensions come with indexes so your 5th might be my 6th. It's just convention that we call the first 3 space and the 4th one "time". Are you pulling your understanding from any particular tradition or literature? I wondered if you'd come across the idea of 5th Density - coming from the channellings of Ra / Law of One (well, lets not say it started there, I wager that material pulled from the esoteric cosmology theory of 'planes'). Oh, I see Carla Rueckert died a couple of months ago, 1st of April. www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_dimensionshyperdimensions07.htm |
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Post by Peter on Jun 22, 2015 6:25:50 GMT -5
You strike me as someone that holds a very strong self-image of you An absence of self acceptance. What a laugh. You and Tenka are made for each other. Keep on going though. It's entertaining if nothing else. LOL. What's impressing me here - at this moment - is how an ego so big, healthy and vocal can hide itself so completely from its owner. It reminds me of elephants painting their toenails red so they can hide in cherry trees. |
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Post by Peter on Jun 13, 2015 4:22:14 GMT -5
** Mimes throwing a wounded bird **
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Post by Peter on May 12, 2015 6:55:29 GMT -5
You might find it less...distracting to just post what's going on with you to some blog (like blogger.com) and the post a link to that here when the 10 days are up and see what comes from that. I think posting and reading the feedback HERE on a daily basis is exactly what I'd hope you'd be trying to get away from.  |
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Post by Peter on Apr 28, 2015 6:52:12 GMT -5
I'm really appreciating the way that reading some of the posts on this website remind me how precious little time we have on this planet and to make the most of every moment, especially when you're watching kids grow up because before you know it they'll be locking themselves in their bedrooms playing loud music and then leave home.
Tick tock, tick tock.
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