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Post by Goodperson on Apr 13, 2010 1:49:21 GMT -5
There is no truth in atheism.
Atheism is not older than 200 years old it is a modern error created by sinners people who are or did doing immoral things and don't like the idea of being punished.
What happened what, the false lie of evolution came about in 1700's and 1800's it was self created to try and disprove God. It was created by immoral people who don't like the reality that God exists.
God exists, when we accept this fact and understand God is life, love, intelligence, substance, all-powerful, all-present, and all-knowing then we really can understand about life and love it.
Nothing exists apart from God and God's ideas (creation).
Atheism was created by immoral people, who don't like the idea of their being a God becuase they believe they would be punished in the afterlife. What they did was then go a step further and say 'God doesnt exist' to try and justify their sin.
Atheists you must cease sin at all costs, anyone can defeat sin. To sin you must first think it, you can break the sin whilst thinking of it, you can unmask it and defeat it with the reality of goodness and love. If you act the sin and it is an extreme sin ie murder, cexual abuse of a person etc. THEN WE NEED CAPITAL PUNISHMENT, we must hang and electrocute these sinners. Cease sin at all costs, stay true, be good, be moral. Forget atheism. Atheism is immoral.
God bless.
GOD IS LOVE
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Post by zendancer on Apr 13, 2010 8:11:47 GMT -5
Goodperson: Welcome to the board. Just from reading your post you don't sound like a very loving person. You sound very angry, judgemental, and condemnatory. Tell us about your personal experience of God's love and why your understanding of God's love has filled you with so much hatred and selfrighteousness.
You wrote that anyone can defeat sin, but have you defeated sin? Are you sin-free? You wrote that to sin one must first think sin. Are you able to prevent thinking sinful thoughts? If so, how do you do that?
Also, please tell us why you call yourself "goodperson." Are you really a good person? Remember, God will be aware of your response to this question, so take your time, look within yourself, and be honest. Are you good, and why do you think so?
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Post by Guest on Apr 13, 2010 12:43:15 GMT -5
Why do we want stuff?
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Post by Guest on Apr 13, 2010 12:44:48 GMT -5
"Goodpost", Zendancer!
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Post by karen on Apr 13, 2010 14:41:38 GMT -5
What is moral and what is immoral? If i followed the bible to the letter on this, I would now be considered a sociopath and possibly on death row myself.
So how is it that moralities can change so dramatically over time? Given this, can there even be a foundation to morality?
I've answered these questions myself. You can too. But not by thinking.
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Post by Goodperson on Apr 13, 2010 14:42:20 GMT -5
zendancer im not really going to debate anyone with zen in their name becuase as i understand it zen is quite nihilistic. But il give it ago. According to zen philosophy love doesn't exist. So you my friend are a hypocrite  (or im just not understanding zen very well), i dig around on some other threads aswell and you say 'love is an illusion' so according to you love is not real. So please don't go down that route with me. I understand love and i am a loving person. How was my post 'angry' or 'judgemental'? Dam right my friend! Righteouness is correct about me, hatred no. Zendancer sin is just a man made false belief, if you don't want it you don't have to have it. To me it is unreal, false belief. I am a moral person and to me sin is an error not part of life. I want nothing to do with it. Love defeats all so called 'sin'. Love is the cure for all. God is love. I agree with you God is omnipresent infinite mind. Telepathic he knows all our thoughts. He knows the real us. There are no secrets. God knows me and i am a good person. God is Good and God made us Good!! Good is life. Btw zendancer your 'zen' belief system doesn't believe in God. So not sure why you brought God up, but anyway i answered your questions. God bless. |
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Post by karen on Apr 13, 2010 14:51:04 GMT -5
According to zen philosophy love doesn't exist. So you my friend are a hypocrite (or im just not understanding zen very well)... Yes, you don't understand Zen very well Cabin. What does belief in God or Love have to do with God or Love? |
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Post by Goodperson on Apr 13, 2010 15:35:27 GMT -5
Zendancer made it very clear in his post he doesnt believe in love, and that love is an 'illusion' so it is not real for him.
That is my point.
The zen philosophy explains that love is an 'illusion' like everything. For people who believe in zen (zen is a belief system love is not real) yet zendancer contradicts this by then almost admitting he does believe in love.
He is confused.. one minute he says love is an 'illusion' the next he is defending love on the basis it is real.
Love is real. The illusion teaching is only found in eastern thought (Zen Buddhism). And let's be honest it can only be a cold person who has never experienced love who says it is an illusion and not real.
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Post by Guest on Apr 13, 2010 15:38:41 GMT -5
Why do you want things to be a certain way, Goodperson?
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Post by Goodperson on Apr 13, 2010 15:42:21 GMT -5
What is moral and what is immoral? If i followed the bible to the letter on this, I would now be considered a sociopath and possibly on death row myself. So how is it that moralities can change so dramatically over time? Given this, can there even be a foundation to morality? I've answered these questions myself. You can too. But not by thinking. Karen im not judging. But really you sound like a drug addict. Just type something normal which people can understand. I know nothing is real to you but please remember many people do enjoy life and morality is something which is a universal law and principle God put it in man. You only need to study the conscience to understand this. People were made moral. It is only out of faulty thinking (error) that people turn to the 'immoral'. |
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Post by Goodperson on Apr 13, 2010 15:45:06 GMT -5
Why do you want things to be a certain way, Goodperson? Becuase we create our own reality. My reality is based on Goodness. It is what makes my life. I wouldn't have it any other way. |
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Post by Guest on Apr 13, 2010 15:54:18 GMT -5
Becuase we create our own reality. My reality is based on Goodness. It is what makes my life. I wouldn't have it any other way. Did you succeed in creating your "own" reality based on goodness? Or are you currently working on it (trying)? |
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Post by Guest2 on Apr 13, 2010 15:55:06 GMT -5
Fair play all.
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Post by Goodperson on Apr 13, 2010 16:05:38 GMT -5
Becuase we create our own reality. My reality is based on Goodness. It is what makes my life. I wouldn't have it any other way. Did you succeed in creating your "own" reality based on goodness? Or are you currently working on it (trying)? Good question. I have suceeded Guest as i am on the correct path but i would be a liar if i said im not still working on it. I still have much more work to do. If we all created our own reality based on goodness their would be no 'evil' this is my logic. Be brought up in the moutains away from 98% the world population and you would automatically have a mind with 100% goodness. It is only out of error (faulty thinking) that people believe or indulge in so called evil. People can create their own reality if you don't want evil in it, there doesn't have to be - simple as that. If we just killed all the 'evil' people - rapists, murderers etc and forgot about the word evil. There would be no evil. The next generation of people evil would not exist. We need to clear evil from the world it is a false belief. evil is neither necessary nor permanent and has no reality within itself, but has so called 'existence' only so long as human beings support it by believing in it. |
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Post by vacant on Apr 13, 2010 16:17:00 GMT -5
As far as I can read Good person, you are the only one on this thread who believes in evil. By your own reasoning you could stop that right now and it would stop having existence.  |
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(or im just not understanding zen very well), i dig around on some other threads aswell and you say 'love is an illusion' so according to you love is not real. So please don't go down that route with me. I understand love and i am a loving person. 
