Desire

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Desire seems to be there, hovering around the root of what it means to be us in this One.


1. What is Desire?

2. What is the relationship of desire with mind?

3. Where does desire originate?

4. What is the effect of desire?

5. What is the effect of desire-less-ness? 



I'm interested in every one's perspective on these questions?

[laughter]

May 11, 2014 15:03:49 GMT -5 @empty said:

1. What is Desire?

2. What is the relationship of desire with mind?

3. Where does desire originate?

4. What is the effect of desire?

5. What is the effect of desire-less-ness? 



I'm interested in every one's perspective on these questions?

1. Lack

2. Can't want what you don't think you have

3. (** skijump! **)

4. (** muttley snicker **)

5. (** muttley snicker **)^?

[silver]

May 11, 2014 15:03:49 GMT -5 @empty said:

Desire seems to be there, hovering around the root of what it means to be us in this One.


1. What is Desire?

2. What is the relationship of desire with mind?

3. Where does desire originate?

4. What is the effect of desire?

5. What is the effect of desire-less-ness? 



I'm interested in every one's perspective on these questions?

Are we talking 'desire' of anything?  soup to nuts?  hot fudge sundae, or a great career, anything/everything?

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May 11, 2014 15:27:05 GMT -5 silver said:

May 11, 2014 15:03:49 GMT -5 @empty said:

Desire seems to be there, hovering around the root of what it means to be us in this One.


1. What is Desire?

2. What is the relationship of desire with mind?

3. Where does desire originate?

4. What is the effect of desire?

5. What is the effect of desire-less-ness? 



I'm interested in every one's perspective on these questions?

Are we talking 'desire' of anything?  soup to nuts?  hot fudge sundae, or a great career, anything/everything?

Yep...desire in the general sense.

[silver]

For those who, like myself, aren't 'up' on this non-duality stuff completely, maybe a little help please?

I don't fully understand your question(s).

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May 11, 2014 15:54:04 GMT -5 silver said:

For those who, like myself, aren't 'up' on this non-duality stuff completely, maybe a little help please?

I don't fully understand your question(s).

Take them at face value.

[zendancer]

May 11, 2014 15:03:49 GMT -5 @empty said:

Desire seems to be there, hovering around the root of what it means to be us in this One.


1. What is Desire?

2. What is the relationship of desire with mind?

3. Where does desire originate?

4. What is the effect of desire?

5. What is the effect of desire-less-ness? 



I'm interested in every one's perspective on these questions?

1. I wanted a cup of lemon yogurt, so I got one out of the refrigerator.
2. This yogurt that I'm eating tastes just as good as I thought it would.
3. With the one who asked this question.
4. *slurp*
5. *slurp*

[silver]

May 11, 2014 15:03:49 GMT -5 @empty said:

Desire seems to be there, hovering around the root of what it means to be us in this One.


1. What is Desire?

2. What is the relationship of desire with mind?

3. Where does desire originate?

4. What is the effect of desire?

5. What is the effect of desire-less-ness? 



I'm interested in every one's perspective on these questions?

It/they sound like simple questions, but to me, they're very complicated and yet not hard to understand. 

Desire comes from being alive -- simple desires, that is.  'Desire' could be a true need or a luxury.

The effect of desire would be that it motivates.

Not having desire or 'desire-less'ness' is simply that one's desire(s) have abated for whatever reason(s) or a person no longer has a desire for no particular reason.

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May 11, 2014 16:16:22 GMT -5 silver said:

May 11, 2014 15:03:49 GMT -5 @empty said:

Desire seems to be there, hovering around the root of what it means to be us in this One.


1. What is Desire?

2. What is the relationship of desire with mind?

3. Where does desire originate?

4. What is the effect of desire?

5. What is the effect of desire-less-ness? 



I'm interested in every one's perspective on these questions?

It/they sound like simple questions, but to me, they're very complicated and yet not hard to understand. 

Desire comes from being alive -- simple desires, that is.  'Desire' could be a true need or a luxury.

The effect of desire would be that it motivates.

Not having desire or 'desire-less'ness' is simply that one's desire(s) have abated for whatever reason(s) or a person no longer has a desire for no particular reason.

Cool, to that last bit you have answered what desire-less-ness IS in your perspective, but what is the EFFECT of desire-less-ness? 

[silver]

May 11, 2014 16:33:41 GMT -5 @empty said:

May 11, 2014 16:16:22 GMT -5 silver said:

It/they sound like simple questions, but to me, they're very complicated and yet not hard to understand. 

Desire comes from being alive -- simple desires, that is.  'Desire' could be a true need or a luxury.

The effect of desire would be that it motivates.

Not having desire or 'desire-less'ness' is simply that one's desire(s) have abated for whatever reason(s) or a person no longer has a desire for no particular reason.

Cool, to that last bit you to have answered what desire-less-ness IS in your perspective, but what is the EFFECT of desire-less-ness? 

I guess that question sounds simple but is not.  *shrug*  I don't know what to say about it other than one no longer desires x, y or z. 

[Transcix]

1. What is Desire?

Desire is wanting something to complete one's self, as opposed to one's self already being complete in the first place.

2. What is the relationship of desire with mind?

Mind negotiates the perspective of who and what one is, to what extent the process of one's being is complete or incomplete, and how the process of one's complete being manifests.

3. Where does desire originate?

Desire originates from an innate predisposition of volition towards living, a natural bi-product of sentience.

4. What is the effect of desire?

The effect of desire is that one either desires various things that are mutually overlapping or outright mutually exclusive, resulting in inner and outer conflict and confusion, or that one properly aligns desire with intent in a single-pointed fashion so as to engage reality in a realistic way where one negotiates one's emotions, values and circumstances so as to end up seeking knowledge and understanding rather than blissful ignorance.

5. What is the effect of desire-less-ness? 

It's impossible to be free of desire, however once properly aligned desire becomes merely an either/or equation fixed in the "on" as opposed to "off" position in perfect alignment with one's intention; "perfection" in this regard implies impeccability whereby one constantly seeks full recapitulation of one's past so as to fully learn and gain from one's "mistakes". It has nothing to do with exclusively "being" for a painting by necessity requires a painter, when one's self is complete it remains a process the manifestation of which must be navigated in conventional circumstances, although if one lives ever peacefully in some remote temple it's easy to believe exclusively "being" is all there is.

[stardustpilgrim]

May 11, 2014 15:03:49 GMT -5 @empty said:

Desire seems to be there, hovering around the root of what it means to be us in this One.


1. What is Desire?

2. What is the relationship of desire with mind?

3. Where does desire originate?

4. What is the effect of desire?

5. What is the effect of desire-less-ness? 



I'm interested in every one's perspective on these questions?

Desire is indeed a central aspect of self.

1. Desire comes from the function of the emotional center, desire is emotional.

2. Mind is usually the servant of desire, mind's (as distorted ego/false self) job is to fulfill desire.

3. Desire originates in ego. Essence, our true self, is what we are born with, what is truly our self. Ego/personality/false self is what is acquired after birth, the contents of the centers (in the intellectual center, thoughts, in the emotional center, emotions, in the moving center, learned movements, walking, running, driving a car, skills from sports etc...), information stored in the neural network. We copy emotions from the people in our life mostly during the first six or so years of life, from parents, relatives and other primary care people. So, most of our emotions are not really our own, but are acquired from others, we are second-hand people.

4. We think we are rational people and that thought guides our lives. However, emotions, desires, chasing likes or avoiding dislikes, rule most of us.

5. If we can set aside these false acquired desires, then we can live through our true self, through what is really our own. Acquired desires usually push and pull us in many different directions, fight for control, there is little unity. In essence there is more a sense of wholeness, peace, unity, living from wish, not compulsion.

The purpose of interior practices using attention and awareness is to take the energy out of the structure of ego/personality/false self so that the energy will go in-to essence so we can live as we were born to.

sdp

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May 11, 2014 15:03:49 GMT -5 @empty said:

Desire seems to be there, hovering around the root of what it means to be us in this One.


1. What is Desire?

2. What is the relationship of desire with mind?

3. Where does desire originate?

4. What is the effect of desire?

5. What is the effect of desire-less-ness? 



I'm interested in every one's perspective on these questions?

What we truly are doesn't desire anything. 

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May 11, 2014 21:00:59 GMT -5 @rupa said:

May 11, 2014 15:03:49 GMT -5 @empty said:

Desire seems to be there, hovering around the root of what it means to be us in this One.


1. What is Desire?

2. What is the relationship of desire with mind?

3. Where does desire originate?

4. What is the effect of desire?

5. What is the effect of desire-less-ness? 



I'm interested in every one's perspective on these questions?

What we truly are doesn't desire anything. 

Is what you 'truly are' apart from everything else, or one with every aspect of it.

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May 11, 2014 17:57:21 GMT -5 Transcix said:

1. What is Desire?

Desire is wanting something to complete one's self, as opposed to one's self already being complete in the first place.

2. What is the relationship of desire with mind?

Mind negotiates the perspective of who and what one is, to what extent the process of one's being is complete or incomplete, and how the process of one's complete being manifests.

3. Where does desire originate?

Desire originates from an innate predisposition of volition towards living, a natural bi-product of sentience.

4. What is the effect of desire?

The effect of desire is that one either desires various things that are mutually overlapping or outright mutually exclusive, resulting in inner and outer conflict and confusion, or that one properly aligns desire with intent in a single-pointed fashion so as to engage reality in a realistic way where one negotiates one's emotions, values and circumstances so as to end up seeking knowledge and understanding rather than blissful ignorance.

5. What is the effect of desire-less-ness? 

It's impossible to be free of desire, however once properly aligned desire becomes merely an either/or equation fixed in the "on" as opposed to "off" position in perfect alignment with one's intention; "perfection" in this regard implies impeccability whereby one constantly seeks full recapitulation of one's past so as to fully learn and gain from one's "mistakes". It has nothing to do with exclusively "being" for a painting by necessity requires a painter, when one's self is complete it remains a process the manifestation of which must be navigated in conventional circumstances, although if one lives ever peacefully in some remote temple it's easy to believe exclusively "being" is all there is.

Does intention lead to desire, or does desire lead intention?


A better question:

A Man came from a grassy knoll, and fired a shot to the skull of a man named Jacob, who was killed, how did that killing affect the essential nature of the sniper and the Jacob?


Another question:

A flower blooms with a blemish on two petals, the blemish is on opposites sides of the flower, which half of the flower is perfect, and which is not?


One more question:

Two kids are laughing at a joke, the first child pokes the second in the eye, the second child gives the first a hug...they both laugh and laugh....what is the punchline of the joke?