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May 14, 2014 16:23:55 GMT -5
Post by laughter on May 14, 2014 16:23:55 GMT -5
Desire is only a poor reflection of what you really want. It is something given to you buy your own ego to keep you asleep, so that it can remain in control of your life. Hmmm....I here a lot of talk in spiritual circles about false this, false that, enemy ego this and that, imagined tormentors seeking to control, manipulate, or somehow obscure 'reality'. Seem like folks really want a boogie man to fight against  Yeah, what could possibly go to war with ego? Letting go of the false isn't done by stubborn, angry denial. |
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May 14, 2014 16:50:04 GMT -5
Post by silver on May 14, 2014 16:50:04 GMT -5
So, are you like disagreeing with Ishy? I don't get what you're saying. Re-read post ;-) yes ok but I still would deeply appreciate an example or two. |
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May 14, 2014 17:23:59 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on May 14, 2014 17:23:59 GMT -5
Go easy on him, he's got Stevie grooming him. But who is grooming Stevie? I'm never quite sure..  |
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May 14, 2014 17:31:26 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on May 14, 2014 17:31:26 GMT -5
yes ok but I still would deeply appreciate an example or two. I need you to be more specific please...an example or two of what exactly? |
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Desire
May 14, 2014 18:36:35 GMT -5
Post by Transcix on May 14, 2014 18:36:35 GMT -5
Does intention lead to desire, or does desire lead intention? A better question: A Man came from a grassy knoll, and fired a shot to the skull of a man named Jacob, who was killed, how did that killing affect Jacob's essential nature of the sniper and the Jacob? Another question: A flower blooms with a blemish on two petals, the blemish is on opposites sides of the flower, which half of the flower is perfect, and which is not? One more question: Two kids are laughing at a joke, the first child pokes the second in the eye, the second child gives the first a hug...they both laugh and laugh....what is the punchline of the joke? I really have no idea what you mean to say.. |
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May 14, 2014 19:11:59 GMT -5
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Post by topology on May 14, 2014 19:11:59 GMT -5
But who is grooming Stevie? I'm never quite sure.. I stopped grooming Stevie when he stopped trying to breach the fourth wall.... |
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May 14, 2014 19:26:11 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on May 14, 2014 19:26:11 GMT -5
Does intention lead to desire, or does desire lead intention? A better question: A Man came from a grassy knoll, and fired a shot to the skull of a man named Jacob, who was killed, how did that killing affect the essential nature of the sniper and the Jacob? Another question: A flower blooms with a blemish on two petals, the blemish is on opposites sides of the flower, which half of the flower is perfect, and which is not? One more question: Two kids are laughing at a joke, the first child pokes the second in the eye, the second child gives the first a hug...they both laugh and laugh....what is the punchline of the joke? what you mean to say.. Perfect As an aside, those are questions that I asked, not statements. I was asking something, not trying to say something. |
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May 14, 2014 19:32:03 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on May 14, 2014 19:32:03 GMT -5
I'm never quite sure.. I stopped grooming Stevie when he stopped trying to breach the fourth wall.... What kind of groomer are you? |
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May 14, 2014 19:35:24 GMT -5
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Post by topology on May 14, 2014 19:35:24 GMT -5
I really have no idea what you mean to say.. Perfect As an aside, those are questions that I asked, not statements. I was asking something, not trying to say something. Tranny, Stevie is not done interrogating you until you become totally baffled, befuddled and bewildered. :-) |
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May 14, 2014 19:37:31 GMT -5
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Post by topology on May 14, 2014 19:37:31 GMT -5
I stopped grooming Stevie when he stopped trying to breach the fourth wall.... What kind of groomer are you? There is no groomer, only grooming.  |
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Post by enigma on May 14, 2014 19:57:45 GMT -5
But who is grooming Stevie? I'm never quite sure.. Mr G??  |
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May 15, 2014 9:13:32 GMT -5
Post by Ishtahota on May 15, 2014 9:13:32 GMT -5
Hmmm....I here a lot of talk in spiritual circles about false this, false that, enemy ego this and that, imagined tormentors seeking to control, manipulate, or somehow obscure 'reality'. Seem like folks really want a boogie man to fight against Yeah, what could possibly go to war with ego? Letting go of the false isn't done by stubborn, angry denial. No one ever does the personal clearing work to settle their own inner conflict. Mystic rule number one applies,(as inside so also outside). We have to see our own true reflection. Our higher self makes the judgement and our sub-conscious carries out the verdict. This is why our lives always end up in drama and conflict. And this does not have to be. Ego is like an out of control child. We cannot live without it, but it might help to grow a spine and put a foot every so ofter and just say no to its urgings. See the truth that its urgings try to hide from us and those urgings will loose their grip on our lives. |
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May 15, 2014 12:54:13 GMT -5
Post by runstill on May 15, 2014 12:54:13 GMT -5
1. What is Desire? 2. What is the relationship of desire with mind? 3. Where does desire originate? 4. What is the effect of desire? 5. What is the effect of desire-less-ness? I'm interested in every one's perspective on these questions? 1. Lack2. Can't want what you don't think you have 3. (** skijump! **) 4. (** muttley snicker **)5. (** muttley snicker **)?The first reply was the best , desire arises from the sense/feeling of Lack , the belief in a individual separate person is the cause , there are no individual's but there is individuality... |
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Post by laughter on May 15, 2014 17:27:47 GMT -5
Yeah, what could possibly go to war with ego? Letting go of the false isn't done by stubborn, angry denial. No one ever does the personal clearing work to settle their own inner conflict. Mystic rule number one applies,(as inside so also outside). We have to see our own true reflection. Our higher self makes the judgement and our sub-conscious carries out the verdict. This is why our lives always end up in drama and conflict. And this does not have to be. Ego is like an out of control child. We cannot live without it, but it might help to grow a spine and put a foot every so ofter and just say no to its urgings. See the truth that its urgings try to hide from us and those urgings will loose their grip on our lives. Seeing the false as false and letting go of attachments that were based on the false is great advice. "Higher self" might be a useful concept to get the attention of someone who's completely unfamiliar with witnessing but it sets up a goal -- it dangles a carrot. Even a unitive "Self" is still a split between what that Self is and what it isn't. Reactive self-referential patterns, if seen for what they are, if witnessed, and treated gently, and simply allowed to fade, will fall away, but it seems to me that only ego can do battle with ego. Not that there's anything wrong with getting stern with oneself about bad habits, but it's not the same thing as recognizing a facet of mis-identification with appearances. |
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May 15, 2014 18:08:51 GMT -5
Post by enigma on May 15, 2014 18:08:51 GMT -5
1. Lack2. Can't want what you don't think you have 3. (** skijump! **) 4. (** muttley snicker **)5. (** muttley snicker **)?The first reply was the best , desire arises from the sense/feeling of Lack , the belief in a individual separate person is the cause , there are no individual's but there is individuality... Most often that seems to be the case, though not always. If you're sitting in your house at dusk and you see a bright red-orange light at the window which you take to be either a UFO invasion or a rather spectacular sunset. Do you get up to look? Whether it's a curiosity about the invasion or an interest in experiencing the sunset, would you really call it based on a sense of lack? |
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