Desire

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May 11, 2014 21:00:59 GMT -5 @rupa said:

May 11, 2014 15:03:49 GMT -5 @empty said:

Desire seems to be there, hovering around the root of what it means to be us in this One.


1. What is Desire?

2. What is the relationship of desire with mind?

3. Where does desire originate?

4. What is the effect of desire?

5. What is the effect of desire-less-ness? 



I'm interested in every one's perspective on these questions?

What we truly are doesn't desire anything. 

I won't prematurely disagree, as I haven't found out who I "truly"am. But if what I am in reality is without desire, why then do desires arise at all? If my true state is desireless, then my state of desiring must perforce be false. How does a false state arise from a true one? You can't gather figs from thistles.

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May 11, 2014 23:25:44 GMT -5 @empty said:

May 11, 2014 21:00:59 GMT -5 @rupa said:

What we truly are doesn't desire anything. 

Is what you 'truly are' apart from everything else, or one with every aspect of it.

There is only what we truly are. It's freedom. That's why we know it as apart from everything and also know it as one with everything.  There is only "knowing".

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May 12, 2014 7:18:34 GMT -5 @djembebum said:

May 11, 2014 21:00:59 GMT -5 @rupa said:

What we truly are doesn't desire anything. 

I won't prematurely disagree, as I haven't found out who I "truly"am. But if what I am in reality is without desire, why then do desires arise at all? If my true state is desireless, then my state of desiring must perforce be false. How does a false state arise from a true one? You can't gather figs from thistles.

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May 12, 2014 11:25:02 GMT -5 @rupa said:

May 11, 2014 23:25:44 GMT -5 @empty said:

Is what you 'truly are' apart from everything else, or one with every aspect of it.

There is only what we truly are. It's freedom. That's why we know it as apart from everything and also know it as one with everything.  There is only "knowing".

Wait...is what we 'truly are' freedom, or knowing? :-)

Also, I don 't get your connection between Desire not being a part of what 'we truly are', and what we truly are being freedom or knowing or both, and: " That's why we know it as apart from everything and also know it as one with everything."

lol...seems like a pretty shoddy ill-defined theorem to me...kinda wishy washy, a little insane.


A quick question:

Whats the taste of a pickle while on the moon without a tongue?










Your first response is likely the best theory of everything ;-) throw everything else away.

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May 12, 2014 12:00:37 GMT -5 @empty said:

May 12, 2014 11:25:02 GMT -5 @rupa said:

There is only what we truly are. It's freedom. That's why we know it as apart from everything and also know it as one with everything.  There is only "knowing".

Wait...is what we 'truly are' freedom, or knowing? :-)

Also, I don 't get you connection between Desire not being a part of what 'we truly are', and what we truly are being freedom or knowing or both, and: " That's why we know it as apart from everything and also know it as one with everything."

lol...seems like a pretty shoddy ill-defined theorem to me...kinda wishy washy, a little insane.


A quick question:

What the taste of a pickle while on the moon without a tongue?



Your first response is likely the best theory of everything ;-)

Despite pretending that you don't "know' what you truly are, the only thing that you do know about reality is the "knowing" of it.
What I and most of the human population do however is skip over the knowing of reality and jump to the descriptions or thoughts 'about' reality. Which becomes the duality of the universe. Of a subject and objects.
You like quick questions so here's one for you.  What is duality?

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May 12, 2014 12:00:37 GMT -5 @empty said:

May 12, 2014 11:25:02 GMT -5 @rupa said:

There is only what we truly are. It's freedom. That's why we know it as apart from everything and also know it as one with everything.  There is only "knowing".

Wait...is what we 'truly are' freedom, or knowing? :-)

Also, I don 't get your connection between Desire not being a part of what 'we truly are', and what we truly are being freedom or knowing or both, and: " That's why we know it as apart from everything and also know it as one with everything."

lol...seems like a pretty shoddy ill-defined theorem to me...kinda wishy washy, a little insane.


A quick question:

Whats the taste of a pickle while on the moon without a tongue?





Your first response is likely the best theory of everything ;-) throw everything else away.

Oh, I hope you don't mind if I answer it. 

Since I have the memory of what a pickle tastes like, I don't really need my tongue - on the moon - LoL.  I can see it with my eyes, and I remember what a sweet pickle looks like and what a dill pickle looks like, so it's not that hard to figure...even on the moon..that's made of green cheese, if you like.

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May 12, 2014 12:20:04 GMT -5 silver said:

May 12, 2014 12:00:37 GMT -5 @empty said:

Wait...is what we 'truly are' freedom, or knowing? :-)

Also, I don 't get your connection between Desire not being a part of what 'we truly are', and what we truly are being freedom or knowing or both, and: " That's why we know it as apart from everything and also know it as one with everything."

lol...seems like a pretty shoddy ill-defined theorem to me...kinda wishy washy, a little insane.


A quick question:

Whats the taste of a pickle while on the moon without a tongue?





Your first response is likely the best theory of everything ;-) throw everything else away.

Oh, I hope you don't mind if I answer it. 

Since I have the memory of what a pickle tastes like, I don't really need my tongue - on the moon - LoL.  I can see it with my eyes, and I remember what a sweet pickle looks like and what a dill pickle looks like, so it's not that hard to figure...even on the moon..that's made of green cheese, if you like.

What's the taste of a pickle while on the moon without ever having a tongue?

Also, what does the moonlight taste like?

[silver]

May 12, 2014 12:56:43 GMT -5 @empty said:

May 12, 2014 12:20:04 GMT -5 silver said:

Oh, I hope you don't mind if I answer it. 

Since I have the memory of what a pickle tastes like, I don't really need my tongue - on the moon - LoL.  I can see it with my eyes, and I remember what a sweet pickle looks like and what a dill pickle looks like, so it's not that hard to figure...even on the moon..that's made of green cheese, if you like.

What's the taste of a pickle while on the moon without ever having a tongue?

Also, what does the moonlight taste like?

Well, if I really wanted to 'know' or experience what a pickle tastes like, I very well may have to resort to using my imagination.

Moonlight?  same thing.


I hope you're going somewhere with all these pickles - on the moon!  *snicker*

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May 12, 2014 12:56:43 GMT -5 @empty said:

May 12, 2014 12:20:04 GMT -5 silver said:

Oh, I hope you don't mind if I answer it. 

Since I have the memory of what a pickle tastes like, I don't really need my tongue - on the moon - LoL.  I can see it with my eyes, and I remember what a sweet pickle looks like and what a dill pickle looks like, so it's not that hard to figure...even on the moon..that's made of green cheese, if you like.

What's the taste of a pickle while on the moon without ever having a tongue?

Also, what does the moonlight taste like?

snap out of it steve... ;-)

the moon has no atmosphere, and what moran would smuggle a pickle in his spacesuit just to have a snack on the moon?

and the moon has no light of its own, it's just a rock that reflects the light of the sun

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May 12, 2014 13:17:25 GMT -5 @popee said:

May 12, 2014 12:56:43 GMT -5 @empty said:

What's the taste of a pickle while on the moon without ever having a tongue?

Also, what does the moonlight taste like?

snap out of it steve... ;-)

the moon has no atmosphere, and what moran would smuggle a pickle in his spacesuit just to have a snack on the moon?

and the moon has no light of its own, it's just a rock that reflects the light of the sun

what's that rock thinking in you avatar pic?

;-)

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May 12, 2014 13:12:57 GMT -5 silver said:

May 12, 2014 12:56:43 GMT -5 @empty said:

What's the taste of a pickle while on the moon without ever having a tongue?

Also, what does the moonlight taste like?

Well, if I really wanted to 'know' or experience what a pickle tastes like, I very well may have to resort to using my imagination.

Moonlight?  same thing.


I hope you're going somewhere with all these pickles - on the moon!  *snicker*

haha....I think you might have had the right answer, for a quick second, just before you came up with the one you wrote down

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May 12, 2014 13:20:50 GMT -5 @empty said:

May 12, 2014 13:17:25 GMT -5 @popee said:

snap out of it steve... ;-)

the moon has no atmosphere, and what moran would smuggle a pickle in his spacesuit just to have a snack on the moon?

and the moon has no light of its own, it's just a rock that reflects the light of the sun

what's that rock thinking in you avatar pic?

;-)

thinking was a pretty cool invention, I'd say (not the rock, he can't talk, cuz its a rock n all)

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May 12, 2014 13:25:56 GMT -5 @popee said:

May 12, 2014 13:20:50 GMT -5 @empty said:

what's that rock thinking in you avatar pic?

;-)

thinking was a pretty cool invention, I'd say (not the rock, he can't talk, cuz its a rock n all)

hehehehe

Who invented thinking, before thought?

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May 12, 2014 13:31:05 GMT -5 @empty said:

May 12, 2014 13:25:56 GMT -5 @popee said:

thinking was a pretty cool invention, I'd say (not the rock, he can't talk, cuz its a rock n all)

hehehehe

Who invented thinking, before thought?

isn't that an existential blah blah..? of what use are before and after questions? to answer it, I'd have to think about it, then come up with some idea .. and if I really went off the tracks, I might even believe my conclusion...

so here/now there is either thinking, or not. and if not, nothing gets said. ;-)

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May 12, 2014 13:56:54 GMT -5 @popee said:

May 12, 2014 13:31:05 GMT -5 @empty said:

hehehehe

Who invented thinking, before thought?

isn't that an existential blah blah..? of what use are before and after questions? to answer it, I'd have to think about it, then come up with some idea .. and if I really went off the tracks, I might even believe my conclusion...

so here/now there is either thinking, or not. and if not, nothing gets said. ;-)

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