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Post by Reefs on May 3, 2013 3:34:57 GMT -5
Dear Dude/Dudette, She mentioned it before? I hear that the first time. As you say, there are some folks on spiritual discussion boards one would envision as drooling on their keyboards. Mrs Figs seems to be the exact opposite. Or is 'heightened interest in online debates' a neurological disorder now?  Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize Maybe in her case it's 'therapy'. Dear Dude/Dudette, I think it was DSM-IV that wanted to list or already listed 'disobeying ones parents' as a mental disorder. Maybe DSM-V has internet debates in it now.  Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2013 8:49:03 GMT -5
hahaha, what is going on here? The thread has gone way off topic. No one has read or listened to Vernon Howard? All the teachers are pointing to one thing only (as far I know) and that is to be yourself, your real self. Not role playing not this or that & that is why the direct path is effective. Mooji, adyashanti, ramana even tolle, they all point to it and that's what its about, isn't it? Finding the truth. Right. If I tell you to be yourself right now, do you say "hold on a minute, I need to find something first"? To me that sounds like "Just act natural."  |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2013 9:35:12 GMT -5
The legal bit is muy importante when you have a cosmopolitan life style.  Hehe..."Cosmopolitan Lifestyle" hey? I don't even know what that is.  ...it's so much more than just seeing a kid looking cute and cuddly though and taking some kind of 'ownership' of him/her...it's about that unique bond that exists and is growing ever stronger between two who share and understand each other intimately. Not sure if you're holding back here dude, but your approach to relationships in general, sounds pretty sterile. |
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Post by silver on May 3, 2013 10:06:50 GMT -5
The legal bit is muy importante when you have a cosmopolitan life style. Hehe..."Cosmopolitan Lifestyle" hey? I don't even know what that is. ...it's so much more than just seeing a kid looking cute and cuddly though and taking some kind of 'ownership' of him/her...it's about that unique bond that exists and is growing ever stronger between two who share and understand each other intimately. Not sure if you're holding back here dude, but your approach to relationships in general, sounds pretty sterile. *knowing chuckle* I even googled 'cosmopolitan'! I even have read Cosmo magazine - not the same thing, am sure of it. Heh. In essence, cosmopolitan for his purposes would be that he's a man of the world - a worldly person....when in Rome comes to mind. TGBH, you're ok by me on all scores. |
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Post by enigma on May 3, 2013 10:12:11 GMT -5
Not sure if you're holding back here dude, but your approach to relationships in general, sounds pretty sterile. That's the picture I saw you painting with your 'heart bursting' question. It doesn't matter how he responded, you were gonna keep painting your picture.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2013 10:28:40 GMT -5
Okay. I don't know what you 'have' there, so then you are just 'buying in' instead of ' easily buying in'. Does that sound betterer? It's an interesting subject and believe me, in the course of all this, that question of 'buying in' or not has been looked at deeply. What I've come to is this; There's a point where there is far more resistance in a refusal to acknowledge what is appearing than to simply acknowledge that yes, something is presently awry with the body. It's like a guy who loses his hair who initially refuses to 'buy into' the idea of male pattern baldness. At what point does he just acknowledge that he no longer has any hair on head and is in fact "bald"? Yeah..well, that's how it's been. It's more of an observation on my part than a future prognosis I'm tied into though. There's been a real letting go in terms of giving much thought to the future. <speculation> How it happened is irrelevant because decline is only a question of resistance (i.e. focus). However, when your focus goes elsewhere, the things you've focused on before and now lack your focus tend to shift into the background and slowly disappear. A-H used to talk about it by taking abandoned houses as an example. As long as someone lives there it seems to stay intact even if nothing gets repaired but when it is abandoned and no one focuses on it anymore it starts to fall apart. Focus is holding things in shape. Same with the body. A-H explained Jerry's case that way. He felt he has had a rich life and was now kinda 'done' from broader perspective (not the personal/ego perspective) and the focus went elsewhere and his body started to decline. From his personal perspective it looked like something gone horribly wrong since he was planning to live until 140 and croak with Esther together. That's why I asked about your brother. His 'non-departure' seemed to have intensified your focus on 'the other side' so there was less focus on 'this side' to keep things in shape since that event. </speculation> Yup. Have pondered something similar myself. I will also add; Most of us come to regard physical decline as an obvious negative. I'd be hard pressed these days to even muster up a strong sense of 'wanting' anything to be different than it is....I would have heard someone say such a thing in the past and thought they were crazy...or outright lying, in deep denial. But, These circumstances have facilitated a letting go that has provided experiential understanding of a deeper kind of freedom. ..Can't say enough about "the gift" of experiencing something that at one point I would have found intolerable, to now find it not merely 'tolerable' but actually worthy of embracing. It really flips the lid on the whole good vs. bad things that happen to us. |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2013 10:30:26 GMT -5
Not sure if you're holding back here dude, but your approach to relationships in general, sounds pretty sterile. That's the picture I saw you painting with your 'heart bursting' question. It doesn't matter how he responded, you were gonna keep painting your picture. NOT true. I was genuinely rootin' for a little sharing of emotion from Big blue Hole. |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2013 10:34:06 GMT -5
*knowing chuckle* I even googled 'cosmopolitan'! Hehe...me too.  I'm none the wiser.  Yup..used to read that too...It was all about sex, sex and more sex. Doya thinks Big Blue Hole might be trying to share something "personal"? yes, In all seriousness, that's my guess too. Not quite as spicy though.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2013 10:35:11 GMT -5
Okay. I don't know what you 'have' there, so then you are just 'buying in' instead of ' easily buying in'. Does that sound betterer? It's an interesting subject and believe me, in the course of all this, that question of 'buying in' or not has been looked at deeply. What I've come to is this; There's a point where there is far more resistance in a refusal to acknowledge what is appearing than to simply acknowledge that yes, something is presently awry with the body. It's like a guy who loses his hair who initially refuses to 'buy into' the idea of male pattern baldness. At what point does he just acknowledge that he no longer has any hair on head and is in fact "bald"? Yeah..well, that's how it's been. It's more of an observation on my part than a future prognosis I'm tied into though. There's been a real letting go in terms of giving much thought to the future. Yup. Have pondered something similar myself. I will also add; Most of us come to regard physical decline as an obvious negative. I'd be hard pressed these days to even muster up a strong sense of 'wanting' anything to be different than it is....I would have heard someone say such a thing in the past and thought they were crazy...or outright lying, in deep denial. But, These circumstances have facilitated a letting go that has provided experiential understanding of a deeper kind of freedom. ..Can't say enough about "the gift" of experiencing something that at one point I would have found intolerable, to now find it not merely 'tolerable' but actually worthy of embracing. It really flips the lid on the whole good vs. bad things that happen to us. |
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Post by Beingist on May 3, 2013 10:50:36 GMT -5
But, These circumstances have facilitated a letting go that has provided experiential understanding of a deeper kind of freedom. ..Can't say enough about "the gift" of experiencing something that at one point I would have found intolerable, to now find it not merely 'tolerable' but actually worthy of embracing. It really flips the lid on the whole good vs. bad things that happen to us. Indeed, I can rez greatly with this, though it doesn't 'flip the lid' on good/bad for me, but rather negates the good/bad dichotomy entirely. |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2013 11:27:22 GMT -5
But, These circumstances have facilitated a letting go that has provided experiential understanding of a deeper kind of freedom. ..Can't say enough about "the gift" of experiencing something that at one point I would have found intolerable, to now find it not merely 'tolerable' but actually worthy of embracing. It really flips the lid on the whole good vs. bad things that happen to us. Indeed, I can rez greatly with this, though it doesn't 'flip the lid' on good/bad for me, but rather negates the good/bad dichotomy entirely.well said.  |
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Post by Reefs on May 3, 2013 11:43:42 GMT -5
The legal bit is muy importante when you have a cosmopolitan life style. Hehe..."Cosmopolitan Lifestyle" hey? I don't even know what that is. ...it's so much more than just seeing a kid looking cute and cuddly though and taking some kind of 'ownership' of him/her...it's about that unique bond that exists and is growing ever stronger between two who share and understand each other intimately.Not sure if you're holding back here dude, but your approach to relationships in general, sounds pretty sterile. Dear Dude/Dudette, cosmopolitan = familiar with and at ease in many different countries and cultures, a person who has lived in and knows about many different parts of the world The part in red is a wild giraffe party. Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize |
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Post by Reefs on May 3, 2013 11:48:56 GMT -5
Not sure if you're holding back here dude, but your approach to relationships in general, sounds pretty sterile. That's the picture I saw you painting with your 'heart bursting' question. It doesn't matter how he responded, you were gonna keep painting your picture. Dear Dude/Dudette, Yeah, 'heart bursting' and 'unique bonds growing stronger' sounds mucho invested. Probably just the tip of a conceptual iceberg. Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize |
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Post by Reefs on May 3, 2013 11:51:56 GMT -5
Okay. I don't know what you 'have' there, so then you are just 'buying in' instead of ' easily buying in'. Does that sound betterer? It's an interesting subject and believe me, in the course of all this, that question of 'buying in' or not has been looked at deeply. What I've come to is this; There's a point where there is far more resistance in a refusal to acknowledge what is appearing than to simply acknowledge that yes, something is presently awry with the body. It's like a guy who loses his hair who initially refuses to 'buy into' the idea of male pattern baldness. At what point does he just acknowledge that he no longer has any hair on head and is in fact "bald"? Yeah..well, that's how it's been. It's more of an observation on my part than a future prognosis I'm tied into though. There's been a real letting go in terms of giving much thought to the future. <speculation> How it happened is irrelevant because decline is only a question of resistance (i.e. focus). However, when your focus goes elsewhere, the things you've focused on before and now lack your focus tend to shift into the background and slowly disappear. A-H used to talk about it by taking abandoned houses as an example. As long as someone lives there it seems to stay intact even if nothing gets repaired but when it is abandoned and no one focuses on it anymore it starts to fall apart. Focus is holding things in shape. Same with the body. A-H explained Jerry's case that way. He felt he has had a rich life and was now kinda 'done' from broader perspective (not the personal/ego perspective) and the focus went elsewhere and his body started to decline. From his personal perspective it looked like something gone horribly wrong since he was planning to live until 140 and croak with Esther together. That's why I asked about your brother. His 'non-departure' seemed to have intensified your focus on 'the other side' so there was less focus on 'this side' to keep things in shape since that event. </speculation> Yup. Have pondered something similar myself. I will also add; Most of us come to regard physical decline as an obvious negative. I'd be hard pressed these days to even muster up a strong sense of 'wanting' anything to be different than it is....I would have heard someone say such a thing in the past and thought they were crazy...or outright lying, in deep denial. But, These circumstances have facilitated a letting go that has provided experiential understanding of a deeper kind of freedom. ..Can't say enough about "the gift" of experiencing something that at one point I would have found intolerable, to now find it not merely 'tolerable' but actually worthy of embracing. It really flips the lid on the whole good vs. bad things that happen to us. Dear Dude/Dudette, I remember Abe saying that aging is natural, decline not. Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize |
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Post by Reefs on May 3, 2013 12:00:23 GMT -5
That's the picture I saw you painting with your 'heart bursting' question. It doesn't matter how he responded, you were gonna keep painting your picture. NOT true. I was genuinely rootin' for a little sharing of emotion from Big blue Hole. Dear Dude/Dudette, There's not much to say, really. Simply because there isn't actually an 'approach' (i.e. conceptual guideline) to relationships at work. The words you used sound very romantic and touchy feely and new agey. You seem to entertain very complex concepts about relationships, especially 'parent' - 'child' relationships. Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize |
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