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Post by laughter on Mar 9, 2015 20:07:29 GMT -5
Honestly, i say: "i don't know, and i'm trying to keep it that way".. which is taken differently by different perspectives, and i enjoy the interactions that follow.. situation reveals the appropriate tone and body language, and the openness to explore what 'is' happening reveals itself much more than some of the forum ND advocates care to admit.. too often, spirituality and self-realization is measured by an experiencer's ability to say what the dominant 'belivers' want to hear, and the ability to play their game.. What do you say if a friend says "Hi Bob, what have you been up to?" ... nah. Too easy.
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Post by tzujanli on Mar 9, 2015 20:24:59 GMT -5
Honestly, i say: "i don't know, and i'm trying to keep it that way".. which is taken differently by different perspectives, and i enjoy the interactions that follow.. situation reveals the appropriate tone and body language, and the openness to explore what 'is' happening reveals itself much more than some of the forum ND advocates care to admit.. too often, spirituality and self-realization is measured by an experiencer's ability to say what the dominant 'belivers' want to hear, and the ability to play their game.. What do you say if a friend says "Hi Bob, what have you been up to?" I say: "Another day in paradise, how 'bout you?".. i create opportunity for dialogue, if the interest is specific it will reveal itself, and.. if the there is interest in the happening, that is revealed, too.. opportunity..
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Post by tzujanli on Mar 9, 2015 20:32:02 GMT -5
He means something, you mean something else. Same point. Events are imagined. Because what you think are events are what you imagine them to be, does not impose the same misunderstanding on others..
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Mar 9, 2015 21:06:04 GMT -5
Happening is the totality of what is 'happening'.. if you 'think' it seems limited to "an objective physical event", that's just 'your' beliefs filtering the awareness of what's happening.. When you meet your bro on the street, and he asks 'Hey dude, what's happening?', do you say 'The totality of what is happening', or do you fill him in on the latest objective physical events in your life? I like that, I never know what to say. from now on it'll be: The totality of what is, is happening. I like it, thanks. ......really ..........really...........
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Post by runstill on Mar 9, 2015 23:46:27 GMT -5
When you meet your bro on the street, and he asks 'Hey dude, what's happening?', do you say 'The totality of what is happening', or do you fill him in on the latest objective physical events in your life? I like that, I never know what to say. from now on it'll be: The totality of what is, is happening. I like it, thanks. ......really ..........really........... I know E was being a little sarcastic, but that is a great response, anyone have another ?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2015 3:28:22 GMT -5
Fair enough... Cool dream. Did you walk out into the big garden, or did it assemble itself around you and the door that had been opened couldn't be seen anymore? It was more like the latter. I don't remember well about the door (if it was instantly left behind or disappeared) but it was like the scene 'opened' rather than 'I walked out into it'. Yeah, cool, cool. Have you tried opening the same door in your house that you opened in the dream house and see whether there is a fully immersive garden on the other side of that one as well?
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Post by zin on Mar 10, 2015 5:53:31 GMT -5
It was more like the latter. I don't remember well about the door (if it was instantly left behind or disappeared) but it was like the scene 'opened' rather than 'I walked out into it'. Yeah, cool, cool. Have you tried opening the same door in your house that you opened in the dream house and see whether there is a fully immersive garden on the other side of that one as well? No, I haven't.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2015 9:39:10 GMT -5
What do you say if a friend says "Hi Bob, what have you been up to?" ... nah. Too easy. does not apply in this case anyhoo
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2015 9:42:51 GMT -5
I like that, I never know what to say. from now on it'll be: The totality of what is, is happening. I like it, thanks. ......really ..........really........... I know E was being a little sarcastic, but that is a great response, anyone have another ? I usually say 'not much' with a smile and ask 'what's happening with you?' Not really interested in going philosophical and teacher-mode.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2015 22:14:52 GMT -5
I know E was being a little sarcastic, but that is a great response, anyone have another ? I usually say 'not much' with a smile and ask 'what's happening with you?' Not really interested in going philosophical and teacher-mode. Hi max, is it really a loss of interest in going philosophical and teacher-mode on them? Or is it a concession to the person who isn't really interested in your psychosis? I'm just asking that because that's the way I feel sometimes, caught between two realities.
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Post by onehandclapping on Mar 11, 2015 0:59:23 GMT -5
I like that, I never know what to say. from now on it'll be: The totality of what is, is happening. I like it, thanks. ......really ..........really........... I know E was being a little sarcastic, but that is a great response, anyone have another ? Some will give quick, conditioned responses; some will bend to their ego's want to be seen in a certain light by the questioner and thus respond with a perceived (by their mind as) clear statement; and others will just respond in the moment free of all of that. The great response IMO is the one that is free of ego and open to whatever comes into existence in the moment..... The good news is that even if you don't give a great response, you still gave the perfect one! ;-)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2015 11:36:32 GMT -5
I usually say 'not much' with a smile and ask 'what's happening with you?' Not really interested in going philosophical and teacher-mode. Hi max, is it really a loss of interest in going philosophical and teacher-mode on them? Or is it a concession to the person who isn't really interested in your psychosis? I'm just asking that because that's the way I feel sometimes, caught between two realities. I suppose it's more of a test to see what sort of interest is actually there.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2015 12:07:57 GMT -5
Hi max, is it really a loss of interest in going philosophical and teacher-mode on them? Or is it a concession to the person who isn't really interested in your psychosis? I'm just asking that because that's the way I feel sometimes, caught between two realities. I suppose it's more of a test to see what sort of interest is actually there. Yeah, if someone asks me I will talk about it, but if not, I don't push it on them.
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Post by laughter on Mar 18, 2015 14:45:26 GMT -5
I suppose it's more of a test to see what sort of interest is actually there. Yeah, if someone asks me I will talk about it, but if not, I don't push it on them. What I rezz with are peeps who are obviously very naturally curious about reality, and that can become clear in a number of different ways, the primary one being that they're seeking open eye contact. It's really really easy to interject existential ideas into a casual conversation. ... "appearances are deceptive" is a very powerful generalized meme. It's actually easier to do with strangers because there's no baggage of an ongoing relationship that might get screwed up.
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Post by silver on Jul 31, 2015 14:46:22 GMT -5
I don't figure a thing E. There just isn't an I to be found except for the one in the uniform, in charge of keeping castles made of sand standing. There is no more I AM than I AM NOT. Staying with the I AM is like pissing in the wind, something to do when it looks like it should be done and it all gets scattered around. How can it be? Dunno the why's and how's, the same as all of life I guess, perhaps energy gloriously dancing but thoroughly impersonal (?) but that wouldn't mean a darn thing either. There's a lot of uncomfortable effort to hold on to and make believe in the story that I exist, there is typing this message doing it's thing, there's seeing it doing it's thing, there is no I there that needs to be propped up or held onto or maybe it's just out to lunch. BTW the camels are a little bit like giraffes, but with shorter necks. What I reckon: vanitas vanitatum et omnis vanitas The problem is that far too much thought has gone into it. Even the fly knows of it's existence. I like both responses...good ol' practical frog, and poet vacant - or is it vacant poet?
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