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Post by laughter on Mar 1, 2015 17:30:21 GMT -5
It's like walking through a "mindfield" around here. Yes, it's a lot like that. Without some interest in the type of ordinance used, there may be no reason to walk through it at all. The occasional showers of blood and guts from the sky are proof of the inseparability of body and mind.
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Post by laughter on Mar 1, 2015 17:31:22 GMT -5
And the idea that making you confused isn't making you wrong was a major ordinance malfunction. That's when it's best to just throw rocks at it from a distance rather than try to diffuse it. Hey! Wow! What a great idea! Thanks!
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Post by laughter on Mar 1, 2015 17:37:05 GMT -5
The simple fact is that you disagree with me. That's all there is. That evolved into a story about how I may be tying Gopal up in knots by giving him an anchor instead of a rope and you tried to tell him I'm not worth the time of day but he wouldn't listen but come to think of it Gopal is really trying to save me. I call that convoluted. The reason for the story is to make me sound worthless, or even harmful, while making you sound wise and helpful. I'm just trying to help gopal out. ...........because I've been there......... So in your mind you actually are wise and helpful and the story has nothing to do with self image?
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Post by laughter on Mar 1, 2015 17:38:46 GMT -5
yeah, there's still a few minor points of contention regarding volition and separation to be sorted out... Hey, we should have discussions about that here sometime. Procrastinator!
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Post by laughter on Mar 1, 2015 17:40:56 GMT -5
Hey, we should have discussions about that here sometime. yeah, sounds good. and the folks that aren't 99% closed minded might actually hear what you're saying.
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Post by laughter on Mar 1, 2015 17:44:59 GMT -5
No apology necessary! ... in both Spanish and French the literal translation of "you're welcome" into English is "of nothing". All gratitude is of the void, and it is possible to recognize the void in all things. Humble much? ..It is a great poem and I didn't make much fanfare only because 1-I was in a 'looking at horizons and seriously thinking' mood, and 2-I guessed you'd say something like "awww, so sweet!" if I did so (ps. ok, you may still be right about the void thing)(ps2. a bow to all the poets here..) Thanks for the kind words Zindy.
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Post by laughter on Mar 1, 2015 17:47:17 GMT -5
how? By direct seeing? by directly seeing happy and followed by unhappy? But the problem is you can't know whether you were happy an hour ago,Isn't it?you can't know whether you were unhappy an ago,Isn't it? you can't even know whether you were on earth an hour ago,Isn't it? You might have been in Mars an hour ago, How could you know? The true face of the frog revealed at last!
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Mar 1, 2015 19:29:42 GMT -5
I'm just trying to help gopal out. ...........because I've been there......... So in your mind you actually are wise and helpful and the story has nothing to do with self image? I just meant I've dealt with enigma a lot. I don't know what you mean, so I can't comment on it.
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Post by laughter on Mar 1, 2015 19:43:20 GMT -5
So in your mind you actually are wise and helpful and the story has nothing to do with self image? I just meant I've dealt with enigma a lot. I don't know what you mean, so I can't comment on it. So what about what I wrote, specifically, don't you understand? You wrote yourself that you were trying to be helpful: I'm just trying to help gopal out. ... and that this was based on your experience: ...........because I've been there......... ... in other words, you were trying to help gopal with the wisdom of your experience. Do I have that much wrong so far? If so, what about it is wrong? Or, do I have that much right?
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Post by someNOTHING! on Mar 1, 2015 22:31:01 GMT -5
Thanks SDP. I assumed we were all past that and that I was just re-stating something rather obvious. I was always the peacemaker in (elementary) school. Somehow I could invariably see both P'sOV, and I could explain A to B and B to A. Now, I try to write, not for myself, but to write also to say what I can hear the other person reading. I hope that makes sense . ...........I like to 'see' (here) when somebody misunderstands what somebody else said........probably too much of the time...... ............. Anyway, I always stand to be corrected, if I am wrong....... (Tzu?) Yes, me too, for the most part. It's part of my day-to-day necessary bag of tricks for carrying on the magical mystery tour known as international education. You can't imagine the types of intercultural biases and misundertandings that can occur. It's great when you can be aware of the many pieces of the puzzle being played out, coming together in their own time, but very often it's just a matter of observing, seeing what happens next in order to get a larger/clearer perspective. But then again, sometimes you just have to boll them over, state the objective and put fire to their feet!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 22:48:37 GMT -5
Actually in my case, it has been the case many years but i hadn't noticed that, Once I was walking besides the big building, it suddenly strikes me, and then immediately recalling happens and then everything was fit exactly. So Is it my realization has happened based on empirical evidence? Second,How about your realization? how is it possible for you without having happy/unhappy experience? I've had lots of happy and unhappy experiences. Yeah, this is the only way that conclusion can be made, but you disagree with me that we can't know what has happened an hour ago, If so, how could you know you were happy or unhappy an hour ago? If not how could you conclude?
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Post by someNOTHING! on Mar 1, 2015 22:49:42 GMT -5
It's like walking through a "mindfield" around here. Yes, it's a lot like that. Without some interest in the type of ordinance used, there may be no reason to walk through it at all. It IS interesting in that, for the most part, it is knit so finely into the very fabric of day-to-day activity. As it goes unnoticed it does appear to add up, accumulating into and giving weight to anything used in the struggle to define the truth of consensual reality. From the perspective of that "level of reality" (there, I said it), being able to brush it off with hardly a breath seems inhuman, . To that I would say, realize the potential of being a human being. Go for it. Find Truth. Cut and be cut until...
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Post by someNOTHING! on Mar 1, 2015 22:54:39 GMT -5
It's like walking through a "mindfield" around here. yeah, there's still a few minor points of contention regarding volition and separation to be sorted out... As long as the certainty of volition and separation exists in their construct, so will the gravity of their thoughts. That's why they're here. Dream on...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 23:00:23 GMT -5
how? By direct seeing? by directly seeing happy and followed by unhappy? But the problem is you can't know whether you were happy an hour ago,Isn't it?you can't know whether you were unhappy an ago,Isn't it? you can't even know whether you were on earth an hour ago,Isn't it? You might have been in Mars an hour ago, How could you know? Yeah, Enigma believes this way, He says we can't know whether we were in mars or earth an hour ago can't be known
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Post by someNOTHING! on Mar 1, 2015 23:01:32 GMT -5
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