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Post by stardustpilgrim on Aug 15, 2024 8:28:26 GMT -5
My former wife remembered being potty trained, I believe her. Our being extends to other levels of reality, our being is not contained in this one life, consciousness in not contained within the physical, does not even originate from the physical. I remember in first grade learning to write, learning what a period is. I remember making my periods, huge, as big as a letter. I wanted to make sure my teacher knew I had ended my sentence. We can write in print, or cursive. In 7th grade I learned to type. There's many different ways of holding information. Right now I'm holding a copy of the post above, in the I don't even remember what it's called, the computer one-bucket short term memory. I'll post it at the appropriate spot. But we have a body of a finer vibratory level, in Yogacara Buddhism it's called the alayavijnana, the storehouse (body). There are hundreds of stories of small children remembering their last life. Some of these have been verified, the kid having enough memories, for parents to actually go and find the family of the recently deceased previous incarnation, details confirmed. So mind extends further than the physical brain. The brain is like a receiver. The computer I'm using now use WiFi, my base is about six feet away, but there is no cat 5 cable joining the two, the signal is going through the air, like broadcast TV of old. Yes, it's still used, I have an inside antenna that's about 6" x 9", I can use it if my cable goes out. It's good for over 200 miles, so I can get all the local broadcast stations, about 40 channels, because every major TV station has "sub-stations". But the point is the programming doesn't originate inside my own TV, it originates elsewhere. Likewise, all my 'programming' doesn't originate with my own brain. It's possible for the brain to connect with the alayavijnana, and even more subtle levels. So, all that gets me to yes, we can have memories from birth, or in the womb, or from other lives even. It's possible "I" was a Viking in a past life, the reason I had such a strong connection, first seeing a Viking, which was just a toy, story below, bolded. I don't know how to combine posts, but I'm going to essentially give the same answer to two different posts. I have about 15 early memories being with my Grandpa, mostly snapshots, sometimes more. I know these are me no older than 4 years 5 months old, as that's when my Grandpa died. I was pretty good at getting what I wanted. Once I saw a garden shovel in a hardware store, and simply had to have it. Grandpa bought it for me. Later, after Grandpa died, I was with my parents in a toy store. I saw this small grey Viking, about 2 & 1/2 inches tall. Of course I didn't know it was a Viking, but I just had to have it. It had a horn hat, and a sheathed sword. A year or so later a TV show came on, it was my favorite program, The Viking (or Vikings, don't recall). But I later surmised I may have been a Viking in a former life. Now, I have other early memories, which would indicate...let's just say I wasn't a baby, long, I have 'adult' memories, so I was never really a child. I always had a sense of being trapped in a child's body, and I had to grow up in order to be free. That doesn't mean I have specific memories from a past life. I'm sure tenka knows exactly what I'm talking about. And andrew too, at least if only second hand. And enigma would know by now, too. I wanted to like everything to get him the message, read to him the Tibetan Book of the Dead, but that felt like an intrusion. ... Did you know there has been only one Dalai Lama? The same ~individual~ passes from life to life, incarnation to incarnation. There is a process, there was in the past, a process to find the new incarnation. The present Dalai Lama has said that maybe he is the last Dalai Lama. He has kind of hinted at maybe it's time for him to retire (my words), that he is done (being the Dalai Lama), there isn't a need for another, as he no longer has a country, to rule. Sorry, this is long, but I'll add a note. While my Viking show was still on, my family went to an ACC basketball game at the Charlotte Coliseum. At halftime *my* Viking, the actor who did the TV program, came out at halftime and did an archery demonstration. I was asleep. Afterwards, my parents told me, I was furious. They said, we tried to wake you up. I was even more furious. I remember thinking: YOU TRIED?!?!? You didn't try very hard. They didn't have a clue how important that would have been to me, it still make me angry . en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tales_of_the_Vikings So, Buddhists were right after all " The notions of memory in Buddhism ranges from remembrance of innumerable past lives through the analyses of mind's ability to store data to " mindfulness " It's just theory and speculation, until it's not.
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Post by tenka on Aug 15, 2024 13:05:58 GMT -5
Are Telepathy, Clairvoyance and 'Hearing' Possible in Utero; Suggestive Evidence as Revealed During Hypnotic by David B. Cheek, MDPublication info: Pre- and Peri-natal Psychology Journal 7. 2 (Winter 1992): 125-137. ProQuest document linkABSTRACT: Evidence supplied through age-regression studies of adults based on a combination of ideomotor techniques and hypnosis suggests that telepathy, clairvoyance and some form of hearing are perceptions available to the human fetus from the emotional moment its mother knows she is pregnant onward. Fetal interpretation of maternal communications may be mistaken as rejection. Telepathic commands between mother and immature young probably have survival value for lower mammals. The mechanism for silent warning and absolute obedience needs completion before birth. Search methods and ways of reframing negative imprints are presented. ... quite accidentally found that a young lady was able to report her significant experience during her fifth month of intrauterine life. Here is her report, to be followed by three others demonstrating what I believe to be extraordinary perceptions of the human fetus. I suggest, from evidence offered by well over 1000 patients and students in demonstrations, that knowledge of maternal thoughts may have survival value for young mammals before they can struggle for themselves without protection. It seems logical also that the communication system is complete prior to birth. Is it possible to have memories from being in the womb? It is scientifically impossible to remember events before your brain is sufficiently developed to hold on to such memories. People here who have claimed memories in the first couple of years of their lives will have created memories from dreams or other people's recollections. People who claim to remember being in the womb are, to be frank, utterly deluded. - James Portfield, London UK I hear that some who have been regressed have an account of being born. Everything is recorded in time, it's just that we are not conscious of everything. The subconscious mind comes into play. I have memories of past lives prior to this current incarnation like may do. Peeps that are not of this plane of existence, that are not physical do not have a brain and yet have an account of what they do and what they have done. That's not to say that on a physical level, you get hit by a sledgehammer, you might have difficulties in some shape or form recalling and understanding what is going on half the time, butt there is a bigger picture at play.
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Post by tenka on Aug 15, 2024 13:10:41 GMT -5
What would be out of your control if there is only One? Yes, that's correct. We feel something missing and not having right now(Infact it appears that way), so we are chasing. But Infact, we are 'All That Is' itself creating the reality. Butt you said, 'If you are chasing something which is out of your control'. Can you give an example of what one could chase that isn't in their immediate control even though there is only one? Let's say Enigma's passing of late. Would that be an example of being outside of your control even though there is only one. What does that mean if there was no immediate control of that, even though there were many that were trying to help him stay of this world a little longer.
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Post by tenka on Aug 15, 2024 13:23:03 GMT -5
I think a lot of non dualists with this understanding will be surprised when their physical body is transcended, to find themselves as the wave still. Interesting point. From my understanding, the 'wave' perspective indicates more of an intrinsic interest in form than some inadequacy on the part of the non dual practitioner. The sage that lives to benefit Earth and humanity is not going to dissolve into the Boundless at the first opportunity. I found Ronnie Corbett to be the only British celebrity whose brilliance merged with the All at their death. From my understanding everyone that passes over into the next realm has the opportunity to merge with Source for use of a better word. There can be a different perspective had from the spirit realms where aspects of self knowing and remembrance can come flooding back once the veil of ignorance has been lifted. For many, it takes a physical death for that to happen. Transcending the material world is difficult, because the veil can be firmly covering potential expanded awareness for many a reason. Everyone can self realise from the spirit side of life, it's merely an intention had to make it so. From the physical side of life with ignorance and amnesia at the forefront makes it so difficult. That's why it can take lifetimes after lifetimes even though there is an inner knowing of what you are regardless. For some reason, some non dualists think that when this dream lifetime is over one dissolves back into nothingness. It simply isn't true. I am more than happy for peeps to find that out for themselves at some point.
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Post by inavalan on Aug 15, 2024 13:40:08 GMT -5
Everything always "merges" with what it resonates with. Even "now" and "here".
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Aug 15, 2024 14:41:14 GMT -5
Everything always "merges" with what it resonates with. Even "now" and "here". Yes. Over the years it began to dawn on me that resonance is a very significant means of operation of the universe. Once you see it you see it everywhere. laughter probably knows more about how electricity works than I do. Tesla figured out some very significant things. My boss could do anything with transformers. I don't have a clue how it's done, but you can take 240 volts, which has no neutral, and derive a neutral out of it, and create 110 volts, which has a neutral. That's your ordinary electricity, like an ordinary outlet. But Tesla figured out the principle of induction, where wires don't touch, but you can induce a current in one wire by it just being adjacent to the wire that has power. But as far a I can discern, it works on the principle of resonance, he made an induction motor. Tesla also figured out that everything that exists has a certain vibration. There is a famous story, as far as I know it was never verified 100%. But Tesla figured out the frequency of the building where he lived. He attached a mall motor to a steel column, with a kind of plunger. He synchronized a hit from the motor to the frequency of the building. The building began to shake like it was in an earthquake. Every hit from the motor, at just the precise time, increased the movement of the building, swaying. The story is that just as the police showed up, Tesla was smashing the motor with a hammer. All that from resonance. You've probably heard that as soldiers march across a bridge, they ~break step~ every so often so as not to set up a resonance frequency, and damage the bridge. This is a real thing. When I was in HS, we saw a film of the famous collapse of the Tacoma Narrows Bridge in Washington state. Engineers did not take into consideration the strong winds in the area, and winds set up a resonance frequency that crashed the bridge. This is an amazing film if you've never seen it. Resonance operates everywhere. LOA and basically everything that A-H talks about, works from the principle of resonance.
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Post by melvin on Aug 15, 2024 14:42:45 GMT -5
So, Buddhists were right after all " The notions of memory in Buddhism ranges from remembrance of innumerable past lives through the analyses of mind's ability to store data to " mindfulness " It's just theory and speculation, until it's not. " Remain focus in the I am until it goes into oblivion, then the eternal is, the Absolute is, Parabrahman is. " " Prior to birth where was the I am? Dont contaminate I am with the body idea. As I the Absolute am not the I am " " When you know both the I am and the I am not, then you are the Absolute which transcends the knowingness and not-knowingness." Quotes from Nisagardatta Maharaj
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Aug 15, 2024 15:05:17 GMT -5
Interesting point. From my understanding, the 'wave' perspective indicates more of an intrinsic interest in form than some inadequacy on the part of the non dual practitioner. The sage that lives to benefit Earth and humanity is not going to dissolve into the Boundless at the first opportunity. I found Ronnie Corbett to be the only British celebrity whose brilliance merged with the All at their death. From my understanding everyone that passes over into the next realm has the opportunity to merge with Source for use of a better word.There can be a different perspective had from the spirit realms where aspects of self knowing and remembrance can come flooding back once the veil of ignorance has been lifted. For many, it takes a physical death for that to happen. Transcending the material world is difficult, because the veil can be firmly covering potential expanded awareness for many a reason. Everyone can self realise from the spirit side of life, it's merely an intention had to make it so. From the physical side of life with ignorance and amnesia at the forefront makes it so difficult. That's why it can take lifetimes after lifetimes even though there is an inner knowing of what you are regardless. For some reason, some non dualists think that when this dream lifetime is over one dissolves back into nothingness. It simply isn't true.I am more than happy for peeps to find that out for themselves at some point. The Tibetans have figured out a lot about what occurs at death. The ~person~ does not die when the physical body dies. From memory (reading), it takes about 50 days for the subjective ~person~ to die. This is called the Bardo, from the Tibetan Book of the Dead. Tibetan Buddhist study and prepare for death all their life. It they don't reach enlightenment before death, they can attain it in the process of death. One is ~exposed~ to the ~Light~, and if you can maintain consciousness when the Light comes, you can be liberated. If you can't maintain consciousness, then the subjective self dies, and the vasanas and samskaras eventually form a new life in a new body. Some say the process is inevitable, some say you can choose when you want to incarnate. I rather think the process is inevitable. Maybe a higher aspect of your being has some say-so, but if the energy has not be taken out of the vasanas and samskaras, ~you're~ going to incarnate again. Now, while I'm here, the Tibetans say you're not 'done' until you attain the rainbow body.
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Post by Gopal on Aug 15, 2024 23:12:24 GMT -5
Autonomic nervous system doesn't exist independenly to be controlled. Everything appears, everything that you see, that you feel. There is no outer world in itself. Exactly. That was my point. ok
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Post by Gopal on Aug 15, 2024 23:14:01 GMT -5
Those are all acceptable. They don’t qualify as chasing since there’s no goal involved and no plan has been devised. Could you give more detail about 'goals' and 'devised plans' here? For example, 2 year olds can have 'goals' to get things they want. And in getting them, they get the emotional state they want. They probably aren't consciously thinking about the emotional state, but the emotional state of 'satisfaction' is still what they want. Whether it's a specific toy, or a particular drink....2 year olds can be pretty smart at getting what they want, and using emotion to get it. So maybe a bit further clarification would be useful, if you feel like it. Set a goal to buy an apple from the shop. Set a goal to experience the Love or happy. Do you feel the difference?
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Post by Gopal on Aug 15, 2024 23:19:07 GMT -5
Yes, that's correct. We feel something missing and not having right now(Infact it appears that way), so we are chasing. But Infact, we are 'All That Is' itself creating the reality. Butt you said, 'If you are chasing something which is out of your control'. Can you give an example of what one could chase that isn't in their immediate control even though there is only one? Let's say Enigma's passing of late. Would that be an example of being outside of your control even though there is only one. What does that mean if there was no immediate control of that, even though there were many that were trying to help him stay of this world a little longer. A child who sets a goal to achieve the top mark in class will continue to pursue it even if he doesn’t succeed initially. This pursuit, or ‘chasing,’ persists. He creates a plan and follows it diligently. Whether it’s striving for a goal or trying to overcome emotions like anger or irritation, it’s all a form of chasing. When you chase something desirable, you also start chasing solutions to fix issues in your life in other areas. The initial chase (desirable state) leads to subsequent ones (fixing the problem), but since we are often unaware of this, we end up trying to fix our problems endlessly without success.
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Post by sharon on Aug 16, 2024 2:47:57 GMT -5
Interesting point. From my understanding, the 'wave' perspective indicates more of an intrinsic interest in form than some inadequacy on the part of the non dual practitioner. The sage that lives to benefit Earth and humanity is not going to dissolve into the Boundless at the first opportunity. I found Ronnie Corbett to be the only British celebrity whose brilliance merged with the All at their death. From my understanding everyone that passes over into the next realm has the opportunity to merge with Source for use of a better word. There can be a different perspective had from the spirit realms where aspects of self knowing and remembrance can come flooding back once the veil of ignorance has been lifted. For many, it takes a physical death for that to happen. Transcending the material world is difficult, because the veil can be firmly covering potential expanded awareness for many a reason. Everyone can self realise from the spirit side of life, it's merely an intention had to make it so. From the physical side of life with ignorance and amnesia at the forefront makes it so difficult. That's why it can take lifetimes after lifetimes even though there is an inner knowing of what you are regardless.For some reason, some non dualists think that when this dream lifetime is over one dissolves back into nothingness. It simply isn't true. I am more than happy for peeps to find that out for themselves at some point. This is where we differ. You are choosing lifetimes after lifetimes, because of, your intrinsic interest in form and the joy of the limitations of it.
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Post by sharon on Aug 16, 2024 2:54:26 GMT -5
Butt you said, 'If you are chasing something which is out of your control'. Can you give an example of what one could chase that isn't in their immediate control even though there is only one? Let's say Enigma's passing of late. Would that be an example of being outside of your control even though there is only one. What does that mean if there was no immediate control of that, even though there were many that were trying to help him stay of this world a little longer. A child who sets a goal to achieve the top mark in class will continue to pursue it even if he doesn’t succeed initially. This pursuit, or ‘chasing,’ persists. He creates a plan and follows it diligently. Whether it’s striving for a goal or trying to overcome emotions like anger or irritation, it’s all a form of chasing. When you chase something desirable, you also start chasing solutions to fix issues in your life in other areas. The initial chase (desirable state) leads to subsequent ones (fixing the problem), but since we are often unaware of this, we end up trying to fix our problems endlessly without success. It's not success that you're after it's the intent and focus of having a goal that is wanted. The goal doesn't matter. What's satisfying is the applcation of potential throughout the day, the feeling of worthiness. Having something important to do is what is desired. The achievement itself is the end of those feelings, so that's not really wanted.
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Post by Gopal on Aug 16, 2024 7:00:33 GMT -5
A child who sets a goal to achieve the top mark in class will continue to pursue it even if he doesn’t succeed initially. This pursuit, or ‘chasing,’ persists. He creates a plan and follows it diligently. Whether it’s striving for a goal or trying to overcome emotions like anger or irritation, it’s all a form of chasing. When you chase something desirable, you also start chasing solutions to fix issues in your life in other areas. The initial chase (desirable state) leads to subsequent ones (fixing the problem), but since we are often unaware of this, we end up trying to fix our problems endlessly without success. It's not success that you're after it's the intent and focus of having a goal that is wanted. The goal doesn't matter. What's satisfying is the applcation of potential throughout the day, the feeling of worthiness. Having something important to do is what is desired. The achievement itself is the end of those feelings, so that's not really wanted. Based on my experience, “All That Is” continually brings forth new creations through its individual perspectives. When it expresses itself, the creation is effortless and often receives much appreciation. There’s no need to set a goal for this; it simply happens, and you recognize that the creation flows through you without any effort on your part.
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Aug 16, 2024 8:44:37 GMT -5
From my understanding everyone that passes over into the next realm has the opportunity to merge with Source for use of a better word. There can be a different perspective had from the spirit realms where aspects of self knowing and remembrance can come flooding back once the veil of ignorance has been lifted. For many, it takes a physical death for that to happen. Transcending the material world is difficult, because the veil can be firmly covering potential expanded awareness for many a reason. Everyone can self realise from the spirit side of life, it's merely an intention had to make it so. From the physical side of life with ignorance and amnesia at the forefront makes it so difficult. That's why it can take lifetimes after lifetimes even though there is an inner knowing of what you are regardless.For some reason, some non dualists think that when this dream lifetime is over one dissolves back into nothingness. It simply isn't true. I am more than happy for peeps to find that out for themselves at some point. This is where we differ. You are choosing lifetimes after lifetimes, because of, your intrinsic interest in form and the joy of the limitations of it. What do you mean you are choosing? It either works this way or it doesn't. We have zero say in how the universe is set up in relation to conscious and intelligent beings. If it is, and we are in denial of it, then we are in delusion. What we consider ourselves to be, is but a tiny aspect of the totality, maybe 1%. We don't get to make up the rules as we go along.
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