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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2022 8:54:13 GMT -5
I've answered it, you just don't like the answer. Just ask me a simple question. So where is it? Straightforward questions seem to bring out all kinds of responses from folk . You want to know if I have any other reference for what I perceive. No I don't.
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Post by tenka on Jul 23, 2022 9:01:40 GMT -5
So where is it? Straightforward questions seem to bring out all kinds of responses from folk . You want to know if I have any other reference for what I perceive. No I don't. So you have no idea what your wife could possibly be if not a real perceiver . This is why I gave the gorilla suit as an example to explain what could appear to be a real gorilla but wasn't . You need this comparison in order to know what is real and what isn't in regards to what appears as something . The rope and the snake being another . Don't worry Gopal hasn't anything in his locker either . So we have a foundation that only evolves around real perceivers because there are no comparisons that are coming forward to oppose or negate it . The same goes for the dream foundation when there are no comparisons to there being a world experienced that isn't a dream . You can't have a foundation of no comparison in regards to what one is in reflection of not knowing other's .
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2022 9:02:40 GMT -5
You want to know if I have any other reference for what I perceive. No I don't. So you have no idea what your wife could possibly be if not a real perceiver . This is why I gave the gorilla suit as an example to explain what could appear to be a real gorilla but wasn't . You need this comparison in order to know what is real and what isn't in regards to what appears as something . The rope and the snake being another . Don't worry Gopal hasn't anything in his locker either . So we have a foundation that only evolves around real perceivers because there are no comparisons that are coming forward to oppose or negate it . The same goes for the dream foundation when there are no comparisons to there being a world experienced that wasn't a dream . You can't have a foundation of no comparison in regards to what one is in reflection of not knowing other's . He consistently gives you very clear answer but you are not understanding and that's why I say you have an understanding issue.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2022 9:03:54 GMT -5
You want to know if I have any other reference for what I perceive. No I don't. So you have no idea what your wife could possibly be if not a real perceiver . This is why I gave the gorilla suit as an example to explain what could appear to be a real gorilla but wasn't . You need this comparison in order to know what is real and what isn't in regards to what appears as something . The rope and the snake being another . Don't worry Gopal hasn't anything in his locker either . So we have a foundation that only evolves around real perceivers because there are no comparisons that are coming forward to oppose or negate it . The same goes for the dream foundation when there are no comparisons to there being a world experienced that isn't a dream . You can't have a foundation of no comparison in regards to what one is in reflection of not knowing other's . I gave you my answer. Now give me yours. What reference do you have apart from what you perceive?
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Post by tenka on Jul 23, 2022 9:04:05 GMT -5
So you have no idea what your wife could possibly be if not a real perceiver . This is why I gave the gorilla suit as an example to explain what could appear to be a real gorilla but wasn't . You need this comparison in order to know what is real and what isn't in regards to what appears as something . The rope and the snake being another . Don't worry Gopal hasn't anything in his locker either . So we have a foundation that only evolves around real perceivers because there are no comparisons that are coming forward to oppose or negate it . The same goes for the dream foundation when there are no comparisons to there being a world experienced that wasn't a dream . You can't have a foundation of no comparison in regards to what one is in reflection of not knowing other's . He consistently gives you very clear answer but you are not understanding and that's why I say you have an understanding issue. He actually didn't answer me at all in regards to what I asked . What are you not understanding here Gopal? I asked him to point out the answer and he couldn't because he didn't answer at the time just like you don't .
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2022 9:05:27 GMT -5
He consistently gives you very clear answer but you are not understanding and that's why I say you have an understanding issue. He actually didn't answer me at all in regards to what I asked . What are not understanding here Gopal? I asked him to point out the answer and he couldn't because he didn't answer at the time just like you don't . He did answer your question but you questions are showing me that you did not understand, that's an understanding issue. So nobody from this from can help you.
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Post by tenka on Jul 23, 2022 9:06:01 GMT -5
So you have no idea what your wife could possibly be if not a real perceiver . This is why I gave the gorilla suit as an example to explain what could appear to be a real gorilla but wasn't . You need this comparison in order to know what is real and what isn't in regards to what appears as something . The rope and the snake being another . Don't worry Gopal hasn't anything in his locker either . So we have a foundation that only evolves around real perceivers because there are no comparisons that are coming forward to oppose or negate it . The same goes for the dream foundation when there are no comparisons to there being a world experienced that isn't a dream . You can't have a foundation of no comparison in regards to what one is in reflection of not knowing other's . I gave you my answer. Now give me yours. What reference do you have apart from what you perceive? In what context? What reference do I have apart from what I perceive of the mind? Beyond?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2022 9:07:47 GMT -5
I gave you my answer. Now give me yours. What reference do you have apart from what you perceive? In what context? What reference do I have apart from what I perceive of the mind? Beyond? Can you answer the same question you asked me? What reference do you have apart from what appears to you.
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Post by tenka on Jul 23, 2022 9:08:41 GMT -5
He actually didn't answer me at all in regards to what I asked . What are not understanding here Gopal? I asked him to point out the answer and he couldn't because he didn't answer at the time just like you don't . He did answer your question but you questions are showing me that you did not understand, that's an understanding issue. So nobody from this from can help you. Show me it ..
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Post by tenka on Jul 23, 2022 9:10:46 GMT -5
In what context? What reference do I have apart from what I perceive of the mind? Beyond? Can you answer the same question you asked me? What reference do you have apart from what appears to you. That wasn't the question I asked you . I asked you what else could your wife be if not a real perceiver . I asked you if you had another reference for what she could possibly be if not a real perceiver . You said you don't have any other reference . This is why there is an issue with your foundation because you don't have a comparison for it . Just like Gopal doesn't have a comparison for the dream at night and then isn't interested in explaining anything . Like said I gave the gorilla suit as an example of an appearance of a gorilla that actually wasn't a gorilla . As there isn't any reference coming forward for what an appearance of a wife having babies is other than that then it doesn't make sense to say what you say ..
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2022 9:12:51 GMT -5
Can you answer the same question you asked me? What reference do you have apart from what appears to you. That wasn't the question I asked you . I asked you what else could your wife be if not a real perceiver . I asked you if you had another reference for what she could possibly be if not a real perceiver . You said you don't have any other reference . This is why there is an issue with your foundation because you don't have a comparison for it . Just like Gopal doesn't have a comparison for the dream at night and then isn't interested in explaining anything . this is the question you asked me. "Do you have any other reference for what that can appear to be other than what it appears to be? Straightforward question" Can you now give me your answer to your own question?
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Post by tenka on Jul 23, 2022 9:15:54 GMT -5
That wasn't the question I asked you . I asked you what else could your wife be if not a real perceiver . I asked you if you had another reference for what she could possibly be if not a real perceiver . You said you don't have any other reference . This is why there is an issue with your foundation because you don't have a comparison for it . Just like Gopal doesn't have a comparison for the dream at night and then isn't interested in explaining anything . this is the question you asked me. "Do you have any other reference for what that can appear to be other than what it appears to be? Straightforward question" Can you now give me your answer to your own question? In relation to what I asked you about the wife or the cat or someone running a marathon or having babies . I had asked you the same question about 6 times. I have given the gorilla suit as an example about 4 times now . This would be a reference for something that wasn't what it appeared to be . I gave the gorilla suit analogy and explained why I did . Do you understand why I gave it? This is a comparison . You don't have a comparison for what a child bearing wife could possibly be . This is because you do have a foundational belief system in place that mirrors real perceivers rather than not .
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2022 9:19:20 GMT -5
this is the question you asked me. "Do you have any other reference for what that can appear to be other than what it appears to be? Straightforward question" Can you now give me your answer to your own question? In relation to what I asked you about the wife or the cat or someone running a marathon or having babies . I had asked you the same question about 6 times. I have given the gorilla suit as an example about 4 times now . This would be a reference for something that wasn't what it appeared to be . you asked me this question. "Do you have any other reference for what that can appear to be other than what it appears to be?" I answered by saying no I do not. You dismissed my answer and told me you think that there's an issue with it. Okay I accept that. This means that whereas I don't have another reference for what appears you presumably do. Can you tell me what that reference is for you. I would really like to know.
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Post by tenka on Jul 23, 2022 9:23:46 GMT -5
In relation to what I asked you about the wife or the cat or someone running a marathon or having babies . I had asked you the same question about 6 times. I have given the gorilla suit as an example about 4 times now . This would be a reference for something that wasn't what it appeared to be . you asked me this question. "Do you have any other reference for what that can appear to be other than what it appears to be?" I answered by saying no I do not. You dismissed my answer and told me you think that there's an issue with it. Okay I accept that. This means that whereas I don't have another reference for what appears you presumably do. Can you tell me what that reference is for you. I would really like to know. I didn't dismiss your answer, I told you why you need a comparison . You don't have one . There is a difference . I keep saying to you that I have been speaking about references regarding the wife, the cat, the runner, etc . It seems like you don't want to listen to that for some reason . It's no good quoting one line from a post when the last dozen posts have had the same theme in regards to what else could the wife be . Take your one liner 'Do you have any other reference for what that can appear to be other than what it appears to be' and refer it to what I have been specifically asking you for an hour or so now .
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2022 9:26:46 GMT -5
you asked me this question. "Do you have any other reference for what that can appear to be other than what it appears to be?" I answered by saying no I do not. You dismissed my answer and told me you think that there's an issue with it. Okay I accept that. This means that whereas I don't have another reference for what appears you presumably do. Can you tell me what that reference is for you. I would really like to know. I didn't dismiss your answer, I told you why you need a comparison . You don't have one . There is a difference . I keep saying to you that I have been speaking about references regarding the wife, the cat, the runner, etc . It seems like you don't want to listen to that for some reason . It's no good quoting one line from a post when the last dozen posts have had the same theme in regards to what else could the wife be . so you are saying that your reference for knowing that the gorilla is a real conscious gorilla is that you've seen a gorilla suit as a comparison? So let me ask you. What if you had never seen a gorilla suit? what reference would you have for the real conscious gorilla other than what appears to you?
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