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Post by tenka on Jul 23, 2022 8:08:44 GMT -5
Butt if you asked them and they said they were, there would be no more assumptions? For the record E said that he guesses Marie is a real perceiver . Gopal believes his wife is a real perceiver butt still doesn't know . I don't think you are ever going to understand this. I'll have one more go. I know that I am conscious but I do not have the same direct evidence that someone else is conscious because I cannot get into their mind. I do understand what you are saying, but as I have said and other's this whole 'them and us thing' you have going on doesn't work from all angles . To suggest another has a mind to get into must reflect that there is someone that has a mind to get into and yet you don't know if there are other's to begin with . This is why I talk about foundations . Gopal say's one thing and does another in regards to his premise and foundation because they constantly don't match . So do you believe there is another who has their own mind? I would say not based upon what you have said about not knowing if another is conscious or not even though they are having babies and running marathons .. What on earth could be doing these types of things if they were not consciously aware?This is a question I have asked many times to no avail . |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2022 8:15:04 GMT -5
Butt if you asked them and they said they were, there would be no more assumptions? For the record E said that he guesses Marie is a real perceiver . Gopal believes his wife is a real perceiver butt still doesn't know . I don't think you are ever going to understand this. I'll have one more go. I know that I am conscious but I do not have the same direct evidence that someone else is conscious because I cannot get into their mind. Yes he will never understand this. That's for sure. He is the only one has the understanding issue here as I said earlier. |
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Post by tenka on Jul 23, 2022 8:16:58 GMT -5
I don't think you are ever going to understand this. I'll have one more go. I know that I am conscious but I do not have the same direct evidence that someone else is conscious because I cannot get into their mind. Yes he will never understand this. That's for sure. He is the only one has the understanding issue here as I said earlier. What could your wife be Gopal if not a real perceiver? Do you understand my question? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2022 8:18:39 GMT -5
Yes he will never understand this. That's for sure. He is the only one has the understanding issue here as I said earlier. What could your wife be Gopal if not a real perceiver? Do you understand my question? Sorry I can't fight with your understanding issue. |
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Post by tenka on Jul 23, 2022 8:21:18 GMT -5
What could your wife be Gopal if not a real perceiver? Do you understand my question? Sorry I can't fight with your understanding issue. What issue is it that you think I have regarding asking you a question? What's my question got to do with anything other than what is in the question . |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2022 8:24:02 GMT -5
I don't think you are ever going to understand this. I'll have one more go. I know that I am conscious but I do not have the same direct evidence that someone else is conscious because I cannot get into their mind. I do understand what you are saying, but as I have said and other's this whole 'them and us thing' you have going on doesn't work from all angles . To suggest another has a mind to get into must reflect that there is someone that has a mind to get into and yet you don't know if there are other's to begin with . This is why I talk about foundations . Gopal say's one thing and does another in regards to his premise and foundation because they constantly don't match . So do you believe there is another who has their own mind? I would say not based upon what you have said about not knowing if another is conscious or not even though they are having babies and running marathons .. What on earth could be doing these types of things if they were not consciously aware?This is a question I have asked many times to no avail . yeah and I keep saying that others appear to be consciously aware. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2022 8:26:40 GMT -5
I do understand what you are saying, but as I have said and other's this whole 'them and us thing' you have going on doesn't work from all angles . To suggest another has a mind to get into must reflect that there is someone that has a mind to get into and yet you don't know if there are other's to begin with . This is why I talk about foundations . Gopal say's one thing and does another in regards to his premise and foundation because they constantly don't match . So do you believe there is another who has their own mind? I would say not based upon what you have said about not knowing if another is conscious or not even though they are having babies and running marathons .. What on earth could be doing these types of things if they were not consciously aware?This is a question I have asked many times to no avail . yeah and I keep saying that others appear to be consciously aware. Yes. |
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Post by tenka on Jul 23, 2022 8:27:03 GMT -5
I do understand what you are saying, but as I have said and other's this whole 'them and us thing' you have going on doesn't work from all angles . To suggest another has a mind to get into must reflect that there is someone that has a mind to get into and yet you don't know if there are other's to begin with . This is why I talk about foundations . Gopal say's one thing and does another in regards to his premise and foundation because they constantly don't match . So do you believe there is another who has their own mind? I would say not based upon what you have said about not knowing if another is conscious or not even though they are having babies and running marathons .. What on earth could be doing these types of things if they were not consciously aware?This is a question I have asked many times to no avail . yeah and I keep saying that others appear to be consciously aware. You use the words appear and assume that other's are aware . So I am asking you for another time what else could the appearance be that is having babies that isn't consciously aware . The man made gorilla suit appears to be a real gorilla . I assume it's a real Gorilla . These are how you are putting things across . The gorilla suit is a prime example of what I am simply asking you for in regards to what can give birth to babies that are not real perceivers . Can you give me an example? Straight forward question . |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2022 8:34:12 GMT -5
yeah and I keep saying that others appear to be consciously aware. You use the words appear and assume that other's are aware . So I am asking you for another time what else could the appearance be that is having babies that isn't consciously aware . The man made gorilla suit appears to be a real gorilla . I assume it's a real Gorilla . These are how you are putting things across . The gorilla suit is a prime example of what I am simply asking you for in regards to what can give birth to babies that are not real perceivers . Can you give me an example? Straight forward question . do you believe that you are aware or do you know that you are aware? I don't know about you but I know that I am I know that I am aware but when I look at others who appear to be aware I cannot say I know they are aware I would have to say I believe they are aware. Why don't you understand this and why are you asking questions about gorillas? |
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Post by tenka on Jul 23, 2022 8:40:05 GMT -5
You use the words appear and assume that other's are aware . So I am asking you for another time what else could the appearance be that is having babies that isn't consciously aware . The man made gorilla suit appears to be a real gorilla . I assume it's a real Gorilla . These are how you are putting things across . The gorilla suit is a prime example of what I am simply asking you for in regards to what can give birth to babies that are not real perceivers . Can you give me an example? Straight forward question . do you believe that you are aware or do you know that you are aware? I don't know about you but I know that I am I know that I am aware but when I look at others who appear to be aware I cannot say I know they are aware I would have to say I believe they are aware. Why don't you understand this and why are you asking questions about gorillas? I have asked you about 5 or 6 times for a straightforward answer Satch . You're turning into Gopal mark2 You dismiss my straightforward questions and then ask me questions . I need to know what your answers are to my questions . If you don't want to answer, just say mate, I won't take offence, but peeps like Gopal he is here just to wind folks up . I am asking you about the gorillas, because there has to be an example to why things can assume and appear to be when they are not . Now I am asking you what is the example you have for an individual peep that gives birth to a child .
Do you have any other reference for what that can appear to be other than what it appears to be?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2022 8:47:08 GMT -5
do you believe that you are aware or do you know that you are aware? I don't know about you but I know that I am I know that I am aware but when I look at others who appear to be aware I cannot say I know they are aware I would have to say I believe they are aware. Why don't you understand this and why are you asking questions about gorillas? I have asked you about 5 or 6 times for a straightforward answer Satch . You're turning into Gopal mark2 You dismiss my straightforward questions and then ask me questions . I need to know what your answers are to my questions . If you don't want to answer, just say mate, I won't take offence, but peeps like Gopal he is here just to wind folks up . I am asking you about the gorillas, because there has to be an example to why things can assume and appear to be when they are not . Now I am asking you what is the example you have for an individual peep that gives birth to a child .
Do you have any other reference for what that can appear to be other than what it appears to be?
Straightforward question I've answered your questions but my answers aren't good enough for you. To answer your question what appears to be is what appears to be. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2022 8:48:58 GMT -5
I have asked you about 5 or 6 times for a straightforward answer Satch . You're turning into Gopal mark2 You dismiss my straightforward questions and then ask me questions . I need to know what your answers are to my questions . If you don't want to answer, just say mate, I won't take offence, but peeps like Gopal he is here just to wind folks up . I am asking you about the gorillas, because there has to be an example to why things can assume and appear to be when they are not . Now I am asking you what is the example you have for an individual peep that gives birth to a child .
Do you have any other reference for what that can appear to be other than what it appears to be?
Straightforward question I've answered your questions but my answers aren't good enough for you. To answer your question what appears to be is what appears to be. Yes  The funny thing for me here is even ZD is not understanding. |
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Post by tenka on Jul 23, 2022 8:49:17 GMT -5
I have asked you about 5 or 6 times for a straightforward answer Satch . You're turning into Gopal mark2 You dismiss my straightforward questions and then ask me questions . I need to know what your answers are to my questions . If you don't want to answer, just say mate, I won't take offence, but peeps like Gopal he is here just to wind folks up . I am asking you about the gorillas, because there has to be an example to why things can assume and appear to be when they are not . Now I am asking you what is the example you have for an individual peep that gives birth to a child .
Do you have any other reference for what that can appear to be other than what it appears to be?
Straightforward question I've answered your questions but my answers aren't good enough for you. To answer your question what appears to be is what appears to be. You haven't answered my direct question Satch sorry . Where is it? It's a small thread, just point it out . |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2022 8:51:27 GMT -5
I've answered your questions but my answers aren't good enough for you. To answer your question what appears to be is what appears to be. You haven't answered my direct question Satch sorry . Where is it? It's a small thread, just point it out . I've answered it, you just don't like the answer. Just ask me a simple question. |
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Post by tenka on Jul 23, 2022 8:52:41 GMT -5
You haven't answered my direct question Satch sorry . Where is it? It's a small thread, just point it out . I've answered it, you just don't like the answer. Just ask me a simple question. So where is it? Straightforward questions seem to bring out all kinds of responses from folk . |
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The funny thing for me here is even ZD is not understanding.