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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2021 1:24:59 GMT -5
Is anybody suffering here? Most here can't even agree on a definition of what 'suffering' means. So from my perspective, that's the wrong question to ask. A much betterer question to ask would be: "Is anybody feeling invincible here?" or "When was the last time you felt invincible?" because that goes straight to the heart of the matter. Nothing-lost as when it has 'gone-in,' suffering becomes conscious
when the invinible-one stubs their toe or hits their head accidentally
when 'standing-up suddenly.'
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2021 7:59:37 GMT -5
That’s presumption to think another is worried.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2021 8:19:44 GMT -5
That’s one type of suffering ‘you’ no-longer grapple with. Nice. At another level, the globes Warlords are unable to end their mental-disease like you did and have to project their mental-illness into others in an effort to gain temporary relief. People are people, why worry about their mental status? Is there a standard to which all should aspire to conform to? I doubt there could be a ‘standard’; Religion shows us that.
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Post by ary on Sept 16, 2021 21:11:56 GMT -5
I understand the ND world. All I can say is, so what? Translated to Christian language, that could be, "I met God. So what?" Really?
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Sept 16, 2021 21:18:14 GMT -5
I understand the ND world. All I can say is, so what? Translated to Christian language, that could be, "I met God. So what?" Really? I wouldn't translate it as such. (And ND does not acknowledge a God like the Christian God, anyway).
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Post by laughter on Sept 17, 2021 4:36:07 GMT -5
Translated to Christian language, that could be, "I met God. So what?" Really? I wouldn't translate it as such. (And ND does not acknowledge a God like the Christian God, anyway). Both Niz and diaper guy were quite comfortable speaking in terms of God when the dialog turned to it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2021 4:43:54 GMT -5
I wouldn't translate it as such. (And ND does not acknowledge a God like the Christian God, anyway). Both Niz and diaper guy were quite comfortable speaking in terms of God when the dialog turned to it. May I ask who diaper guy maybe?
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Post by laughter on Sept 17, 2021 4:51:25 GMT -5
I understand the ND world. All I can say is, so what? Translated to Christian language, that could be, "I met God. So what?" Really? There's Christian educational material that contains the advice to "not settle for the God of your imagination", and anyone saying "so what" to Advaita has definitely settled for the Advaita of their imagination.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2021 5:20:28 GMT -5
Isn’t Life God?
Without life no baby lives.
Life brings about Bliss if you get in the way whilst looking inwardly. Sometimes bliss lasts for weeks; it certainly makes a seeker think faster hoping they may work it out, flip-flopping between the two hemispheres.
What I found after a strong-experience, was that when I cursed God for not revealing it’s self, my life caught on fire. I seemed to be thrust into the Oven, things around me became ‘compressed’ and all Hell broke loose simply because my “I wanted to know… urgently.”
Basically, my life became unravelled over a few years and I found myself on the hi-way away from God, as an idea and became more lively. That I liked; I seemed to have cracked a taboo and the Christian’s I knew became frightened saying, “Satan is fooling you.” There’s not much intelligence in the Christian-clubs around me they all wanting to saved instead of dying-daily as was preached in Church, the Preacher then baptising my then wifie lol.
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Post by laughter on Sept 17, 2021 5:31:28 GMT -5
Both Niz and diaper guy were quite comfortable speaking in terms of God when the dialog turned to it. May I ask who diaper guy maybe? Ramana Maharshi. (.. my wife coined the nickname ...)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2021 5:36:29 GMT -5
May I ask who diaper guy maybe? Ramana Maharshi. (.. my wife coined the nickname ...)She seems as bad as my wifie lol.
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Post by zendancer on Sept 17, 2021 6:46:30 GMT -5
Translated to Christian language, that could be, "I met God. So what?" Really? I wouldn't translate it as such. (And ND does not acknowledge a God like the Christian God, anyway). That's true. Christians worship an imaginary creation of mind, and picture God as a kind of all-knowing all-powerful father-figure in the sky. If a Christian apprehended the Infinite through a deep CC, I'm sure that the Christian would afterwards say, "I met God face to face, and God isn't anything like what I had imagined or what I had been taught. What God IS is unimaginable, inconceivable, incomprehensible to the human intellect, beyond all categories of thought, without any qualities, and in short, non-dual. God is pure love and cares about the well being of every blade of grass, but not in a way that makes any sense from a dualistic perspective. All that one can do after seeing THAT is bow down in wonder, worship, and adoration." Or, as Kabir so famously said, "I saw the truth for fifteen seconds and became a servant for life."
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Post by zendancer on Sept 17, 2021 6:52:40 GMT -5
Isn’t Life God? Without life no baby lives. Life brings about Bliss if you get in the way whilst looking inwardly. Sometimes bliss lasts for weeks; it certainly makes a seeker think faster hoping they may work it out, flip-flopping between the two hemispheres. What I found after a strong-experience, was that when I cursed God for not revealing it’s self, my life caught on fire. I seemed to be thrust into the Oven, things around me became ‘compressed’ and all Hell broke loose simply because my “I wanted to know… urgently.” Basically, my life became unravelled over a few years and I found myself on the hi-way away from God, as an idea and became more lively. That I liked; I seemed to have cracked a taboo and the Christian’s I knew became frightened saying, “Satan is fooling you.” There’s not much intelligence in the Christian-clubs around me they all wanting to saved instead of dying-daily as was preached in Church, the Preacher then baptising my then wifie lol. Yes, your post reminded me of something that Leonard Jacobsen once wrote: "Belief in God separates you from God. God can only be known through direct experience. And you will never have a direct experience Of God as long as you believe in God."
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2021 7:21:01 GMT -5
I wouldn't translate it as such. (And ND does not acknowledge a God like the Christian God, anyway). That's true. Christians worship an imaginary creation of mind, and picture God as a kind of all-knowing all-powerful father-figure in the sky. If a Christian apprehended the Infinite through a deep CC, I'm sure that the Christian would afterwards say, "I met God face to face, and God isn't anything like what I had imagined or what I had been taught. What God IS is unimaginable, inconceivable, incomprehensible to the human intellect, beyond all categories of thought, without any qualities, and in short, non-dual. God is pure love and cares about the well being of every blade of grass, but not in a way that makes any sense from a dualistic perspective. All that one can do after seeing THAT is bow down in wonder, worship, and adoration." Or, as Kabir so famously said, "I saw the truth for fifteen seconds and became a servant for life." ‘Making an exhibition of God’ used to save our lives when around the eagle-eye of accountants and note takers. Today, politics Rules and the heavyweights all get nuclear submarines money having become God.
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Sept 17, 2021 10:36:03 GMT -5
I wouldn't translate it as such. (And ND does not acknowledge a God like the Christian God, anyway). Both Niz and diaper guy were quite comfortable speaking in terms of God when the dialog turned to it. Nothing wrong with speaking the language of whoever you might be with. A sage can talk to anybody.
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