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Post by esponja on Jan 25, 2021 8:57:49 GMT -5
That's a really good picture because it captures a key event in world history and also gives some hints about the next higher level of reality many here are not even aware of because you will never see it explained in the news media. "All the world's a stage" as they say, and whatever happens on that stage happens for a reason. Below are some more pictures that captured key events on that stage and that should make it clear that things are not really what they seem, that the stories we get presented in the news media are just that, stories. Now, we are all looking at the exact same stage, but we all see different things and react differently to whatever happens on that stage based on how we make sense of what's happening there. And how we make sense of what's happening there depends on what stories we find most conclusive. And depending on our own level of awareness, we will find some narratives more conclusive than others. The narrative that is aimed at the people with the lowest level of awareness is presented in the MSM (blue pill). This narrative is very simplistic and allows only for very basic explanations of events. In fact, a lot of events that are happening on the stage actually can't be explained on that level. Whenever that happens, you will see certain topics either totally ignored or declared taboo in order to keep the narrative between these well-defined, very narrow lines. But not everyone feels comfortable in such a tiny mental box. And for those people there exist more complex stories (red pill), usually presented by non-MSM sources, that are almost as easily available as the MSM sources, but which are not promoted in the way the MSM narrative is promoted (one has to go look for them, although some just show up magically the suggested video column on youtube). And while the red pill narrative is able to explain a lot more events that are happening on the stage than the blue pill narrative, most red pill narratives have one big disadvantage: instead of just expanding the blue pill perspective by simply adding more details, they turn the blue pill perspective on its head and by doing so, the two narratives, instead of enhancing each other, they become incompatible. And the red pill narrative, in the end, is also just a story, and similar to the blue pill narrative, designed to direct attention along a certain path into a certain direction. So some people at some point will even find that rather roomy mental box as too limiting. And there is indeed another level beyond the red pill level. But unlike on the red pill level, here it is extremely difficult to find any sources at all. And if one is lucky enough to find them, they often disappear after a while because they rarely get shared or copied. And on that level of the narrative, one doesn't just gain more insights on the sequence and mechanics of the events unfolding on the stage, but the stage itself, its dimensions and function. So here are some more images of key world events that have the potential of taking one's understanding to the next level:       Now, all these events happened on the stage, for everyone to see. And I think we all know the lowest level explanation of these events (MSM), some may even know the next higher level explanation (anons). But what do these events really mean? And who are these people, really? How did they get on that stage? And most importantly: what does that all have to do with us? That’s gold. I follow mostly. The 3rd layer is.. the quantum realm where we create our own reality and none of rhis affects us. How come many non-dualists arn’t looking at any alternative narratives, i.e Mooji, Tolle etc they seem to be (on the face of it) falling for the msn. Mooji even remarked when George Flotyd was murdered which I found interesting. Notice any particular picture? |
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Post by esponja on Jan 25, 2021 9:34:16 GMT -5
Industrial agruculture and Glysophate is one of the worst things that could have happened to our foods. Watching Food Inc. turned my stomach about the food supply long ago I try not to think about it, to be honest with you  I know. I do what I cam and try not to stress about it all too much too. |
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Post by zazeniac on Jan 25, 2021 11:58:55 GMT -5
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Post by andrew on Jan 25, 2021 12:30:03 GMT -5
That. Was. Excellent. Best Hitler job I've seen yet 'Sir, it's undeniable, if you just self-enquire' ....'I could of been a tap dancer'
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2021 12:32:20 GMT -5
[...] I think capitalism is damaging and wouldn't be sorry to see the back of it, but [...] Isn't capitalism just what happens when you let people be free and leave them alone? In other words: 1. They trade stuff. I grow potatoes, you fix my car, we trade. 2. Add a currency (like dollars, euros) to make trading easier. Trade potatoes for dollars. Trade car repair for dollars. 3. Delayed trades, or investments. Someone says: I'm going sell potatoes but I need some money to buy the farm equipment. I'll trade you money now for a cut of my potato sales later. And there you have it: capitalism. Of course I believe in regulation. Some of the trades have side effects. Environmental pollution is a great example. But in general, anti-capitalism is so fashionable, and most of the time it's coming from people who talk and preach but never get off their duff to *do* anything. Implement your ideas! Show us how they work! In many cases they could do that without having to control the entire government and society as they claim. Eg, they could start a non-profit corporation. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2021 12:35:28 GMT -5
which Hitler are we talking about? the fascist leader whos authoritative regime rebuilt a broken country into a regional superpower.. or the crazy guy who wanted all jews dead? Ha. I'm no expert on Europe, but I heard some Europeans complaining about how powerful Germany is now. "I guess they were going to own Europe, one way or another." |
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Post by andrew on Jan 25, 2021 12:52:45 GMT -5
[...] I think capitalism is damaging and wouldn't be sorry to see the back of it, but [...] Isn't capitalism just what happens when you let people be free and leave them alone? In other words: 1. They trade stuff. I grow potatoes, you fix my car, we trade. 2. Add a currency (like dollars, euros) to make trading easier. Trade potatoes for dollars. Trade car repair for dollars. 3. Delayed trades, or investments. Someone says: I'm going sell potatoes but I need some money to buy the farm equipment. I'll trade you money now for a cut of my potato sales later. And there you have it: capitalism. Of course I believe in regulation. Some of the trades have side effects. Environmental pollution is a great example. But in general, anti-capitalism is so fashionable, and most of the time it's coming from people who talk and preach but never get off their duff to *do* anything. Implement your ideas! Show us how they work! In many cases they could do that without having to control the entire government and society as they claim. Eg, they could start a non-profit corporation. yep, I think you nailed it in point 1, in its essence. I would describe it as the arbitrary assigning of value to goods, which are then traded. As you say, it's basically 'I'll swap you 2 carrots for my potato' And actually I have no problem with gentle capitalism....a neighbourhood of 'mom and pop' shups is quite lovely. And I would say that capitalism of the last couple of hundred years has brought some good things with it. But I also subscribe to Marxism to the extent that I believe capitalism can only end up in one place...and that's precisely where we are now. I think Marx was wrong about the next step though, he foresaw an overthrow of capitalism to be replaced by communism, but what I see the corporations doing is using capitalism to their advantage to create a sort of weird hybrid neo-feudalism or corporate oligarchy. But ultimately I believe that capitalism is intrinsically flawed, because in my spiritual view, an essential truth is that there's NEVER 'actually' a shortage of resources. Everything in the universe is of absolute value. A rock is worth the same as a mansion. A leaf is worth the same as a sports car. As humans, we can...and do... manifest an experience of shortage, but in order to do so, we have to hold a false belief about the nature of the universe. Out of that experience of shortage, we trade. In my highest view of things, there's never any 'trading'. What we always have is also what we always want, and we manifest freely on that basis. There's no sense of lack, or shortage, no sense of need, no sense of how to figure out how to get something. No working for 'pay', no punishment and reward. We create and live out of inspiration and the joy of it At some point, I believe we will evolve beyond false belief. I don't know when. Or How exactly. And I don't need to know. So for now, I still carry the false belief and that's fine. I quite enjoy it to an extent, it's just part of our current human experience. I trade forex sometimes...it's something I quite enjoy. But I know it's false. There's no 'model' of economic and social organization that I can say I believe would work, but I find anarcho-communism interesting as an idea www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Anarchist_communism |
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Post by andrew on Jan 25, 2021 12:56:19 GMT -5
which Hitler are we talking about? the fascist leader whos authoritative regime rebuilt a broken country into a regional superpower.. or the crazy guy who wanted all jews dead? Ha. I'm no expert on Europe, but I heard some Europeans complaining about how powerful Germany is now. "I guess they were going to own Europe, one way or another." yes, the core Brexit group in the UK might be heard to say that. There's also suggestions (backed with a degree of evidence), that the EU was planned from the end of the 2nd world war, with Germany at the very heart of it. I can't say I know enough about this to have an opinion. What I DO know is that in Germany right now, they have segregation camps. It is strikingly ugly given their history. They are called 'quarantine' camps and are designed for those that break the rules. ''It's for your safety''. |
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Post by zazeniac on Jan 25, 2021 13:19:02 GMT -5
[...] I think capitalism is damaging and wouldn't be sorry to see the back of it, but [...] Isn't capitalism just what happens when you let people be free and leave them alone? In other words: 1. They trade stuff. I grow potatoes, you fix my car, we trade. 2. Add a currency (like dollars, euros) to make trading easier. Trade potatoes for dollars. Trade car repair for dollars. 3. Delayed trades, or investments. Someone says: I'm going sell potatoes but I need some money to buy the farm equipment. I'll trade you money now for a cut of my potato sales later. And there you have it: capitalism. Of course I believe in regulation. Some of the trades have side effects. Environmental pollution is a great example. But in general, anti-capitalism is so fashionable, and most of the time it's coming from people who talk and preach but never get off their duff to *do* anything. Implement your ideas! Show us how they work! In many cases they could do that without having to control the entire government and society as they claim. Eg, they could start a non-profit corporation. That's the utopian rendition. But if you're a starving potato farmer you're liable to sell your daughter to eat and if you're a wealthy garage owner, you just might buy her. Deifying capitalism is as dangerous as deifying socialism. Competition and cooperation are healthy approaches to problem solving when they start acquiring a magical aura, they become constraints. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2021 14:19:10 GMT -5
Isn't capitalism just what happens when you let people be free and leave them alone? In other words: 1. They trade stuff. I grow potatoes, you fix my car, we trade. 2. Add a currency (like dollars, euros) to make trading easier. Trade potatoes for dollars. Trade car repair for dollars. 3. Delayed trades, or investments. Someone says: I'm going sell potatoes but I need some money to buy the farm equipment. I'll trade you money now for a cut of my potato sales later. And there you have it: capitalism. Of course I believe in regulation. Some of the trades have side effects. Environmental pollution is a great example. But in general, anti-capitalism is so fashionable, and most of the time it's coming from people who talk and preach but never get off their duff to *do* anything. Implement your ideas! Show us how they work! In many cases they could do that without having to control the entire government and society as they claim. Eg, they could start a non-profit corporation. That's the utopian rendition. But if you're a starving potato farmer you're liable to sell your daughter to eat and if you're a wealthy garage owner, you just might buy her. Deifying capitalism is as dangerous as deifying socialism. Competition and cooperation are healthy approaches to problem solving when they start acquiring a magical aura, they become constraints. I didn't deify free market trading. I described the essence of trade (a form of cooperation), and I admitted to the need for (democratically elected) government regulation right there in my last paragraph. One of my main points is that to eliminate this false boogie man of "capitalism", you need near total control of other people's lives, which is gross and evil. Both competition and cooperation occur in a free market system. The starving farmer and prostitution seems like a straw man. After all, those things happen under all known economic systems. Do think there aren't prostitutes in socialist economies? This is another topic, but I wonder if prostitution should be legal. Associated crimes like child rape, kidnapping, etc., should of course remain illegal. But it seems absurd to police consensual adult sexual activity. "She can demand a diamond necklace, but if she demands paper currency - it's criminal!" |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2021 14:42:32 GMT -5
[...] But ultimately I believe that capitalism is intrinsically flawed, because in my spiritual view, an essential truth is that there's NEVER 'actually' a shortage of resources. Everything in the universe is of absolute value. A rock is worth the same as a mansion. A leaf is worth the same as a sports car. Excellent, if we ever meet I hope to trade you some rocks and leaves for your car and other objects.  |
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Post by andrew on Jan 25, 2021 15:27:20 GMT -5
[...] But ultimately I believe that capitalism is intrinsically flawed, because in my spiritual view, an essential truth is that there's NEVER 'actually' a shortage of resources. Everything in the universe is of absolute value. A rock is worth the same as a mansion. A leaf is worth the same as a sports car. Excellent, if we ever meet I hope to trade you some rocks and leaves for your car and other objects. I read a lovely story about Byron Katie once, I can't remember the details and can't find it again...I think it's in her new book, but in the story, she was selling something of value, and the person she was selling to commented on her house and said they wished they had it. So Katie just gave it to them. I might have it a bit wrong, I can't find it to double check, but that's the gist of it. Katie's pretty radical though. I'm not as radical. I might require some pretty decent rocks for a car trade! |
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Post by andrew on Jan 25, 2021 15:56:37 GMT -5
Interesting Byron Katie quote...''“I am as you are, the ghost of past/future.”
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Post by zazeniac on Jan 25, 2021 16:26:54 GMT -5
That's the utopian rendition. But if you're a starving potato farmer you're liable to sell your daughter to eat and if you're a wealthy garage owner, you just might buy her. Deifying capitalism is as dangerous as deifying socialism. Competition and cooperation are healthy approaches to problem solving when they start acquiring a magical aura, they become constraints. I didn't deify free market trading. I described the essence of trade (a form of cooperation), and I admitted to the need for (democratically elected) government regulation right there in my last paragraph. One of my main points is that to eliminate this false boogie man of "capitalism", you need near total control of other people's lives, which is gross and evil. Both competition and cooperation occur in a free market system. The starving farmer and prostitution seems like a straw man. After all, those things happen under all known economic systems. Do think there aren't prostitutes in socialist economies? This is another topic, but I wonder if prostitution should be legal. Associated crimes like child rape, kidnapping, etc., should of course remain illegal. But it seems absurd to police consensual adult sexual activity. "She can demand a diamond necklace, but if she demands paper currency - it's criminal!" This is true. Anti-trust laws, progressive taxes, social safety nets, environmental laws, plus keynesian interventions seem to make it workable. But many purists call these structural corrective remedies anti-capitalist. They believe these remedies are unnecessary, that markets can regulate themselves.The democracy component is unnecessary. There are many thriving capitalist countries that are not democracies. I'm not opposed to legalizing prostitution. I just think there's an inherent injustice in having to sell a daughter to feed your family. Here's an article in the la times about it. Prostitution |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2021 17:24:03 GMT -5
I didn't deify free market trading. I described the essence of trade (a form of cooperation), and I admitted to the need for (democratically elected) government regulation right there in my last paragraph. One of my main points is that to eliminate this false boogie man of "capitalism", you need near total control of other people's lives, which is gross and evil. Both competition and cooperation occur in a free market system. The starving farmer and prostitution seems like a straw man. After all, those things happen under all known economic systems. Do think there aren't prostitutes in socialist economies? This is another topic, but I wonder if prostitution should be legal. Associated crimes like child rape, kidnapping, etc., should of course remain illegal. But it seems absurd to police consensual adult sexual activity. "She can demand a diamond necklace, but if she demands paper currency - it's criminal!" This is true. Anti-trust laws, progressive taxes, social safety nets, environmental laws, plus keynesian interventions seem to make it workable. But many purists call these structural corrective remedies anti-capitalist. They believe these remedies are unnecessary, that markets can regulate themselves.The democracy component is unnecessary. There are many thriving capitalist countries that are not democracies. I'm not opposed to legalizing prostitution. I just think there's an inherent injustice in having to sell a daughter to feed your family. Here's an article in the la times about it. Prostitution of those "corrections" you mention can be unnecessary. It's tricky. In my industry for example, I remember in the 1990s everyone clamoring for the government to break up Microsoft. (Eg, anti-trust laws) They said it was horrible, and they were somewhat right. The government started to move, but never really did. The "market" (ie, people) solved the problem, and the solutions were better and more creative than what the government was planning. So it's a balance, but sometimes we are rewarded if we have the patience to wait for a solution without government control. The government threat may have helped push back Microsoft; otherwise they might have tried harder to stifle the internet. This seems relevant now given some of the recent whining about "big tech". Obviously selling another person is not prostitution; it's slavery. And the article mentions women getting beaten, drugged, chained, and raped. Those are crimes independent of prostitution. If this were the fault of capitalism, we wouldn't see Venezuelan women flooding into Colombia to work that way. |
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