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Post by andrew on Jan 23, 2021 5:31:51 GMT -5
It's like you're baiting me ... (I'm sure this wasn't on your mind  ). No matter who's overseeing your health, no matter their competency, your health is only the reflections of your thoughts, emotions, limiting beliefs. Two fold: - your thoughts and emotions about your own health
- your general emotional state: fear, anger, hate are detrimental to your well-being, including your health
When you're ill, that is always a symbolic message that your thoughts are wrong. How about kids with cancer and other serious illnesses? Did they have negative thoughts and give themselves tumors? How about someone who is 97 and dies of cancer? If they'd only had the correct thoughts, they would have lived another 10 years? They are valid questions, and personally, it's why I take a slightly different view to Invalan, but not significantly different. I would say that 'belief' operates on different levels, some of which are really deep....I mean, there is a very deep level at which we could say the belief in time and space are held. Some beliefs are 'necessarily' there, so that we can have the experience we are having. But I don't mind saying that in order to develop cancer or illness....in fact in order for all of us to manifest the pandemic and the totalitarian control responses by government, we each have to be agree to hold in place, on some level, some false beliefs. I could speculate about what those are perhaps. But, it can be perfectly appropriate to hold a false belief.... it might be in some way, serving others for us to hold that false belief. Relationships are messy and complex, and certainly I've held false beliefs in place at quite a superficial level at times because I have discerned it to be appropriate. Ultimately though, I believe our paths, individually and collectively is to shine the light of Truth in such way that false beliefs are illuminated and released. I believe the pandemic and totalitarian responses are a very good prompt for people to do that |
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Post by andrew on Jan 23, 2021 6:15:39 GMT -5
That's a little funny to me, because I see a lot of folks saying that about the vaccines  Aside from any spiritual views I might have about them, my concern with the vaccines is more along the lines that I could imagine a scenario when new strains come along, new coronaviruses, and folks are lining up for vaccines every couple of months. I don't think it's necessarily my 'spirituality' that sees that as a problematic scenario (and of course new strains and viruses give governments reason to lockdown again while the new and improved vaccines are being prepared) They will be handing vaccines out like they did antibiotics and look what that did to the immune system . I have heard that people have caught the virus after having been vaccinated and a few have died . You don't hear that on the mainstream news daily do you I hear that you can take up to 3 vaccines (as well as the flu vaccine) as well as prescribed medication lol . And even with all this being said and done they can't rule out more restrictions and lockdowns next winter and the need to keep on vaccinating . The whole xmas thing really did show the governments stupidity . One minute conditions are likened to the plague and the next minute its okay for family gatherings because it's xmas I can't remember what sci fi film it was in, or perhaps it was one of the avengers films where there was a scene captured in a city where electric billboards were lit up everywhere, a virus shape similar to the logo used today, a bottle of corona and a mask .  This was filmed prior to the virus being created, which hasn't even been investigated . Corbyns brother on mainstream news was ripped to pieces because he asked the government to actually prove that the virus exists . They didn't actually listen and answer the questions given to them .. This is what I mean in that the virus needs to be isolated in order for a vaccine to be created . As far as I know the government hasn't proved what covid actually is lol . The nightingale make shift hospitals is another thing isn't it, likened to the massive hospitals built in china that were empty and never used for purpose . Apparently one of the nightingale hospitals has been slowly dismantled for months now and yet again, there was a surge in mainstream news that hospitals were at breaking point . People being left in ambulances in the streets etc . My sister was in hospital having a wire removed from her broken finger and she said you wouldn't know there is a pandemic going on . Yes there's so much that is just....fishy. I've also seen the question about whether the virus has been isolated, I have actually seen studies where it looks like it has been, but then other folks talk about 'Koch's postulates'....quite honestly, I'm just not 'expert' enough to know about this side of things. And 'Nightingale'...yes So many questions. I don't know which of them are just terribly inept and corrupt in a typical politician way, and which of them have allegiances to broader globalist interests. And the ongoing psychological manipulation with the constant bombardment of adverts and stupid government speeches.... is just....unbelievable. I don't watch any of them, and as soon as an advert comes on the tv or radio, I turn over straight away. It's blatant NLP. I would say the most effective thing the government has done, is to brainwash people into blaming each other! |
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Post by andrew on Jan 23, 2021 6:23:20 GMT -5
yes. I've looked into all these issues very closely, and with as much self-honesty as I can. In 2019, I voted Corbyn, and basically supported 'socialism'. And yet at this point, I feel that the idea of a 'greater good' is extremely dangerous, and it is this idea that is at core of the insanity and fear and hysteria we are seeing. It's an idea that has been cleverly marketed by governments, leaders and media in many countries. 'The greater good' is a very abstract intellectual idea....it neither applies to the animal kingdom, and has no relevance from a spiritual perspective, in which we are encouraged to 'be the change we wish to see', and to know that the world is a creative expression of our consciousness, beliefs, feelings. People are battering each other over the heads with this idea of 'the greater good'. It's creating huge anxiety, stress, anger, guilt, shame. ''Wear your mask! Look after me!''. These same people aren't even looking after themselves excellently! Another interesting aspect I've considered. I see people around the world taking big risks when following their passions, interests, and what excites them. I mean, tons of people engage with dangerous sports. How many get in a dangerous car each day and drive somewhere?! And yet, when folks are doing what they love, they are fine with the risks, in fact the risk is sort of integral to the joy of the experience. So I wonder, is it possible that, in general, people just don't enjoy their lives enough to be willing to live with risk? It's easy to accept lockdown if one doesn't like their job, their office, their daily commute, going shopping etc. Or if they are sick of social engagements that they don't really want to partake in. So perhaps there's a truth here, that as a species, we just don't enjoy our lives enough to be willing to take risks. There are positives I see coming out of the collective experience though. I think people are looking more closely at what they really want, and what makes them happy. I think they're considering what it means to be free, to be sovereign. They are thinking about the nature of responsibility and kindness. What it means to be alive and human. Good things to think about. The greater good .. For whom .. Basically the greater good can only come from a place of actuality and truth . If the mainstream news isn't actual then there cannot be a greater good related to it . It's a non starter as I say often . The foundation has to be right to begin with . Anxiety and mental health conditions are through the roof, as are suicides and like you say, people have been turning on each other, the police have been arresting people for walking in the park, sitting on benches .. There must be 10 thousand videos on YouTube of the police carrying out these ridiculous restraints . Who could imagine that an old lady could be arrested for minding her own business sitting on a bench with a flask of hot tea a year ago, when knife crimes in London where out of control and not being policed .. During the first lockdown one of my boys visited another in their garden for it was his birthday . The police were called out and they were there in a flash . He had his car hit by a hit and run driver which was someone who lived down his street . This bloke hid his damaged car a mile away . My son found the car and fronted him out . The bloke was high as a kite, was still pissed and admitted it all . My boy phoned the police about it and they said just go through the insurance as he has admitted it . How many actual crimes had taken place and they wasn't even interested lol . yes, a guy I was friendly with while working in Spain some years ago took his life in December. Police arresting people for sitting on park benches with a coffee. There's some awful stuff happening, and yet I do feel there is an 'awakening' of sorts happening. People are being forced to look within at what really matters to them. I'm doubtful that 'life' as we knew it, is coming back. Even if/when the pubs and restaurants are allowed to open, I feel like people have been changed by what's happened. I don't think people recognize how traumatized they are, and that there will have to be healing. But, people need the space to heal. With the constant barrage of 'new mutations', 'new tier systems', people aren't given that space. It will come though, it has to. |
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Post by andrew on Jan 23, 2021 8:11:14 GMT -5
Please don't make me watch that guy! There are some people I just can't listen to, and they also include Trump, Biden, Boris Johnson. Can you summarize the basic point? It did make me think of this lovely family photo which includes 'legends' such as David Rockefeller, George Soros, Bill Gates Sr, Ted Turner...and probably others that you know better than me. As Carlin said....''It's a club, and you ain't in it!''  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2021 8:30:28 GMT -5
They will be handing vaccines out like they did antibiotics and look what that did to the immune system . I have heard that people have caught the virus after having been vaccinated and a few have died . You don't hear that on the mainstream news daily do you I hear that you can take up to 3 vaccines (as well as the flu vaccine) as well as prescribed medication lol . And even with all this being said and done they can't rule out more restrictions and lockdowns next winter and the need to keep on vaccinating . The whole xmas thing really did show the governments stupidity . One minute conditions are likened to the plague and the next minute its okay for family gatherings because it's xmas I can't remember what sci fi film it was in, or perhaps it was one of the avengers films where there was a scene captured in a city where electric billboards were lit up everywhere, a virus shape similar to the logo used today, a bottle of corona and a mask . This was filmed prior to the virus being created, which hasn't even been investigated . Corbyns brother on mainstream news was ripped to pieces because he asked the government to actually prove that the virus exists . They didn't actually listen and answer the questions given to them .. This is what I mean in that the virus needs to be isolated in order for a vaccine to be created . As far as I know the government hasn't proved what covid actually is lol . The nightingale make shift hospitals is another thing isn't it, likened to the massive hospitals built in china that were empty and never used for purpose . Apparently one of the nightingale hospitals has been slowly dismantled for months now and yet again, there was a surge in mainstream news that hospitals were at breaking point . People being left in ambulances in the streets etc . My sister was in hospital having a wire removed from her broken finger and she said you wouldn't know there is a pandemic going on . Yes there's so much that is just....fishy. I've also seen the question about whether the virus has been isolated, I have actually seen studies where it looks like it has been, but then other folks talk about 'Koch's postulates'....quite honestly, I'm just not 'expert' enough to know about this side of things. And 'Nightingale'...yes So many questions. I don't know which of them are just terribly inept and corrupt in a typical politician way, and which of them have allegiances to broader globalist interests. And the ongoing psychological manipulation with the constant bombardment of adverts and stupid government speeches.... is just....unbelievable. I don't watch any of them, and as soon as an advert comes on the tv or radio, I turn over straight away. It's blatant NLP. I would say the most effective thing the government has done, is to brainwash people into blaming each other! If people didn't trust their neighbours and the younger generations before Covid, then they are not going to during it. |
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Post by andrew on Jan 23, 2021 8:46:11 GMT -5
Yes there's so much that is just....fishy. I've also seen the question about whether the virus has been isolated, I have actually seen studies where it looks like it has been, but then other folks talk about 'Koch's postulates'....quite honestly, I'm just not 'expert' enough to know about this side of things. And 'Nightingale'...yes So many questions. I don't know which of them are just terribly inept and corrupt in a typical politician way, and which of them have allegiances to broader globalist interests. And the ongoing psychological manipulation with the constant bombardment of adverts and stupid government speeches.... is just....unbelievable. I don't watch any of them, and as soon as an advert comes on the tv or radio, I turn over straight away. It's blatant NLP. I would say the most effective thing the government has done, is to brainwash people into blaming each other! If people didn't trust their neighbours and the younger generations before Covid, then they are not going to during it. yes, I think government propaganda has amplified and 'played on' tensions that were already existing. Social relations haven't been great for a few years with Brexit n' all. |
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Post by andrew on Jan 23, 2021 9:05:28 GMT -5
Please don't make me watch that guy! There are some people I just can't listen to, and they also include Trump, Biden, Boris Johnson. Can you summarize the basic point? It did make me think of this lovely family photo which includes 'legends' such as David Rockefeller, George Soros, Bill Gates Sr, Ted Turner...and probably others that you know better than me. As Carlin said....''It's a club, and you ain't in it!'' I understand. "aberrancy" sums it up But yes! the George Soros and Bill Gates angle is one of the the funniest parts of the story! We need our conspiracy thread back! we do! But putting conspiracies to one side, that's a philanthropy association in the photo. If we assume that they have 'noble intentions' (just as bloody Hitler did too, to point out), are those 'noble intentions' ones that actually serve humanity? I trust that Eckhart Tolle and Byron Katie etc are genuinely serving the world through their choices. Because they're awake, conscious, and 'know' who they are at the deeper level. I question whether this gang of people's 'noble intentions' COULD serve the world, given that they are inevitably coming from a place of deep unconsciousness, a want for control, and fear. Bill Gates, today's best known 'philanthropist', may have a noble intention...for example, perhaps if we treat everyone like they are a computer, and give them the correct software, then that will fix all human problems. I think perhaps 'philanthropy' itself is a very flawed idea, and I don't believe 'technocracy' is what the world needs. More spirituality is probably what the world needs. |
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Post by zazeniac on Jan 23, 2021 9:27:21 GMT -5
Can't wait for Bill to implant a microchip in my arm. Maybe I can be reminded then, electronically, to set the toilet seat back down so it doesn't swallow up my wife in the middle of the night. As to the Democrats stealing the election, I'm just sorry they were as inept at that as they are at most things. They should have done it right and had super majorities in both houses. Yes, I am a reptile underneath it all and a drone of the illuminati. I obey their every command through the hearing aid in my left ear. Resistancw is futile, you will be assimilated.
BTW, Ramana is alive and well living in Brazil with JFK, Elvis, Mueller and Q, waiting for Trump to join them so he can lead "The Storm."
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Post by andrew on Jan 23, 2021 10:09:18 GMT -5
we do! But putting conspiracies to one side, that's a philanthropy association in the photo. If we assume that they have 'noble intentions' (just as bloody Hitler did too, to point out), are those 'noble intentions' ones that actually serve humanity? I trust that Eckhart Tolle and Byron Katie etc are genuinely serving the world through their choices. Because they're awake, conscious, and 'know' who they are at the deeper level. I question whether this gang of people's 'noble intentions' COULD serve the world, given that they are inevitably coming from a place of deep unconsciousness, a want for control, and fear. Bill Gates, today's best known 'philanthropist', may have a noble intention...for example, perhaps if we treat everyone like they are a computer, and give them the correct software, then that will fix all human problems. I think perhaps 'philanthropy' itself is a very flawed idea, and I don't believe 'technocracy' is what the world needs. More spirituality is probably what the world needs. Rich folks have oversized influence, that's for sure But I don't know what noble intentions means exactly I mean, when someone wants to put something in place 'for the good of society' or 'for the good of the world'. For example, Hitler was acting in what he saw as 'the good of Germany' (and had science to back it up too). I don't think powerful people in general gleefully rub their hands together and sit around thinking about how to be most evil! I think they tend to be thinking....''this is the right thing to do, the best thing to do''. Of course, much then depends on their philosophy and existential beliefs. For example, a technocrat philanthropist will be thinking about how AI can save the world. It's just an example. I'm not sure the most influential people of the world are necessarily 'wise' in their thinking. |
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Post by andrew on Jan 23, 2021 10:13:47 GMT -5
Which is a better approach to life?
Affirming your health each day, and appreciating your amazing body and immune system that supports you?
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Taking medicine every morning even though you seem to be healthy, in order to ward off the potential of future illnesses?
I would only ask spiritually oriented people this question.
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Post by andrew on Jan 23, 2021 10:15:33 GMT -5
I mean, when someone wants to put something in place 'for the good of society' or 'for the good of the world'. For example, Hitler was acting in what he saw as 'the good of Germany' (and had science to back it up too). I don't think powerful people in general gleefully rub their hands together and sit around thinking about how to be most evil! I think they tend to be thinking....''this is the right thing to do, the best thing to do''. Of course, much then depends on their philosophy and existential beliefs. For example, a technocrat philanthropist will be thinking about how AI can save the world. It's just an example. I'm not sure the most influential people of the world are necessarily 'wise' in their thinking. People are complex, often neurotic, creatures and the world manifests as we create it yes, that's actually very close to how I see it |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2021 12:06:32 GMT -5
I've been very down on "education" for years. I disliked public school, and I feel 90% of it was a waste of time, or even soul crushing and abusive. But... I also remember learning about some fascinating, inspiring, really cool things. For example: cell biology, in high school and later in college. I never agree with the silly "God vs Science" stuff. What humanity has discovered about DNA, RNA, proteins, microscopic cellular processes and biochemistry, the immune system, etc – it's just awesome, elegant, mind blowing – and it makes me appreciate more the Nature/Creation/Whatever. And it doesn't need to lead to a closed-minded "know it all" attitude.
It also think that some education about this builds some trust in the scientific community, when you see the painstaking and rational process they use, and the spirit of discovery and curiosity that has been operating for years. Of course that scientific community isn't perfect, and there are politics and other issues and mistakes. I've seen dumb or corrupt garbage published in scientific journals. So you can absolutely question it, and dig, and do more research. Just don't throw out the baby with the bathwater, as the saying goes.
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Post by andrew on Jan 23, 2021 12:16:26 GMT -5
I've been very down on "education" for years. I disliked public school, and I feel 90% of it was a waste of time, or even soul crushing and abusive. But... I also remember learning about some fascinating, inspiring, really cool things. For example: cell biology, in high school and later in college. I never agree with the silly "God vs Science" stuff. What humanity has discovered about DNA, RNA, proteins, microscopic cellular processes and biochemistry, the immune system, etc – it's just awesome, elegant, mind blowing – and it makes me appreciate more the Nature/Creation/Whatever. And it doesn't need to lead to a closed-minded "know it all" attitude. It also think that some education about this builds some trust in the scientific community, when you see the painstaking and rational process they use, and the spirit of discovery and curiosity that has been operating for years. Of course that scientific community isn't perfect, and there are politics and other issues and mistakes. I've seen dumb or corrupt garbage published in scientific journals. So you can absolutely question it, and dig, and do more research. Just don't throw out the baby with the bathwater, as the saying goes. yes good advice Perhaps I should clarify that it's not my intention to disparage science or technology....science/technology that is created and used with love is an absolutely amazing thing. Processes of science themselves are, as you say, awesome, elegant and mind blowing. My concern is more about power dynamics and science/technology that is created and used out of fear and ego. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2021 12:46:50 GMT -5
I've been very down on "education" for years. I disliked public school, and I feel 90% of it was a waste of time, or even soul crushing and abusive. But... I also remember learning about some fascinating, inspiring, really cool things. For example: cell biology, in high school and later in college. I never agree with the silly "God vs Science" stuff. What humanity has discovered about DNA, RNA, proteins, microscopic cellular processes and biochemistry, the immune system, etc – it's just awesome, elegant, mind blowing – and it makes me appreciate more the Nature/Creation/Whatever. And it doesn't need to lead to a closed-minded "know it all" attitude. It also think that some education about this builds some trust in the scientific community, when you see the painstaking and rational process they use, and the spirit of discovery and curiosity that has been operating for years. Of course that scientific community isn't perfect, and there are politics and other issues and mistakes. I've seen dumb or corrupt garbage published in scientific journals. So you can absolutely question it, and dig, and do more research. Just don't throw out the baby with the bathwater, as the saying goes. yes good advice Perhaps I should clarify that it's not my intention to disparage science or technology....science/technology that is created and used with love is an absolutely amazing thing. Processes of science themselves are, as you say, awesome, elegant and mind blowing. My concern is more about power dynamics and science/technology that is created and used out of fear and ego. Yeah, I hear you. When people don't or can't see what science is, they sometimes treat it like a new religion, complete with shallow dogmas, inquisitions, witch hunts, etc. Or it's merely a word parroted by political types to beat on their opponents. |
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Post by Reefs on Jan 23, 2021 13:16:04 GMT -5
Can't wait for Bill to implant a microchip in my arm. Maybe I can be reminded then, electronically, to set the toilet seat back down so it doesn't swallow up my wife in the middle of the night. As to the Democrats stealing the election, I'm just sorry they were as inept at that as they are at most things. They should have done it right and had super majorities in both houses. Yes, I am a reptile underneath it all and a drone of the illuminati. I obey their every command through the hearing aid in my left ear. Resistancw is futile, you will be assimilated. BTW, Ramana is alive and well living in Brazil with JFK, Elvis, Mueller and Q, waiting for Trump to join them so he can lead "The Storm." as so it was prophesied  That's a really good picture because it captures a key event in world history and also gives some hints about the next higher level of reality many here are not even aware of because you will never see it explained in the news media. "All the world's a stage" as they say, and whatever happens on that stage happens for a reason. Below are some more pictures that captured key events on that stage and that should make it clear that things are not really what they seem, that the stories we get presented in the news media are just that, stories. Now, we are all looking at the exact same stage, but we all see different things and react differently to whatever happens on that stage based on how we make sense of what's happening there. And how we make sense of what's happening there depends on what stories we find most conclusive. And depending on our own level of awareness, we will find some narratives more conclusive than others. The narrative that is aimed at the people with the lowest level of awareness is presented in the MSM (blue pill). This narrative is very simplistic and allows only for very basic explanations of events. In fact, a lot of events that are happening on the stage actually can't be explained on that level. Whenever that happens, you will see certain topics either totally ignored or declared taboo in order to keep the narrative between these well-defined, very narrow lines. But not everyone feels comfortable in such a tiny mental box. And for those people there exist more complex stories (red pill), usually presented by non-MSM sources, that are almost as easily available as the MSM sources, but which are not promoted in the way the MSM narrative is promoted (one has to go look for them, although some just show up magically the suggested video column on youtube). And while the red pill narrative is able to explain a lot more events that are happening on the stage than the blue pill narrative, most red pill narratives have one big disadvantage: instead of just expanding the blue pill perspective by simply adding more details, they turn the blue pill perspective on its head and by doing so, the two narratives, instead of enhancing each other, they become incompatible. And the red pill narrative, in the end, is also just a story, and similar to the blue pill narrative, designed to direct attention along a certain path into a certain direction. So some people at some point will even find that rather roomy mental box as too limiting. And there is indeed another level beyond the red pill level. But unlike on the red pill level, here it is extremely difficult to find any sources at all. And if one is lucky enough to find them, they often disappear after a while because they rarely get shared or copied. And on that level of the narrative, one doesn't just gain more insights on the sequence and mechanics of the events unfolding on the stage, but the stage itself, its dimensions and function. So here are some more images of key world events that have the potential of taking one's understanding to the next level:       Now, all these events happened on the stage, for everyone to see. And I think we all know the lowest level explanation of these events (MSM), some may even know the next higher level explanation (anons). But what do these events really mean? And who are these people, really? How did they get on that stage? And most importantly: what does that all have to do with us? |
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