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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2019 10:38:54 GMT -5
Yes. The separate, you, me, her, him, it, is the charade. "I am he as you are he as you are me, And we are all together." Life is a beautiful poem unless you resist it. Ramana knew he's the ego. He never claimed he's the seer. Nobody in this world can declare he knows in full the seer. Nobody can be equal to or greater than the seer. Ramana's intelligence evolved because he came in contact with the seer after so many years of practice seeking the seer from within his heart. There in his heart he saw the seer. Then he cried. With tears in Ramana's eye he knew who the seer was ever since he was a child . The bluish black complexioned boy playing music with his flute herding his Surabhi cows in the forest of Vrndavan. I believe it was Ramana who said "to know God is to be God." Now I concede that this is a dangerous thing to say.
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Post by krsnaraja on Feb 19, 2019 10:49:34 GMT -5
Ramana knew he's the ego. He never claimed he's the seer. Nobody in this world can declare he knows in full the seer. Nobody can be equal to or greater than the seer. Ramana's intelligence evolved because he came in contact with the seer after so many years of practice seeking the seer from within his heart. There in his heart he saw the seer. Then he cried. With tears in Ramana's eye he knew who the seer was ever since he was a child . The bluish black complexioned boy playing music with his flute herding his Surabhi cows in the forest of Vrndavan. I believe it was Ramana who said "to know God is to be God." Now I concede that this is a dangerous thing to say. Yes, precisely. It's a dangerous thing to say he's God. Ramana said that because he knew he's the ego. Preachers and Gurus who say they are laugh all the way to the bank. Ramana did not do that He was only kidding with his disciples. He wanted his pupils not take life seriously. Because the one they were seeking is everywhere. Reminds me of Bilvamangala Thakur author of Krsna caritamrta. Very beautiful story.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2019 11:03:30 GMT -5
I believe it was Ramana who said "to know God is to be God." Now I concede that this is a dangerous thing to say. Yes, precisely. It's a dangerous thing to say he's God. Ramana said that because he knew he's the ego. Preachers and Gurus who say they are laugh all the way to the bank. Ramana did not do that He was only kidding with his disciples. He wanted his pupils not take life seriously. Because the one they were seeking is everywhere. Reminds me of Bilvamangala Thakur author of Krsna caritamrta. Very beautiful story. I mispoke. It's not dangerous to say. For some, it is a dangerous thing to believe. Folks who are God, no longer identified with the body/mind, are the humblest of folk. A person with a God complex is a danger. But we can agree to disagree. We are approaching the same thing from different directions.
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Post by enigma on Feb 19, 2019 11:05:42 GMT -5
"Brain chemistry does not alter thought," says Enigma. So, what happens when couples do sex? Here's an article written by Hallie Gould in the Journal The Thirty. "There's an increase in blood flow triggered by a surge in nitric oxide in your body during sex—which is why you may notice parts of your body flush. This is also why your nipples become more sensitive and erect," explains Brahmbhatt. "Depending on how rigorous the sex, your pulse, blood pressure, and breathing will continue to increase. Dopamine and epinephrine (the adrenaline hormone) continue to rise during sex, and, as you get closer to climax, the muscles throughout your body may start to tense up due to changes in your cerebellum." Plus, sex boosts your immune system as well as confidence and creativity. A Wilkes University study showed that people having sex once or twice a week had a 30% increase in immunoglobulin A, which strengthens immunity. And, "studies have shown sex and meditation light up similar areas in the brain," says Kim Anami, a holistic sex and relationship expert and founder of Anami Alchemia. "Both sex and meditation help you to you feel at one with yourself and the world, your intuition is strengthened, you feel more creative and able to tackle problems with a relaxed mind." Nothing in physicality is the cause for something else to happen. Cause/effect is an illusion created within the dream.
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Post by enigma on Feb 19, 2019 11:15:14 GMT -5
"Brain chemistry does not alter thought," says Enigma. So, what happens when couples do sex? Here's an article written by Hallie Gould in the Journal The Thirty. "There's an increase in blood flow triggered by a surge in nitric oxide in your body during sex—which is why you may notice parts of your body flush. This is also why your nipples become more sensitive and erect," explains Brahmbhatt. "Depending on how rigorous the sex, your pulse, blood pressure, and breathing will continue to increase. Dopamine and epinephrine (the adrenaline hormone) continue to rise during sex, and, as you get closer to climax, the muscles throughout your body may start to tense up due to changes in your cerebellum." Plus, sex boosts your immune system as well as confidence and creativity. A Wilkes University study showed that people having sex once or twice a week had a 30% increase in immunoglobulin A, which strengthens immunity. And, "studies have shown sex and meditation light up similar areas in the brain," says Kim Anami, a holistic sex and relationship expert and founder of Anami Alchemia. "Both sex and meditation help you to you feel at one with yourself and the world, your intuition is strengthened, you feel more creative and able to tackle problems with a relaxed mind." That's really part of the charade, part of no-thing masquerading as everything, to suck you into the dream, to make it believable. But you are not the body. If you look for "I" even in the sexual experience, you will not find "I." "I" can never be an object in the field of experience, because if it is, then who is experiencing "I"? The same way that God can can never be an object in the field of experience, because if He is, then He is bound, limited, by time and space. That' why if you meet the Buddha, he is an imposter. "God is the 'seer'" as Ramana says. Now as the Bible says, "give Ceasar what is Ceasar's, and God what is God's." Translated this means that because you "see" through the charade, you don't stop using toilet paper. Zackly. It can be realized that it's not possible for the subject to become an object; for existence to objectify itself. The fact that 'we' have come to believe that such a thing is possible is really rather remarkable.
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Post by krsnaraja on Feb 19, 2019 11:18:47 GMT -5
"Brain chemistry does not alter thought," says Enigma. So, what happens when couples do sex? Here's an article written by Hallie Gould in the Journal The Thirty. "There's an increase in blood flow triggered by a surge in nitric oxide in your body during sex—which is why you may notice parts of your body flush. This is also why your nipples become more sensitive and erect," explains Brahmbhatt. "Depending on how rigorous the sex, your pulse, blood pressure, and breathing will continue to increase. Dopamine and epinephrine (the adrenaline hormone) continue to rise during sex, and, as you get closer to climax, the muscles throughout your body may start to tense up due to changes in your cerebellum." Plus, sex boosts your immune system as well as confidence and creativity. A Wilkes University study showed that people having sex once or twice a week had a 30% increase in immunoglobulin A, which strengthens immunity. And, "studies have shown sex and meditation light up similar areas in the brain," says Kim Anami, a holistic sex and relationship expert and founder of Anami Alchemia. "Both sex and meditation help you to you feel at one with yourself and the world, your intuition is strengthened, you feel more creative and able to tackle problems with a relaxed mind." Nothing in physicality is the cause for something else to happen. Cause/effect is an illusion created within the dream. Maybe we could play one of these days a game of 8 ball pool/billiard.
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Post by enigma on Feb 19, 2019 11:39:00 GMT -5
That's the funny part of it. Why jugement is a necessary farce. The husband, wife and wife's lover are the one masquerading as many. I look at this way, life is a beautiful poem, this stuff about the charade is its hidden meaning. You can't really appreciate, "see," the meaning without reading the poem, without living life fully. What I know is we only have one life. We are never too sure where we go at death. The seer knows where we go because it knows our past, present and future. This seer is in its dual form is Krsna. Life without seer /Krsna will not make a beautiful poem rhyme. You the ego is the charade. Once you know you are the ego then go with the flow , not to slow not too fast. Afterall its Krsna who does the directing and orchestrating with our individual life poems and charades. Lyrics from a song, "Are you really happy with this lonely game we play. We're lost in this masquerade." In truth, there is nowhere to go.
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Post by enigma on Feb 19, 2019 11:45:44 GMT -5
I believe it was Ramana who said "to know God is to be God." Now I concede that this is a dangerous thing to say. Yes, precisely. It's a dangerous thing to say he's God. Ramana said that because he knew he's the ego. Preachers and Gurus who say they are laugh all the way to the bank. Ramana did not do that He was only kidding with his disciples. He wanted his pupils not take life seriously. Because the one they were seeking is everywhere. Reminds me of Bilvamangala Thakur author of Krsna caritamrta. Very beautiful story. He was not kidding. (see sig)
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Post by enigma on Feb 19, 2019 11:53:10 GMT -5
Nothing in physicality is the cause for something else to happen. Cause/effect is an illusion created within the dream. Maybe we could play one of these days a game of 8 ball pool/billiard. No person or billiard ball causes another billiard ball to move. Where is God in your equation? Is he just the one making the billiard balls? Then he drops them on the table and lets you run the universe for a while? You never get to play God. Only God gets to play God.
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Post by krsnaraja on Feb 19, 2019 16:32:54 GMT -5
Maybe we could play one of these days a game of 8 ball pool/billiard. No person or billiard ball causes another billiard ball to move. Where is God in your equation? Is he just the one making the billiard balls? Then he drops them on the table and lets you run the universe for a while? You never get to play God. Only God gets to play God. We are the cue sticks. It's God who does the pushing.
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Post by enigma on Feb 19, 2019 19:59:13 GMT -5
No person or billiard ball causes another billiard ball to move. Where is God in your equation? Is he just the one making the billiard balls? Then he drops them on the table and lets you run the universe for a while? You never get to play God. Only God gets to play God. We are the cue sticks. It's God who does the pushing. I suggest God IS the pushing, and also the movement of the balls.
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Post by krsnaraja on Feb 19, 2019 20:26:27 GMT -5
We are the cue sticks. It's God who does the pushing. I suggest God IS the pushing, and also the movement of the balls. God's the energy that produces the action.
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Post by enigma on Feb 19, 2019 20:28:43 GMT -5
Zackly. It can be realized that it's not possible for the subject to become an object; for existence to objectify itself. The fact that 'we' have come to believe that such a thing is possible is really rather remarkable.Sayeth the man that says anything is possible. All things are possible in the dream simply because it is a dream. All things are not possible in actuality. For example, multiplicity cannot be actually true, as Oneness cannot be actually divided. K's personal God cannot be actually true. Subjectivity being able to objectify itself cannot be actually true. It can only seem so.
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Post by enigma on Feb 19, 2019 20:33:06 GMT -5
I suggest God IS the pushing, and also the movement of the balls. God's the energy that produces the action. Okay, but that means all action. Not just the action of apparent cause, but also the action of apparent effect. This means God is the cause of both cause and effect, not billiard balls.
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Post by krsnaraja on Feb 19, 2019 22:04:03 GMT -5
God's the energy that produces the action. Okay, but that means all action. Not just the action of apparent cause, but also the action of apparent effect. This means God is the cause of both cause and effect, not billiard balls. God's also present in the billiard balls as inert energy.
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