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Post by Reefs on Apr 13, 2017 3:51:07 GMT -5
That would be reintroducing what we are trying to get rid of. We've got enough controversy already and we are still in the middle of a transition phase. So the less distraction, the better. A basic tone or vibration has to be established. Once that's done, the forum will run on its own and only keep and attract those people that are in alignment with that basic tone or vibration. So I'll be moderating a bit more hands on for a month or two until things are stable enough and everyone knows exactly what is okay and what isn't and then I'll just let the forum be. The final goal is no moderation whatsoever and let LOA do the work instead. Similar to what is said in the Daodejing about the highest form of governing a country. But that requires a mature community. And we are not quite there yet. But so far I can say it looks very promising. And we've basically been there once already, so it can be done again. Will there be a locking down of this thread then? spiritualteachers.proboards.com/thread/4198/con-spear-seasThat would seem to be the right choice of action for that kind of thread but when I look into my mod toolbox it seems that lock down tool is missing. What I can do with threads is either make them sticky, move them or delete them. I'll have to ask Peter and ZD and see what's up with that missing locking threads feature. |
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Post by maxdprophet on Apr 13, 2017 6:58:44 GMT -5
That would seem to be the right choice of action for that kind of thread but when I look into my mod toolbox it seems that lock down tool is missing. What I can do with threads is either make them sticky, move them or delete them. I'll have to ask Peter and ZD and see what's up with that missing locking threads feature. I'm just imagining the 'cover up' claims ensuing with moderation of that thread  . The truth is out there! |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Apr 13, 2017 7:09:03 GMT -5
I'm just asking reefs why the need to slice and dice up the world and limit discussion to the "spiritual", and it's past my bedtime.... That would be reintroducing what we are trying to get rid of. We've got enough controversy already and we are still in the middle of a transition phase. So the less distraction, the better. A basic tone or vibration has to be established. Once that's done, the forum will run on its own and only keep and attract those people that are in alignment with that basic tone or vibration. So I'll be moderating a bit more hands on for a month or two until things are stable enough and everyone knows exactly what is okay and what isn't and then I'll just let the forum be. The final goal is no moderation whatsoever and let LOA do the work instead. Similar to what is said in the Daodejing about the highest form of governing a country. But that requires a mature community. And we are not quite there yet. But so far I can say it looks very promising. And we've basically been there once already, so it can be done again. OK, so does this mean the Bhagavad Gita is off limits, the discussion between Arjuna and Krishna where Arjuna is concerned about making war on his friends family? (Seriously, you've basically cut my legs out from under me, because all this discussion about stuff only happening in consciousness, IOW, nobody really dies, is a major issue with me. Do people die or not?) |
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Post by maxdprophet on Apr 13, 2017 7:13:01 GMT -5
That would be reintroducing what we are trying to get rid of. We've got enough controversy already and we are still in the middle of a transition phase. So the less distraction, the better. A basic tone or vibration has to be established. Once that's done, the forum will run on its own and only keep and attract those people that are in alignment with that basic tone or vibration. So I'll be moderating a bit more hands on for a month or two until things are stable enough and everyone knows exactly what is okay and what isn't and then I'll just let the forum be. The final goal is no moderation whatsoever and let LOA do the work instead. Similar to what is said in the Daodejing about the highest form of governing a country. But that requires a mature community. And we are not quite there yet. But so far I can say it looks very promising. And we've basically been there once already, so it can be done again. OK, so does this mean the Bhagavad Gita is off limits, the discussion between Arjuna and Krishna where Arjuna is concerned about making war on his friends family? (Seriously, you've basically cut my legs out from under me, because all this discussion about stuff only happening in consciousness, IOW, nobody really dies, is a major issue with me. Do people die or not?) fwiw, imho, that question is (very) good. It's just when we meander into discussing the news or current events rather than using it as an example only. Trying to keep the focus on topic, rather than diverting. Also, literally staying on topic. |
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Post by Reefs on Apr 13, 2017 8:50:35 GMT -5
I'm just imagining the 'cover up' claims ensuing with moderation of that thread . The truth is out there!It's a moderator's nightmare, for sure. I've watched this unfold on another forum during the primaries and the general election and see that forum slowly but surely sink into chaos where they allowed free chat. And it didn't do the forum any good despite heavy handed moderation. On topic discussion became really really rare and quality of discussion suffered as well, it turned basically into a war of memes, several long standing members got banned over totally unrelated issues and a lot of other senior members just left because of the chaos and never returned. So if you want to destroy a forum, that's one sure way to do it. |
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Post by Reefs on Apr 13, 2017 8:55:22 GMT -5
OK, so does this mean the Bhagavad Gita is off limits, the discussion between Arjuna and Krishna where Arjuna is concerned about making war on his friends family? (Seriously, you've basically cut my legs out from under me, because all this discussion about stuff only happening in consciousness, IOW, nobody really dies, is a major issue with me. Do people die or not?) Those are all existential questions. That's all fine and dandy. What's not okay is purely political discussions like what president Trump should do next or if president Putin is really that bad. That kind of stuff doesn't belong here. |
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Post by Reefs on Apr 13, 2017 8:59:26 GMT -5
fwiw, imho, that question is (very) good. It's just when we meander into discussing the news or current events rather than using it as an example only. Trying to keep the focus on topic, rather than diverting. Also, literally staying on topic. Exactly. |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Apr 13, 2017 9:06:42 GMT -5
OK, so does this mean the Bhagavad Gita is off limits, the discussion between Arjuna and Krishna where Arjuna is concerned about making war on his friends family? (Seriously, you've basically cut my legs out from under me, because all this discussion about stuff only happening in consciousness, IOW, nobody really dies, is a major issue with me. Do people die or not?) Those are all existential questions. That's all fine and dandy. What's not okay is purely political discussions like what president Trump should do next or if president Putin is really that bad. That kind of stuff doesn't belong here. No problem, understand. ..........I guess part of this goes (all the way) back to the first Neal Donald Walsh book about asking God questions. The guy is a fool and an idiot, and I never read another word he wrote after his Hitler comments in that book. (And from that I extrapolate sometimes maybe where I shouldn't). |
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Post by maxdprophet on Apr 13, 2017 17:37:30 GMT -5
My hunch is that our new mod might be slightly irritated with our offtopicness. Mayhaps we should populate a more relevant thread wit these musings?
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Post by Reefs on Apr 13, 2017 20:23:34 GMT -5
My hunch is that our new mod might be slightly irritated with our offtopicness. Mayhaps we should populate a more relevant thread wit these musings? Yes, this thread is for moderation related issues only. I've moved the latest off topic conversation to SDP's thread " Why does pain and suffering exist in the world?" |
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Post by zendancer on Apr 14, 2017 10:07:22 GMT -5
My hunch is that our new mod might be slightly irritated with our offtopicness. Mayhaps we should populate a more relevant thread wit these musings? Yes, this thread is for moderation related issues only. I've moved the latest off topic conversation to SDP's thread " Why does pain and suffering exist in the world?" In keeping with this approach I moved two following posts (by Source and SomeNothing) to the Human Adulthood thread. |
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Post by Reefs on Apr 15, 2017 6:37:12 GMT -5
All,
the issue of quoting from private messages (PM) came up. Private messages are called 'private' for a reason. So before you post any content from PM or email conversations please ask for permission first. Content from PM or email that is posted without permission will be deleted. If both parties agree to publish content from a PM or email conversation, that's fine.
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Post by steven777 on Apr 15, 2017 12:55:41 GMT -5
Unpin these threads...its not good LOA for what you are trying to accomplish here.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2017 19:08:30 GMT -5
Unpin these threads...its not good LOA for what you are trying to accomplish here. a more honest reply would be.. "I'm still bewildered and upset that Reefs was made moderator and I will continue to post nonsense critiques and criticisms until either I accept things are beyond my control, or I get banned, whichever comes first"  |
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Post by tzujanli on Apr 15, 2017 21:45:32 GMT -5
Well sure, the owner of the forum is getting click revenue no doubt about it. One way or another. But reefs lame rule of not engaging someone to make them wrong is absurd. Especially since reefs doesn't know the difference between that and one-upmanship. I say someone should organize a vote on this travesty. And as if acting ones age is a discerning factor for wisdom...idiocy. If anyone wants to "make someone wrong," play one-upsmanship games, have food fights, or hurl ridicule, they can always post in the unmoderated section. I just hope that Reefs can make the moderated section a civil place where mutual respect is the norm rather than the rare exception. He has my full support, and I suspect that he'll have the full support of many others. When i was regularly posting, here, there was the tactic used where a certain member would copy posts from the Moderated section into the Unmoderated section, then play his games over there.. i would like to suggest that no copying of posts to the Unmoderated section be permitted without the agreement of those identified in the copied post.. |
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