Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2016 16:29:17 GMT -5
Feb 4, 2016 5:11:55 GMT -5 @sunshine said:
Jan 18, 2016 2:53:23 GMT -5 @sunshine said:
Your sock puppets each represent instances of a SM. i understand that from your perspective, which is theorethical,or at least based on limited observation,you have to say that, but it is not showing a correct understamding of what goes on in mind.
so nope--i explained how i came to sock puppets in another post to you--and the healer explained it was so--i obeserved and saw it was so..
this healer ,sorry, seems far superior to you in understanding and action.if i find that post back i will give the link
sunshine said:
so this is still trying to get out of individual mind-?I thought you already achieved that
enigma said
that individual mind is an illusion (separation) and when you enter universal mind--all others are experienced as part of yourself--and many ´´conflicts´´ there--as we see here in abundance...
There's no need to get out of individual mind. You're not in it to begin with. One more time, resolving split mind is about resolving internal conflict.
Folks want to get out of mind, or silence it, or obliterate it, and I understand where that comes from, but that's just more split mind. (It's mind that wants to do something nefarious with mind. Or do you think you have another thinking self outside of mind?) A betterer approach is to make mind healthy. No more unconsciousness, split mind and insanity.
sunshine said
yep, thanks, ..i explained betterer in a later post to you--i copy paste it here now 4you plus extra
´´what i wanted to point out, about the split mind idea--i think it is not the mind that is split, but the vital--the life force..and these are different egos iinside the one body--the mental part wants to make it one ego,
and it seems such (one ego) through continuous identification--the different emotions are in fact different energies, but going seemingly seamless over into each other...
it is useful to see it as such because keen observation shows it is like that--but we never learned to look at it like that--and it isnt really necessary if you want to get to nirvana or the transcendent.But for mastery on the level of life-force energy, you need it.
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i narrated elsewhere that a man once stopped an instoppable raging psychosis going on inside me, and he could do so because he mastered these lower chakra energies...i had lost the ´´uniting ego´´(for want of a name for it)and all these different energies fought for dominance inside me--this is the cause of the Voices many schizofrenics hear...they are energies and the mind gives them voices and faces and even identities..
If i had not had this experience myself inside out i would perhaps doubt it...another reason for me to think it is so, is that the guy who did this healing, told me that it was so...and i later observed it myself when i could step back from it...
an insight maybe worth considering...
it is btw how i came up with the notion of ´´sock puppets´´---the thing is i do identify still with these entities,but learned not to remain attached to them..i can always at will take a step back and look at it from silence...from the Transcendent...
the energies become faceless,voiceless, but nevertheless different from each other--in integral yoga we identify with the one closest to the light, and unite the rest around it, using the ´´descending force´´ to purify ...at some point you get freedom--to withdraw into -identify with-- the transcendent--but the work isntover then, at least not in integral yoga...
also you will notice that these energies are partly coming from other human beings--which is why a mental hospital is the worst possible place for someone suffering from ´´voices´´ to be--things just get worse there.So they bomb patients with tranquillizers.Pathetic incompetence.
ps with respect--i have a better understanding now of ´´where you come from´´ and can see why you say what you say... am not agreeing it is the total answer though--other approaches are possible, as i point out here...my problem with the advaita approach is that it leaves the vital--life force--unchanged..mind simply disconnects from it...and advaitists usually have no power over these energies...(tantrics do ,by the way..yet another approach--but i know very little about them)
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