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Post by swamicollins on Nov 11, 2008 14:27:39 GMT -5
Light Mystic--you do seem determined tio be taken as STUPID so I will do that.I have said before that I am NOT the slightest interested in "truth" --I am in UNion with CREATION(you wiil, of course deny that but thats your stupidity showing again) just because you are a FAILURE dont assume that I am-As for DULITY that is the created province of MIND(it is where you reside permanently-in DUALITY)I am neither in DUALITY or in NON_DUALITY-both are Mind created and I left them a long time ago-I write here to try to reach others who may be desirous of coming into Permanent Union with CREATION through the Path of MINDLESSNES(the ONLY way)-and as you are grasping to the Mindgames you play then what I write is obviously NOT of interest for you--why NOT give up trying to "debate" with me??you are out of your depth =just stay at your present level playing the silly verbal Mindgames you are playing-Words have NO shame LM(light Mystic is too tedious to keep typing out so if I ever write again to you silly verbal meanderings I will refer to you as LM--OK?)
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Post by sophia on Nov 11, 2008 14:30:42 GMT -5
I'm getting ready to leave to go to an appointment so I don't have time to write a long response or to engage in the interesting discussions going on right now, but I will say that Swami knows how to shock us silly and he is a very skilled provocateur, but I think he is drunk with Creation as Rumi would be drunk with the Beloved. I like having this diversity here. He really knows how to test our patience - we can find out if we are as patient or humble as we would like to believe we are.
This forum is wonderful; I am so glad that it is here. It definitely beats any other forum that I've ever participated in.
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Post by lightmystic on Nov 11, 2008 14:43:02 GMT -5
Yeah, I agree Sophia. I'm sorry if you think I'm stupid swami. I'm not saying that you are stuck in duality, I'm just saying that the way you talk about things gives that appearance. I have plenty of old programs that behave as if I'm in duality, and letting those unwind is wonderful.
You are debating with me as well Swami. I like the debate. It doesn't matter, but I figure if you poke something enough something good falls out. Isn't that what we're both doing?
You cannot truly know if I am without mind or not. After all, what is your criteria?
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Post by Peter on Nov 11, 2008 14:48:00 GMT -5
You found something he wrote shocked you silly? What was that?
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Post by swamicollins on Nov 12, 2008 2:39:51 GMT -5
LM-I can "read" your being in Mind and GroupMind but will congratulate you on being able to ignore it(to a certain extent) in your search for the answers to the THree Questions of Existence-I gained insight into pweoples psychic orientation and you definitely are in MIND/Conditioned Identity--read vmy Free Ebook--www.experientialknowingness.co.uk
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Post by swamicollins on Nov 12, 2008 2:41:30 GMT -5
Peter-AW!! are you really unshockable?? I dont believe you!! stop using the contents of your well advertised spoon- I ran halfway houses in London and Tel Aviv and can suss you out easy peasy--like it or not.
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Post by Peter on Nov 12, 2008 5:20:23 GMT -5
No I'm not unshockable, but nothing you've written so far has shocked me. Neither have I found any of it useful.
Ahh, I get your half-way house reference now. You think I've chosen a picture of a crack spoon for my avatar? No, you're way off the mark there. The spoon can contain nothing because there is no spoon.
Something you might find helpful in your communication is to understand how your writing style causes readers to perceive an emotional and mental state that you may or may not wish to present. The reader then reacts to this, which may be why you're finding yourself coming into conflict with others so frequently, all over the Internet. You may be quite comfortable with the conflict, but other may not. This shows a lack of consideration for others and if you understand how All things are connected, then you will understand the subtle effect this will be having on yourself and your karma. Also, because you're having to repeat yourself over and over again, you are wasting what little precious time you have in your body. In other words, you are not communicating efficiently.
Over-use of capital letters, exclamation marks, sentences that run for entire paragraphs and multiple punctuation (!!??) all leave the reader with an impression of a very excited and barely controlled frame of mind - not the balanced emotion that you profess to be writing in. There is no space and (there appears to be) no consideration in your writing. If you do not at least appear to consider what is being written to you and what you are replying with, then the frustrations that others are currently having with you will continue.
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Post by swamicollins on Nov 12, 2008 13:04:13 GMT -5
peter-diddums likkle silly words fail to impress the NASTY man who Loves him UNCONDITIONALLY?? Of course they did!! There is no Spoon!!what absolute philosophical NONSENSE you write! Such DEEP metaphorical Bulls***!! You are used by your Mind and you have chosen to Cooperate with that Mind..thats ALL you are --just another Collaborator with the MINd and your lost in Words and concepts that have NO value My dog has more senswe than you have-at least she loves me UNCONDITIONALLY as I LOVE CREATION UNconditionally but unlike Rumi I can and Have defined the route to ALL men and Women Loving CREATION UNCONDITIONALLY-but ALL youi can do Peter is pose and pout and try manipulate others Minds longdistance cos your LOVE is CONDITIONAL only!! Go on attack me for syntax and Grammar and spelling and punctuation and all the rest of these "literary" devices that show your desparately afraid of the CONTENT of My Free Ebook!!-thats you to a T Peter!! A NIT-PICKING phoney Intellectual lost in your "hip" posing and dreary thrid hand Junkie experiences-- CREATION loves you but you reject CREATION-very well its your choice out in the open now!! Youll have to live and die with the knowledge that byou rejected Unconditional Lover for the phoney stuff your Mind and its puppet the Conditione Identity threw up as the "real YOU" I HAVE NO KARMA-Good or Bad I can ONLY make NEUTRAL KARMA I have Neither MIND nor NO-MIND I have NOT Conditioned or Deconditioned Identity By the way your NO-SPOON reference was setolen from MATRIX!!GOTCHA!! Bet you pose around town in your ankle length black coat looking moody and all Neo like- then you are the ONE??Double BS! I am balanced emotionally but do admit to ROBUST PASSION in my Writings about my UNCONDITIONAL LOVE for CREATION-I try (in vain) to reach you directly but you NIT-PICK intellectually and AVOID the point ofr BEING UNCONDITIONAL LOVE-as do most others that read my Postings-Yes theyre afraid like you are-they,like you prefer to love CONDITIONALLY because Conditional Love allows you to HATE as well doesnt it??It is of NO CONSEQUENCE to me--CREATION loves meunconditionally and regards your Conditional Love as rightly something the Cat dragged in-a Piece of Roadkill!! I have NO consideration whatsoever for your immature Junky mindgames--Neos Famous Spoon--cheap Magic tricks for easily impressed GroupMinders like yourself!!
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Post by Peter on Nov 12, 2008 13:48:55 GMT -5
<sigh> Yes, I admit it. I setole it.
You're really stuck on this idea that I'm a drug addict aren't you?
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Post by swamicollins on Nov 12, 2008 16:52:08 GMT -5
Peter-YES you are a many faceted Drug addict--You are addicted to pretending that you are something you are Not!! You are addicted (like all others on this Blog site) to Mind and its puppet the Conditioned Identity(you "believe that you are the Conditioned Identity like ALL others here too.) You are most likely a Lonely Tobacco/Alcohol Addict living on the 17th floor of a crumbling Tower Block near Barlinnie living on takeaways and six-packs hunched over your computer useing it to plug into many GroupMinds daily in the hopes of finding confirmation that you are the Image you project and want people to believe you are-people who you are safe from for you know youll NEVER meet them-youd run a thousand miles from Face to Face contact unless your wearing your cheap black ankle-length coat,ever-present Dark Glasses and "enigmatic neo-NEO look as you fantasise about "saving the world and being screwed by a neo-Trinity. You pretend to be Neo when your just another pathetic Mind Games player projecting a FALSE Image of yourself from behind the anonimity of a Keyboard(dont worry as All others here are doing the to varying degrees--Except me ) When you use a Drug Addicts Spoon you project the Image of Being one--and your denials are then taken as LIES as Junkies are Notorious Liars--Get a new image for your self--say a SHEEP or a Chicken Why pretend to be a loser like Neo??-Ive got ALL 3 of these COMEDY DVDs--very funny I just roar with laughter at the insecurity of MindGames players who Identify with such an "anti-hero" as Neo and such PHONEY violence scenes--I saw violence during the Teddy Boy era in the 50s--now thats REAL violence-not the fantasies concocted by Two pussycat brothers whod run screaming for Mummy if it came anywhere near them.--I am not here to indemnify your Fantasies-perhaps others on this Blog will do that-theyre ALL projecting False Images of their Conditioned Identity like you are anyway I do not intentionally want my readers to perceive an "Emotional or Mental" state but as they are the slaves of their "emotions and Mind" then thatll happen anyway. I just write that they may just have a Brief contact with CREATION- though I realise(thanks to people like you and your writings)that more or less everybody that reads My posts will shy away in "conflict" with me-rather than admit to themselves that the real action they take is to shy away from CREATION itself(though as usual they will deny this totally(LIE about it!!) So far 182 people have read this Posting but only 3 people have tried to even insult me(you fail on that score but at least you try!!-but are very revealing as to the state of GroupMind here)--I would say that of these 182 at least 175 are Moral Cowards for not even defending the GroupMinds that nourish and sustain them and I dont want them to reply-unless they realise that I am Mindless and No-Mindless--that I Am Conditioned Identity less--that I am Not in Duality(a reward for being Mindless) and I am not "in" Non-Duality--and that unlike you I cannot be "nice" merely to preserve My Integrity(a quality everyone here is lacking in)as I regard UNION with CREATION a far more agreeable alternative to the State of GroupMind ALL here are trapped in. By the way the "sigh" fails too--that slightly "worldly" use of the word "sigh" just reveals you cant stop trying to manipulate anyone reading your posts--the French would call it Blase'-I call it as I see it-if you take offense then thats you reacting! not me making you react--or dont you know about being neutral?? I write TRUTHFULLY-you have NEVER been in UNION with CREATION so you do NOT know the State of Unconditional Love that can only be attained when Mind and its Puppet the Conditiioned Identity have dissolved-something youve never done consciously because you dont know how to
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Post by swamicollins on Nov 12, 2008 16:54:12 GMT -5
Peter-YES you are a many faceted Drug addict--You are addicted to pretending that you are something you are Not!! You are addicted (like all others on this Blog site) to Mind and its puppet the Conditioned Identity(you "believe that you are the Conditioned Identity like ALL others here too.) You are most likely a Lonely Tobacco/Alcohol Addict living on the 17th floor of a crumbling Tower Block near Barlinnie living on takeaways and six-packs hunched over your computer useing it to plug into many GroupMinds daily in the hopes of finding confirmation that you are the Image you project and want people to believe you are-people who you are safe from for you know youll NEVER meet them-youd run a thousand miles from Face to Face contact unless your wearing your cheap black ankle-length coat,ever-present Dark Glasses and "enigmatic neo-NEO look as you fantasise about "saving the world and being screwed by a neo-Trinity. You pretend to be Neo when your just another pathetic Mind Games player projecting a FALSE Image of yourself from behind the anonimity of a Keyboard(dont worry as All others here are doing the to varying degrees--Except me ) When you use a Drug Addicts Spoon you project the Image of Being one--and your denials are then taken as LIES as Junkies are Notorious Liars--Get a new image for your self--say a SHEEP or a Chicken Why pretend to be a loser like Neo??-Ive got ALL 3 of these COMEDY DVDs--very funny I just roar with laughter at the insecurity of MindGames players who Identify with such an "anti-hero" as Neo and such PHONEY violence scenes--I saw violence during the Teddy Boy era in the 50s--now thats REAL violence-not the fantasies concocted by Two pussycat brothers whod run screaming for Mummy if it came anywhere near them.--I am not here to indemnify your Fantasies-perhaps others on this Blog will do that-theyre ALL projecting False Images of their Conditioned Identity like you are anyway I do not intentionally want my readers to perceive an "Emotional or Mental" state but as they are the slaves of their "emotions and Mind" then thatll happen anyway. I just write that they may just have a Brief contact with CREATION- though I realise(thanks to people like you and your writings)that more or less everybody that reads My posts will shy away in "conflict" with me-rather than admit to themselves that the real action they take is to shy away from CREATION itself(though as usual they will deny this totally(LIE about it!!) So far 182 people have read this Posting but only 3 people have tried to even insult me(you fail on that score but at least you try!!-but are very revealing as to the state of GroupMind here)--I would say that of these 182 at least 175 are Moral Cowards for not even defending the GroupMinds that nourish and sustain them and I dont want them to reply-unless they realise that I am Mindless and No-Mindless--that I Am Conditioned Identity less--that I am Not in Duality(a reward for being Mindless) and I am not "in" Non-Duality--and that unlike you I cannot be "nice" merely to preserve My Integrity(a quality everyone here is lacking in)as I regard UNION with CREATION a far more agreeable alternative to the State of GroupMind ALL here are trapped in. By the way the "sigh" fails too--that slightly "worldly" use of the word "sigh" just reveals you cant stop trying to manipulate anyone reading your posts--the French would call it Blase'-I call it as I see it-if you take offense then thats you reacting! not me making you react--or dont you know about being neutral?? I write TRUTHFULLY-you have NEVER been in UNION with CREATION so you do NOT know the State of Unconditional Love that can only be attained when Mind and its Puppet the Conditiioned Identity have dissolved-something youve never done consciously because you dont know how to
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Post by Peter on Nov 12, 2008 17:30:12 GMT -5
...and so the frustrations that others are currently having with you will continue...
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Post by lightmystic on Nov 12, 2008 20:49:25 GMT -5
Swami, I'm definitely quite serious about progression, and I don't mean in a limited, individualistic sense, but in deepening the relationship with my true self sense. If you say you can read my mind/being, that is fine. If you can describe my experience such that I will recognize it, then perhaps I would listen more to what you had to say, as I could see that your claims about where I am are genuine. Also, I've noticed that if I heal something in myself, then it heals in the world. You might be amazed to find that too if you try it out. Anyway, let me know what you think. Best Regards, LM LM-I can "read" your being in Mind and GroupMind but will congratulate you on being able to ignore it(to a certain extent) in your search for the answers to the THree Questions of Existence-I gained insight into pweoples psychic orientation and you definitely are in MIND/Conditioned Identity--read vmy Free Ebook--www.experientialknowingness.co.uk
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Post by sophia on Nov 12, 2008 22:21:36 GMT -5
Is there anything that's not shocking? I think it's his method that is so unconventional. When I first read his posts I thought he was lost in his own world. Well, he probably is. If he's happy and content with where he is I certainly won't try to change him, although I wouldn't mind changing one thing - his occasional barbarianism. It takes more than he can do to hurt my feelings, but I'm worried about how other people will take him. I don't like to see anyone's feelings hurt. This world was built to host people of all kinds. You found something he wrote shocked you silly? What was that?
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Post by swamicollins on Nov 13, 2008 4:05:02 GMT -5
Peter-you mean the frustrations youre having with me-these are because I will NOT accept your outside projected image of yourself that you want me to accept--I do NOT play MindGames with you or ANYONE Put on your dark glasses -stand in gront of a Mirror-and try looking enigmatic!!
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