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Post by swamicollins on Nov 8, 2008 11:06:24 GMT -5
were exposed as frauds by this one Man who was MINDLESS and Conditioned Identityless and who was the only one recognised by CREATION itself the ONLY path to UNION with CREATION itself which is ONLY obtainable through Total Dissolution of Mind/Conditioned Identity by adhering to the rules established in accord between CREATION and this Man in his Book www.experientialknowingness.co.ukThis one Man amongst ALL those others here and elsewhere that claim to be various combinations of Words and Concepts that are just strings of Fine-Sounding but meaningless associated words- words like SINCERITY and WISDOM and COMPASSION and TOLERANCE and FREEDOM and GOODNESS .All those that write here and "claim" in their words and concepts to be this meaning according to that Holy Book or the Other Meaning according to the other Holy Book These so-called"seekers"posessed of Many great TRUTHS but lacking in TRUTHFULNESS(because Truthfulness ONLY comes from Experience and here it is the inexperienced that can pretend to their keyboards length every day)--no eye to eye--no face to face --Eh Sophia?? , so Truthfulness is just a word to you here, and words have no shame have they???nor have the writers here either so far as I can see. Perhaps you would call me wrong(take that one up with CREATION-(oh sorry I know that not ONE of you can do that) or "angry"(robust passion) or maybe you can write in and tell me what I really am(according to you). You could even claim to be Mindless or to know CREATION or to be -------what??As long as you keep your minds and your membership in the "religious/Spiritual GROUPMINDS" that have infested this planet since time immemorial then youll be "OK"--no need for anything that could be worth any thing any price!!
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Post by sophia on Nov 8, 2008 11:32:53 GMT -5
I think if you can really see me, you'll be able to see my sincerity (which is a word you use but a word you don't seem to like).
How can a Mindless person write posts? Doesn't it take a mind to do any writing at all?
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Post by swamicollins on Nov 8, 2008 18:00:52 GMT -5
Hello "you"--I can "see" you as I can "see" everyone alive-I choose NOT to use that faculty with just about everyone alive because I do NOT care to look into the "cesspit" that most people are-Words are but the medium of exchange that I must use whilst you are in Mind/Conditioned Identity-now you would say that you are outside of MCI(comprenez MCI as Shorthand??)and I would tell you truthfully that you are being deceived by MCI--As for your "sincerity" well I would dispute that you are sincere as you refuse to meet my standards of "sincerity"which would necessitate at least a preliminary Face to Face meeting on Neutral ground so that we both can get to know each other-you tend to grandstand when writing on this space as its more public and you want others to see you as you see yourself(rightly or Wongly)-on my private E address your a little less PR orientated-If you want me to "teach" you(not a word Id use to describe the process of Analysis/Therapy that would exist if you became "chela" with me)(that is IF I accepted you as suitable for Analysis/Therapy after I had asessed your "sincerity" face to face")-I am traditional in that I say what you call "teaching is more a process of Transformation that must at least start under my personal guidance(my Wife and fellow Yogini would be there as "chaperon"-to rest your Husbands fears--(I apologise for calling him "dickhead"-seemed a good way to get you both to focus on me) I do NOT offer a longdistance proceedure--I can give you Advice and guidance but must stress that this would be merely an interval to meeting Face to Face-and I COULD NOT initiate you in any way inmto a relationship with CREATION(please dont tell me again the LIE that you know CREATION-we both know you DONT)As for how a MINDLESS person can write?-If you read my book you would read that the REading Writing Speaking and Listening centres in the Brain are the EGO-(the centres of Werner and Broca-read Carl Sagan)so I just tap my fingers on the Keyboard and up it comes on the screen in front of you(with some delay) I wrote my complete Ebook in the state of MINDLESSNESS-which I am in permanently for the rest of my life now-I choose to be like this because then I(as a Small part of CREATION in this body)am in Union with the Larger part of CREATION outside this body-)something you may be able to assert intellectually but are totally able to experience wholistically because of The Mind/Conditioned Identity that you "believe "you are since birth. Your "sincerity" is only in words as you full well know so stop trying to manipulate me and other readers with these silly assertions of supposed "sincerity"--I am NOT andy person that you can manipulate EVER-its best you come clean--until then Good Night-Sweet Dreams
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Post by swamicollins on Nov 8, 2008 18:07:04 GMT -5
Sophias Addendum--the words "totally able" should read "totally UNABLE"-you are Totally unable Wholistically to experience Union or even Contact with CREATION-like all others who are "in" Mind/Conditioned Identity.
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Post by sophia on Nov 8, 2008 18:21:58 GMT -5
You sometimes seem to give the impression that you don't like most everyone, and yet you care enough to write a book which is an attempt to help mankind awaken from their ego-driven lives. If you were truly apathetic, you'd not have written the book.
As for my alter-ego on the public forum vs. private email, publicly of course I'd choose to appear self-efficient. (And yes, in case you're wondering now I do see the double-entendre!) When one is as obsessed as I am with "spirituality" sometimes all I have on the mind is finding someone who might have all the answers that could possibly lead me to more frequent contact with the Supreme Being.
I try to show the sincerity I FEEL through the words I use.
Good night to you, too.
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Post by swamicollins on Nov 9, 2008 2:35:06 GMT -5
You--Firstly you uswe tghe word EGO without understanding its meaning at all-I am in NO way trying to help people waken from their "ego" driven lives as you write-I do NOT use words like Awaken for a start-I am precise about words you are sloppy because you do NOT know the meanings of words--The EGO is a reflexive action tsaken by the Speaking Listening Writing and reading centres in the Brain --one the size of a Grain of Rice-the other the Size of a Pea--Read the several Pages in my Feee Ebook--www.experientialknowingness.co.uk--that explain the nature and function of the EGO(as it really is)-Again you use the word EGO wrongly to describe your Conditioned Identity on usage in Public--You should read and study my Free Ebook in order to understand how certain words have a Physiological meaning and Function-you are,like nearly ALL others,conditioned to aquire Words but not their MeaNINGS. there is NO Supreme Being at all-never has been-never will be--CREATION is a "beingness"there is a huge difference between Being and Beingness-Being is your anthropomorphisation of "something" that cannot be subjected tio that process.One can ONLY enter a State of "Experiential Knowingness" of CREATION when one has dissolved MCI Totally(either Temporarily or Permanently-you MAY have been in the Former but I do NOT know for certain that you have as the MCI does an absolutely brilliant impersonation of CREATION(brilliant but misleading)-If you are truly as you say seeking "more Frequent contact" with CREATION(if youve ever had it-which I very much doubt)then I tell you there is only ONE way to be in UNION with CREATION and that is through dissolving MCI through the steps I outline in my Free Ebook--www.experientialknowingness.co.uk-I keep on going back to this as without a COMPLETE understanding of the book I cannot "teach" you or anyone--you have MCI and you have many misunderstanding of the true Meanings of words that describe accurately the Goal and Methods and Physiological components necessary to reach this State of Separate and Merged(I do NOT say Separate But Merged--the state is a State of Simultaneous Experiential Knowingness of ones real Beingness as a small Part of CREATION and UNION with CREATION itself--I am in NO way into "spirituality" as the world of Disincarnate Spirits has no attraction at all for me-As for you "trying to show the "sincerity you feel" through words then again I say that "sincerity is a state of Beingness and words have no Morality at all-when I read you long distance I find a mixed up "seeker" whose "sincerity" is sadly lacking but who is quite erudite with using meaningless words to mislead her REAL SELF on behalf of the MCI Sophia it is very difficult for me to carry on exchanging posts with you when you have not made yourself familiar with My Ebook and the words and Concepts in it. I feel like SYSIPHUS reading you ill informed replies but Ill try to help you into "starting" to come into UNION with CREATION-but understand that you will have to become familiar with the "teachings" in my Book and also for Definite youll have to come here to meet me face to face in order that I can directly transmit certain things that CANNOT be written down and silly excuses like you come up with will not do. Later
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Post by sophia on Nov 9, 2008 13:15:58 GMT -5
Swami,
I use words to the best of my ability. I understand that it is what the word describes that is important. We use the word "apple" to describe the crunchy red fruit, but even if we called it something else it would still be that crunchy red fruit. Words are just symbols. So when I use the word "ego" I am using it to describe to the best of my ability the conditioned identity of which you speak. It is entirely possible that I have an incorrect understanding of the word.
I will read your book; it doesn't seem to be very long so it shouldn't take much time, and I've already skimmed through parts of it here and there. I'll read it word-for-word this time. I am sorry but I can't waste any more of your time, as I am not able to travel to see you.
Before ending, I will say that you are one of the most unique separates I've ever met, probably due to your merged state, and had you a conditioned identity you would be most interesting to get to know. As it is, the speaking and writing portions of your brain produce some interesting idiosyncrasies.
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Post by swamicollins on Nov 9, 2008 14:23:13 GMT -5
You-use the word EGO-the meaning you ascribe to this word EGO is the meaning that the GroupMind that controls your brain through the Mind in Your head wants you to use-I point out in my Ebook that the word EGO has only ONE meaning in REALITY and further point out that REALITY is NOT defined,as you "think",by other words but is defined by a PHYSIOLOGICAL state of Beingness that you are unable to exist in because of the Mind and its puppet the Conditioned Identity of Sophia that controls your Brain Centres and therefore you ability to act-Reality is the State of Beingness that one lives in ONLY if one has dissolved Mind Conditioned Identity-the Mind that controls YOU through the Conditioned Identity of "Sophia" is so far sucessfully preventing you from reading my Free Ebook--word for Word--cover to cover-I know you are capable,if YOU exert yourself and ignore the voice of Sophia,of reading this book and maybe by doing so gaining a little insight into the problem that so obsesses you and untold millions like you around this benighted Planet at this moment and has for thousands of Years since Mind first came into being and took control over primitive mans(womans too)brain and created an Identity through the Conditioning process that ALL are subjected to starting after Birth.No one escapes this process because so far there has NEVWER been anyone who has Dissolved Mind/Conditioned Identity consciously as I and My wife,Grene,and my Friend Ben have.We have therefore avoided the trap that you and all other seekers are caught in.the Trap of Seeking "spiritual Enlightenment" as to your present condition.You have read many seductive words about "Enlightenment" and Buddahood and Avatarship and Gnosis and Awakening and Christhood and Messiah-ship and Saviour etc etc etc and learnt to put strings of words together from the various books on these subject that you have read--strings of words that you believe describes "where you are at!"-one of your problems is that no matter how many others you tell these words to in the hopes that if they believe them and thereby accept your projected image that deep down you know they are not TRUE-that there is a state that you are NOT in and that you dont know how to get into-and another problem is admitting ,not to others,but to your very own self(yes I accept you Know yourself but you also know you are not able to BE yourself no way no matter what you do.Your CONDESCENSION towards me is not worthy of YOU but is done by SOPHIA(the Conditioned Identity) controlling you through controlling your brain because you are just too bloody cowardly to tell her to PISS OFF!!Very well!! you have my E address I gave to you(its on the last page of the Ebook--The page is called "afterwords"--read that one first.
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Post by swamicollins on Nov 9, 2008 14:24:26 GMT -5
PS-NO you have never Met me!!as you LIE!!
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Post by sophia on Nov 9, 2008 18:55:08 GMT -5
Dear Swami,
By "met" I mean I bumped into you online here; I came to acknowledge your existence online.
I don't know what it is I keep doing that makes you think I'm being condescending towards you. If you tell me what it is I'll try to stop. I have nothing but respect for you.
I've just read the afterwords as you recommended, and naturally I already have a question. You chose the name "Collins" because your hero is Michael Collins. You protest against the GroupMind of every group, including nation-states, yet, Michael Collins is regarded as the founding father of the second largest political party in the Republic of Ireland. So, here we have a group, at the apex of which we find Michael Collins. Can you tell me why you chose this name when you feel so adamantly that Group Minds and Leaders are part of the problem?
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Post by sophia on Nov 9, 2008 18:58:21 GMT -5
P.S.
I can see some Truth - or, as you prefer, Truthfulness - already in your afterwords. You just use different words to describe it.
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Post by swamicollins on Nov 10, 2008 4:45:48 GMT -5
You-your words are unacceptable because you use the wrong words to describe Physiological functions and as you are confused by this I try to correct you.I do NOT use "different words"to describe it-you use the wrong words thereby misleading yourself
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Post by swamicollins on Nov 10, 2008 4:51:20 GMT -5
I took the name of Collins because at the time this man symbolised to me the yearning for Freedom from oppression-at the time I did not know consciously that I was seeking Freedom from oppression by the Mind and its puppet the Conditioned Identity--I took this name in 1971-on the advice of one of my Yoga instructors-Dr Rammurti Mishra was the other one-the one who advised me of name change was John Doyle. As Shakespaere said" a rose would smell as sweet by any other name" Any name I choose and use would attract opprobrium by someone somewhere so --- Its only words for the purpose of Passport etc
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Post by lightmystic on Nov 10, 2008 11:21:40 GMT -5
If the world is a cesspit and everyone and pretty much everything is wrong, how can you see all as That? Aren't those statements just mind games, mind opinions? Don't you feel connected with everyone?
Everyone is more and more wonderful in my experience as my clarity about my connection grows. How can one hate love? what is not love?
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Post by Peter on Nov 10, 2008 12:20:30 GMT -5
Yeah....o...kay.... Well I'm having some fairly ambivalent reactions to our discussion this week and that 'ol ego wants to jump in and be all judgemental and give out my Opinion. But I'll reign myself in and just post a wee link that I found interesting, even if you may not agree that it's relevant: biologyofkundalini.com/article.php?story=KundaliniandSchizophreniaOkay. Then just so that I'm not forcing myself to be in balance I'll ask: Am I the only person who's found a few posts bordering on the sinister lately?
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