John Wheeler

[echozs]

The Secret, of all accounts, looking for John is pretty funny.

I did get a chuckle from people saying "Just manifest him".

[inavalan]

Sept 1, 2020 13:56:30 GMT -5 echozs said:

The Secret, of all accounts, looking for John is pretty funny.

I did get a chuckle from people saying "Just manifest him".

That's funny.

Surely, you can't manifest him, but you could know where he is and how he is.

[Xiao]

That they were also hunting this down makes it seem particularly strange; like everyone who had come across him sensed his doubtlessness, and now any news that may seem to contradict that is cause for a total nonduality manhunt 😂

[Xiao]

Hey guys,

We threw together a John Wheeler discord for anyone interested in talking about his teachings and related nonduality discussion:


discord.gg/qpkBE5p

[reidar6140]

Thanks to echozs for posting the pdf link to the latest book "Full Stop" :-) I downloaded it and I'm very happy about it. It now costs $ 800 (used book) on amazon. To xiao: It was very interesting with that twitter message. Maybe only Jeffery Martin can answer what happened in India ??
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSrquiuqurY&t=4039s
This is one of the most watched videos on BuddhaAtTheGasPump

[Xiao]

I messaged Jeffery, and I think I can post his response here without it being much of an issue:


(when I asked about John's visit in India)

"I'm sorry but that's some information that is confidential to those research interviews and can't be given out. John used to be accessible from linkedin (as a tech writer) but that seems to be gone as well. I hadn't looked for it in a while, but now see that the page is gone. That was the last link to him from the public that I know of. It wouldn't surprise me if he wishes he could make everything he ever said publicly disappear. That's generally where people that are on his path with FW eventually get to. It's kind of hard to have the total disappearance you want from the world if you've left a trail like that out there. I'm sure things have continued to change in his understanding, as that always happens on that path as well, but in a positive way. He's a hard core path of freedom kind of guy...which is extremely rare in the West."

[reidar6140]

Thanks. Interesting. I'm still happy with the videos and books by John W. that are available today. Now I'm studying Jeffery A. Martin's work. He has a lot of interesting things and it became more important to me now after the new information :-)

[Xiao]

Sept 14, 2020 4:36:53 GMT -5 reidar6140 said:

Thanks. Interesting. I'm still happy with the videos and books by John W. that are available today. Now I'm studying Jeffery A. Martin's work. He has a lot of interesting things and it became more important to me now after the new information :-)

Can you highlight or summarize what you've found interesting/useful regarding Martin's work? 

[echozs]

Parts 7 and 8 of John's talks with Charlie Hayes are now up, I think that is the whole series between these two, nice to see it complete.

[Xiao]

Thanks for that. Good to finally hear these!

[wuwei]

Any updates on JW? I (semi) recently discovered him... he had a huge impact on me and I find this business about him going to India fascinating.

[stevep]

I too would be interested to know what happenned to John Wheeler and would like to thank him too.