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Post by stepvhen on Jan 3, 2011 16:46:05 GMT -5
No I'm not right I'm not even making an argument. I'm pointing towards the facts. I don't need to make an argument. You need to make one because you are clinging hard to your story. You need to argue and win to be the hero.
Oldow
What are you talking about? Good? Please. It's a concept there's no good.
What are you talking about. You're talking in absolutes as though this wasn't your own opinion. Which it is, and as such it's worthless and untrue to boot. If I recall correctly I took you to the very edge of your fantasy world and invited you to step over into reality. And what did you do?
You ran. You ran away to hide. Your opinion doesn't matter.
As I said to the other joker. I don't argue
Thats it Angela thats it. Your clarity. Spot on. you are looking at the reality of this situation and not allowing your story/ego to get involved.
Don't for a second think that a misguided quote makes you intelligent it doesn't.
It's in fact cowardly to hide behind the words spoken by another man in another context. Attributing this to a well known poster is just another layer for you to hide behind. Wheres the honesty? You're hiding behind 2 men and making no real point.
You think there can be separation in this? How can it be seperate?
Are you serious?
You think I want to disappear into bliss? Nope. That's not what awakening is about. It's not a warm blanket on a cold night. It's the cold night.
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Post by wynn on Jan 3, 2011 16:47:58 GMT -5
They are worse than that Frank, they are delusional.
Bye bye ruthless no-truth people. Break free from the madness as soon as you can.
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Post by stepvhen on Jan 3, 2011 16:51:14 GMT -5
They are worse than that Frank, they are delusional. Bye bye ruthless no-truth people. Break free from the madness as soon as you can. An insult. Amazing how very brave of you. I offer you the facts of your own existence and because they run contrary to your well guided lies you throw an insult. How very very honorable and brave. Do you see what you are? Can you not see yourself cling to your illusions? There is no you. Why can you not look at that? |
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Post by frankshank on Jan 3, 2011 16:56:40 GMT -5
Stepvhen: You make so many assumptions based on sentences that can have different meanings and motivations behind them. I don't need to enter into a dialogue with you because I don't feel threatened by you in the slightest. You just seem kinda silly to me. I wish you all the best though!
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Post by karen on Jan 3, 2011 17:10:29 GMT -5
+1
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Post by stepvhen on Jan 3, 2011 17:50:42 GMT -5
Stepvhen: You make so many assumptions based on sentences that can have different meanings and motivations behind them. I don't need to enter into a dialogue with you because I don't feel threatened by you in the slightest. You just seem kinda silly to me. I wish you all the best though! Look at you tossing insults trying prove your superiority with your scummy backhanders and your veiled insults. Threatened by me? This is the problem with you people. This isn't about me. I've done nothing said nothing on my own behalf. I've simply pulled your own bullshit out into the light and pointed you towards the facts. The fact that you don't see there is something deeply wrong with the way you conduct yourselves that is the real problem here. Your eaten alive by self This might just be the funniest thing I have ever read. Firstly you are saying you only enter into dialogues with people who you feel threaten you. This is very telling. It outlines that you only engage in dialog when your sense of self is on the line and you need to protect it. HA HA. RIGHT THERE ^^^ You actually said that. I actually am having a very hard time taking you seriously after such an obviously self obsessed statement. That you only enter into dialogue to protect your sense of self. Secondly we are in a dialogue. You wrote back to me, and you said it yourself.You only write back to maintain your sense of self. You are here fighting for your ego. This is actually quite a good study in the futility of modern "spirituality" Frank do you have any idea how insidious this is? Don't you want to grow up and leave games like these behind? Your living in a fantasy world Frank, and it's crashing down around you. As for you Karen, the same applies. This is so funny. I really hope you will keep talking and provide us some more entertainment in the name of gratifying your ego. |
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Post by karen on Jan 3, 2011 19:14:44 GMT -5
Sorry, I meant +1 more about the wish you all the best part.  |
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Post by oldow on Jan 3, 2011 23:22:26 GMT -5
fuck, steven is right. debating leads nowhere. Don't like, love debating, still seems solid truth.
Just look guys, consider the fact he could speak the truth.
Is it that bad to consider what he says, not just how he says it?
Do it now. Look
Is there you?
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Post by dawn on Jan 3, 2011 23:41:23 GMT -5
f**k off, retarded frog.
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Post by oldow on Jan 4, 2011 0:56:00 GMT -5
no, see
I love discussing philosophy and spiritual and all, but there and everywhere, once it get personal, once flaws in the behaviour are discussed, there are excuses and rationalizations and shit. And people still evade the only important point.
It seems it does not matter how sharp one gets, if he is not willing to push a little.
So yeah, dawn, you disgust me.
not one of your posts here exceeds one line. You are weak intellectually and as I believe personally also. Worst of all, you are toward to do the simplest thing.
To fucking look what is suggested.
Is there any you or what.
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Post by kakistos on Jan 4, 2011 3:23:44 GMT -5
i haven't seen stepvhen once try to say he was right about anything. seriously. he's consistantly challenged us to look at our structures and foundations. but never once has he pushed a point or belief and backed it up with a sense of right. and it really seems to me if he's pushing this many buttons, in fact if this many buttons are dangling out there to be pushed, then we all need to take a step backwards and look at what's really going on that we find ourselves able to be pushed in such a way. *Perks* Someones paying attention? Just when i thought everyone in the thread had fallen into a coma... |
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Post by angela on Jan 4, 2011 9:57:35 GMT -5
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Post by stepvhen on Jan 4, 2011 15:41:19 GMT -5
no, see I love discussing philosophy and spiritual and all, but there and everywhere, once it get personal, once flaws in the behaviour are discussed, there are excuses and rationalizations and nuts. And people still evade the only important point. It seems it does not matter how sharp one gets, if he is not willing to push a little. So yeah, dawn, you disgust me. not one of your posts here exceeds one line. You are weak intellectually and as I believe personally also. Worst of all, you are toward to do the simplest thing. To f**king look what is suggested. Is there any you or what. Oldow you seem to be getting it. This is about taking yourself out of the equation and just looking at whats happening. Thats all I've done in this thread. The problem is very few people are actually here to give up the self. they are here to re-enforce it |
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Post by m on Jan 4, 2011 15:58:29 GMT -5
stepvhen, if all you wanted to say is "This is about taking yourself out of the equation and just looking at whats happening." this is perfect to me. you could have said it from the very beginning. And I bet the following would have been quite different. But the way you introduced the topic in your very first post was much more effective to make a big show (not without interest,as a show I admit) . m no, see I love discussing philosophy and spiritual and all, but there and everywhere, once it get personal, once flaws in the behaviour are discussed, there are excuses and rationalizations and nuts. And people still evade the only important point. It seems it does not matter how sharp one gets, if he is not willing to push a little. So yeah, dawn, you disgust me. not one of your posts here exceeds one line. You are weak intellectually and as I believe personally also. Worst of all, you are toward to do the simplest thing. To f**king look what is suggested. Is there any you or what. Oldow you seem to be getting it. This is about taking yourself out of the equation and just looking at whats happening. Thats all I've done in this thread. The problem is very few people are actually here to give up the self. they are here to re-enforce it |
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Post by stepvhen on Jan 4, 2011 16:11:53 GMT -5
What is the point of just saying that? The idea is for you to come to that realisation yourself. Oldow seems to be looking. Will he actually dive in and face his own death though? Or will he make like Wynn and do his d**nedest to ignore the truth and continue spewing self-serving lies. But more importantly this, for you, should be about you. What are you going to do? Are you going to look? Test if what's been talked about here is a fact? This isn't about stating fact for you people to agree with. It's about you people finding those facts for yourselves. burningtruedotcom.blogspot.com/2010/11/deep-looking.html |
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