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Post by laughter on Feb 21, 2015 1:00:03 GMT -5
It's funny to watch peeps react negatively to the bald fact that no matter how one defines mind it embodies a limitation. Maybe it's fair to define mind as a process of forming limits, drawing boundaries around nothing to make something, imagining something where there was nothing. As there's not a single thought or emotion that doesn't embody a limitation, I'd say yeah, that's fair.
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Post by lolly on Feb 21, 2015 3:41:56 GMT -5
'What is' is a statement. Not a question.
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Post by andrew on Feb 21, 2015 4:44:45 GMT -5
'What is' is a statement. Not a question. okie dokie
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Post by lolly on Feb 21, 2015 5:34:37 GMT -5
It's something I mentioned to Laughter that the self inquiry has lost it way in non-dualsm and neo-advaita as these turn toward 'what is' as though in answer to the question, 'What is?'... but in essence, and in spirit of Nisargadatta Maharaj, "It is your inner teacher who will walk you to the goal, for he is the goal". In self inquiry, there isn't such a thing as a what, there is only a who. When we babble about if there's one or many or dualism and monism and so on, we merely pretend that we know something when all we really do is create conceptual frameworks and try to convince ourselves that framework is true, but the truth is in the creator of frameworks, the who whom we call I. In the tradition of Ramana to Papaji to Nisargadata to Gangaji and Mooji... who asks, 'What is?'?
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Post by andrew on Feb 21, 2015 5:45:03 GMT -5
It's something I mentioned to Laughter that the self inquiry has lost it way in non-dualsm and neo-advaita as these turn toward 'what is' as though in answer to the question, 'What is?'... but in essence, and in spirit of Nisargadatta Maharaj, "It is your inner teacher who will walk you to the goal, for he is the goal". In self inquiry, there isn't such a thing as a what, there is only a who. When we babble about if there's one or many or dualism and monism and so on, we merely pretend that we know something when all we really do is create conceptual frameworks and try to convince ourselves that framework is true, but the truth is in the creator of frameworks, the who whom we call I. In the tradition of Ramana to Papaji to Nisargadata to Gangaji and Mooji... who asks, 'What is?'? okay, I understand. To be clear, I wasn't asking anything abstract or clever when I asked 'what is', I was trying to understand what you had said.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2015 11:04:53 GMT -5
You need to explain me more, I don't understand. What's actually happening and what appears to be happening often contradict. When I am seeing a book in my room in which words and lines are there and in which author name was written in it, Now I am thinking this author has written this book, what contradiction you see here?
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Post by enigma on Feb 21, 2015 11:47:34 GMT -5
What are you saying? Yes or no? The person nodding his head says 'yes yes yes', Is that what you are saying? He's not nodding. He's banging his against the wall.
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Post by enigma on Feb 21, 2015 11:50:33 GMT -5
Maybe it's fair to define mind as a process of forming limits, drawing boundaries around nothing to make something, imagining something where there was nothing. As there's not a single thought or emotion that doesn't embody a limitation, I'd say yeah, that's fair. Thoughts literally define boundaries, which is why mind is the wrong tool for finding boundarylessness.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2015 11:54:27 GMT -5
What are you saying? Yes or no? The person nodding his head says 'yes yes yes', Is that what you are saying? He's not nodding. He's banging his against the wall. Great!!!
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Post by laughter on Feb 21, 2015 12:05:02 GMT -5
As there's not a single thought or emotion that doesn't embody a limitation, I'd say yeah, that's fair. Thoughts literally define boundaries, which is why mind is the wrong tool for finding boundarylessness. Kinda' how like if you carry on a conversation with your car it's never gonna' question yer realization status??
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Post by laughter on Feb 21, 2015 12:06:33 GMT -5
What are you saying? Yes or no? The person nodding his head says 'yes yes yes', Is that what you are saying? He's not nodding. He's banging his against the wall. Wow, what a non-sequitur! ... whazzat got ta' do with anythin' on the thread??
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Post by enigma on Feb 21, 2015 15:38:53 GMT -5
Thoughts literally define boundaries, which is why mind is the wrong tool for finding boundarylessness. Kinda' how like if you carry on a conversation with your car it's never gonna' question yer realization status?? Right, as long as you define proper boundaries of cooperation ahead of time.
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Post by enigma on Feb 21, 2015 15:40:20 GMT -5
He's not nodding. He's banging his against the wall. Wow, what a non-sequitur! ... whazzat got ta' do with anythin' on the thread??
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Post by laughter on Feb 21, 2015 15:57:08 GMT -5
Kinda' how like if you carry on a conversation with your car it's never gonna' question yer realization status?? Right, as long as you define proper boundaries of cooperation ahead of time. u mean like a Giraffic Arrangement??
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Post by enigma on Feb 21, 2015 22:09:51 GMT -5
Right, as long as you define proper boundaries of cooperation ahead of time. u mean like a Giraffic Arrangement?? Yes!
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