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Post by earnest on Nov 12, 2013 15:08:52 GMT -5
You said greed was unacceptable I changed it. I really don't like talking about 'greed' ...it's a hard word. It takes us into right and wrong. And there's no right or wrong about it intrinsically. I define greed in part as not-allowing. So what are you on about!?
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Post by earnest on Nov 12, 2013 15:20:49 GMT -5
So what are you on about!? I figure might as well do something to help save the world while I'm hanging out looking for enlightenment. Help save the world?!? Its not acceptable as it is?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2013 15:40:19 GMT -5
Yes fear of death is also ignorance of self Fear of death creates death because we pull to us our fears? No there is no such thing as death really the shedding of the current identity by the ''I Am' is what is percieved as death, but 'you' will never die....you are an essence that blooms a body/mind....there are many blooms that come and go, but the essence of the tree remains.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2013 15:43:19 GMT -5
Help save the world?!? Its not acceptable as it is? So I'm sitting here. Between two polarities, I must choose? Acceptable or unacceptable, that is the question? One goes to heaven the other to hell? Wherever you go, thats where you are.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2013 15:47:14 GMT -5
Choices can never happen in the future, they are only made in the right now....so it doesn't matter if you have a million years. If you are a procrastinator, then you are a procrastinator. An eternity is not enough for a procrastinator to 'get stuff done', because a procrastinator is always living in an imagined future that will NEVER arrive in the now. Also, you cannot stop being a procrastinator in the future, even if you have 100,000,000 years, you can only stop being a procrastinator in this moment. What is tomorrow? For most?.....An imagined excuse. For Me?......'I don't Know'.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2013 15:59:02 GMT -5
You said greed was unacceptable I changed it. I really don't like talking about 'greed' ...it's a hard word. It takes us into right and wrong. And there's no right or wrong about it intrinsically. I define greed in part as not-allowing. Very good Grasshopper :-)
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Post by ???????? ???????????? on Nov 12, 2013 16:17:16 GMT -5
Do you believe the world is flat? No.
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Post by earnest on Nov 12, 2013 16:21:32 GMT -5
Help save the world?!? Its not acceptable as it is? So I'm sitting here. Between two polarities, I must choose? Acceptable or unacceptable, that is the question? One goes to heaven the other to hell? Rumi FTW! Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing, there is a field. I'll meet you there. When the soul lies down in that grass, the world is too full to talk about. Ideas, language, even the phrase "each other" doesn't make any sense. No need to chose. The choice sets you apart. See you in the field
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Post by enigma on Nov 12, 2013 18:49:40 GMT -5
You're personalizing "Liberation" as a pretender that isn't constrained by beliefs. I'd like to have a word with this Liberation dude. They are just words and in this sense words are used to indicate something that is beyond the words. I know. I'm giving my opinion that those words don't do an effective job of that.
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Post by enigma on Nov 12, 2013 18:59:57 GMT -5
Yes fear of death is also ignorance of self Yeah, it's something the mind is quite fond of... What is it fond of? Fear, death, ignorance or self?
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Post by enigma on Nov 12, 2013 19:01:53 GMT -5
Yes fear of death is also ignorance of self Fear of death creates death because we pull to us our fears? So if we weren't afraid of death, we would live forever?
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Post by enigma on Nov 12, 2013 19:09:25 GMT -5
Everybody thinks they see things as they are. If they didn't, they would be recognizing that things are actually different than they appear, and believing that's how things really are. The only thing you can know is that you don't know. If you tell me about something that happened yesterday could I believe the accuracy of your interpretation of those happenings? How would I know what you can believe? And how does your question relate to the discussion?
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Post by enigma on Nov 12, 2013 19:11:54 GMT -5
Do you believe the world is flat? No, but it's an imperfect circle.
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Post by enigma on Nov 12, 2013 19:15:40 GMT -5
You said greed was unacceptable I changed it. I really don't like talking about 'greed' ...it's a hard word. It takes us into right and wrong. And there's no right or wrong about it intrinsically. I define greed in part as not-allowing. My impression has been that you absolutely love talking about it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2013 19:43:45 GMT -5
Yeah, it's something the mind is quite fond of... What is it fond of? Fear, death, ignorance or self? Yes...
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