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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2013 14:33:48 GMT -5
Here is a cool thing to do.
sit and think and FEEL the thought "I am God"
repeat it over and over to yourself for a few moments until you FEEL its truth.
Then after a few moments switch to: "We are God"
and think it and FEEL it repeatedly until you FEEL its truth
Then after a few moments of that switch to "THIS is God"
Repeat it over and over in your mind until you FEEL its truth
God is always right here, conscious attention is all thats needed to "see" God at any time in any place...God is no mystery thats hidden.
God is not elusive :-)
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Post by desertrat on Oct 7, 2013 14:50:38 GMT -5
On astral pulse there is an interesting post . While out of body this lady asked to see God . I will post a link when I find it.
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Post by silence on Oct 7, 2013 16:50:56 GMT -5
Here is a cool thing to do. sit and think and FEEL the thought "I am God" repeat it over and over to yourself for a few moments until you FEEL its truth. I think you're going down a very psychologically dangerous path.
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Post by tzujanli on Oct 7, 2013 17:14:20 GMT -5
Greetings..
"God" is a word that carries way too much religious and personal baggage, it is an ideological reference point..
Be well..
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2013 17:39:10 GMT -5
Here is a cool thing to do. sit and think and FEEL the thought "I am God" repeat it over and over to yourself for a few moments until you FEEL its truth. I think you're going down a very psychologically dangerous path. Okay....care to discuss it, or elaborate?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2013 17:42:13 GMT -5
Greetings.. "God" is a word that carries way too much religious and personal baggage, it is an ideological reference point.. Be well.. Would you consider that to be ultimately true, or true from your perspective, or are you commenting on what you see as a commonly held perspective in groups like this? as an aside, I avoided the word "God" for many years for just that reason. I'm less inclined to word lawyer at this point though...while at the same time not being married to the word. its just a pointer like all words.
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Post by nowhereman on Oct 7, 2013 18:09:10 GMT -5
I think you're going down a very psychologically dangerous path. Okay....care to discuss it, or elaborate? When I read that comment I immediately thought of this You know the God Complex thngy A psychosis based in uncontrolled narcissism, inflated arrogance and a perceived need to subjugate and/or ridicule other individuals deemed to be inferior or unworthy.Of course the person that has such a complex is completely blinded to it, being in a state of denial.
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Post by ???????? ???????????? on Oct 7, 2013 18:24:54 GMT -5
Becoming truly atheist is not so easy to do. It's not so hard to get rid of the idea of the bearded old man in the sky. But what Lacan calls "the big Other" is much more difficult to get rid of.
When we say "one doesn't do it" in response to some despicable act, who is this "one"? It's the "big Other". That's the place where the idea about God comes from and it operates in almost everyone and in every culture regardless of whether it's religious or not.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2013 18:28:12 GMT -5
Okay....care to discuss it, or elaborate? When I read that comment I immediately thought of this You know the God Complex thngy A psychosis based in uncontrolled narcissism, inflated arrogance and a perceived need to subjugate and/or ridicule other individuals deemed to be inferior or unworthy.Of course the person that has such a complex is completely blinded to it, being in a state of denial. If one actually tries what was suggested, its not likely that those concerns will remain ;-) If one remains only with the "I am God" part sure. But when one moves from the first part to the second part quite the opposite happens, in that a kind of profound unity in God is experienced, which leaves no room for narcissism ;-) what I find that happens is that in the beginning of feeling repeatedly the thought: "I am God" one can very quickly feel the truth of this, but then mind moves and feels a kind of guilt or even fear at thinking this thought...so what begins as as obvious truth gets pushed back by fear or guilt....when that happens, switch to repeatedly feeling the "We are God" thought and the awareness of being God returns but without the guilt or fear that mind creates. But with the awareness of "We are God", there is still a kind of personification, so in the last bit you shift awareness to "THIS is God"....and the personification fades away. All are true: I am God We are God THIS is God Explore by degrees.... its just a thing to try for those that have trouble with experiencing God or their God Nature. These concerns over narcism seem like vestiges cultural imprintation steeped in kind of "fear god" Christianity that has a bit too much of greek mythology built into it. In the east, folks are revered and loved for realizing that "They are God" While in the west they often ridiculed as being narcissistic lol but in the latter, it just seems like a kind of personal fear or something.
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Post by nowhereman on Oct 7, 2013 18:31:35 GMT -5
When I read that comment I immediately thought of this You know the God Complex thngy A psychosis based in uncontrolled narcissism, inflated arrogance and a perceived need to subjugate and/or ridicule other individuals deemed to be inferior or unworthy.Of course the person that has such a complex is completely blinded to it, being in a state of denial. If one actually tries what was suggested, its not likely that those concerns will remain ;-) If one remains only with the "I am God" part sure. But when one moves from the first part to the second part quite the opposite happens, in that a kind of profound unity in God is experienced, which leaves no room for narcissism ;-) what I find that happens is that in the beginning of feeling repeatedly the thought: "I am God" one can very quickly feel the truth of this, but then mind moves and feels a kind of guilt or even fear at thinking this thought...so what begins as as obvious truth gets pushed back by fear or guilt....when that happens, switch to repeatedly feeling the "We are God" thought and the awareness of being God returns but without the guilt or fear that mind creates. But with the awareness of "We are God", there is still a kind of personification, so in the last bit you shift awareness to "THIS is God"....and the personification fades away. All are true: I am God We are God THIS is God Explore by degrees.... its just a thing to try for those that have trouble with experiencing God or their God Nature. Honestly, these concerns over narcism seem like vestiges cultural steeped in kind of "fear god" Christianity that has a bit too much of greek mythology built into it. In the east, folks are revered and loved fir realizing that "They are God" While in the west they often ridiculed as being narcissistic lol but in the latter, it just seems like a kind of personal fear or something. Understood..I certainly was not implying this was the issue with you
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Post by nowhereman on Oct 7, 2013 18:34:55 GMT -5
Becoming truly atheist is not so easy to do. It's not so hard to get rid of the idea of the bearded old man in the sky. But what Lacan calls "the big Other" is much more difficult to get rid of. When we say "one doesn't do it" in response to some despicable act, who is this "one"? It's the "big Other". That's the place where the idea about God comes from and it operates in almost everyone and in every culture regardless of whether it's religious or not. As they say "There are no atheists in foxholes" for those that may not know a foxhole is a old military term of making a temporary bunker . All it takes is one accurate bomb and whoof!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2013 18:37:25 GMT -5
If one actually tries what was suggested, its not likely that those concerns will remain ;-) If one remains only with the "I am God" part sure. But when one moves from the first part to the second part quite the opposite happens, in that a kind of profound unity in God is experienced, which leaves no room for narcissism ;-) what I find that happens is that in the beginning of feeling repeatedly the thought: "I am God" one can very quickly feel the truth of this, but then mind moves and feels a kind of guilt or even fear at thinking this thought...so what begins as as obvious truth gets pushed back by fear or guilt....when that happens, switch to repeatedly feeling the "We are God" thought and the awareness of being God returns but without the guilt or fear that mind creates. But with the awareness of "We are God", there is still a kind of personification, so in the last bit you shift awareness to "THIS is God"....and the personification fades away. All are true: I am God We are God THIS is God Explore by degrees.... its just a thing to try for those that have trouble with experiencing God or their God Nature. Honestly, these concerns over narcism seem like vestiges cultural steeped in kind of "fear god" Christianity that has a bit too much of greek mythology built into it. In the east, folks are revered and loved for realizing that "They are God" While in the west they are often ridiculed as being narcissistic lol but in the latter, it just seems like a kind of personal fear or something. Understood..I certainly was not implying this was the issue with you No worries, I didn't take it that way ;-)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2013 18:40:31 GMT -5
Becoming truly atheist is not so easy to do. It's not so hard to get rid of the idea of the bearded old man in the sky. But what Lacan calls "the big Other" is much more difficult to get rid of. When we say "one doesn't do it" in response to some despicable act, who is this "one"? It's the "big Other". That's the place where the idea about God comes from and it operates in almost everyone and in every culture regardless of whether it's religious or not. As they say "There are no atheists in foxholes" for those that may not know a foxhole is a old military term of making a temporary bunker . All it takes is one accurate bomb and whoof! Haha, yeah on a more serious note, it seems like God becomes pretty obvious when one drops their socially imprinted ideas about God and just sits quietly with alertness and not knowing.
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Post by nowhereman on Oct 7, 2013 18:43:59 GMT -5
As they say "There are no atheists in foxholes" for those that may not know a foxhole is a old military term of making a temporary bunker . All it takes is one accurate bomb and whoof! Haha, yeah on a more serious note, it seems like God becomes pretty obvious when one drops their socially imprinted ideas about God and just sits quietly with alertness and not knowing. Lol you don't think that sitting in a foxhole is serious stuff! Yes just sitting in nature can bring many discoveries of God.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2013 18:47:02 GMT -5
Haha, yeah on a more serious note, it seems like God becomes pretty obvious when one drops their socially imprinted ideas about God and just sits quietly with alertness and not knowing. Lol you don't think that sitting in a foxhole is serious stuff! Yes just sitting in nature can bring many discoveries of God. Haha....point taken
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