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Post by nowhereman on Oct 10, 2013 22:53:06 GMT -5
Greetings.. If you will test the spirit of the messages i convey, rather than look for exceptions or contrary explanation, that would be helpful in understanding the message.. there is great beauty, diversity, mystery, and infinite potential in the still minded observations of Life happening.. there is also the opportunity for great distraction from the simple observation and understanding of our relationship with Life when we are trapped in our imagined realities or the imagined realities others have conditioned us to believe.. Unicorns and faeries exist in the imaginations of those that believe in them, and there other no less imaginary conditions that are conditioned into the psyche by socio-religious indoctrinations, and.. realizing the illusion of the conditioning, some people react by attaching to a different/contrary illusion, i.e.: from a Judeo-Christian conditioned belief to an Eastern mystic-guru belief.. more than the nature/type of the belief, it is the the conditioning that there must be a belief at all that has created the foundation for conflict.. The sky is blue, or the the tree provides shade, or those people working together are getting more done than when they were working independently.. those are still-minded observations that reveal aspects of our relationships with our existence.. looking at the observation that people working together are getting more done than when they were working independently reveals the actuality of 'parts' working together as a 'whole' with a result that is greater than the sum of the efforts of independent parts.. this is what is actually happening, but there are those that begin to imagine that there are no 'parts', believing a model that is contrary to the evidence observed in the absence of those imagined beliefs.. and, i am open to being convinced of the error of my understanding if that is the case, but appealing to imagined authority or claiming that i must 'realize' something that is not revealed through clarity is just more 'faith-based' conditioning.. It is essential, if the experiencer is interested in their relationship with existence, to see/experience that existence clearly, without the distortions of imagined beliefs.. belief systems of all types, religious, mystic, etc.. are dependent on conditioning the believer and preventing the experiencer from seeing/experiencing clearly, though some systems claim to bring their believers clarity.. it is the intent of belief systems, religious, mystic, Advaita, Buddhism, Vedic, etc.. to retain followers/believers and convert non-believers.. the clarity that understands the distorted effects imagined beliefs have on the experiencer's intention to see/experience their existence clearly, are a threat to the system of beliefs and are confronted as such.. Be still, and see.. Be well.. Thanks for clarifying what you observe from a still mind. Does a mind that is not still not know that the sky is blue or that the tree provides shade? You may be quite surprised as it would depend on how busy that mind is. Ever have those sun glasses on the top of your head while you are seeking everywhere to find them..or how about the guy who looses his expensive ring in his backyard at night but looks for it under the street light in front of his house because the light is better there..you just never know
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Post by tzujanli on Oct 10, 2013 23:08:17 GMT -5
Greetings.. Greetings.. If you will test the spirit of the messages i convey, rather than look for exceptions or contrary explanation, that would be helpful in understanding the message.. there is great beauty, diversity, mystery, and infinite potential in the still minded observations of Life happening.. there is also the opportunity for great distraction from the simple observation and understanding of our relationship with Life when we are trapped in our imagined realities or the imagined realities others have conditioned us to believe.. Unicorns and faeries exist in the imaginations of those that believe in them, and there other no less imaginary conditions that are conditioned into the psyche by socio-religious indoctrinations, and.. realizing the illusion of the conditioning, some people react by attaching to a different/contrary illusion, i.e.: from a Judeo-Christian conditioned belief to an Eastern mystic-guru belief.. more than the nature/type of the belief, it is the the conditioning that there must be a belief at all that has created the foundation for conflict.. The sky is blue, or the the tree provides shade, or those people working together are getting more done than when they were working independently.. those are still-minded observations that reveal aspects of our relationships with our existence.. looking at the observation that people working together are getting more done than when they were working independently reveals the actuality of 'parts' working together as a 'whole' with a result that is greater than the sum of the efforts of independent parts.. this is what is actually happening, but there are those that begin to imagine that there are no 'parts', believing a model that is contrary to the evidence observed in the absence of those imagined beliefs.. and, i am open to being convinced of the error of my understanding if that is the case, but appealing to imagined authority or claiming that i must 'realize' something that is not revealed through clarity is just more 'faith-based' conditioning.. It is essential, if the experiencer is interested in their relationship with existence, to see/experience that existence clearly, without the distortions of imagined beliefs.. belief systems of all types, religious, mystic, etc.. are dependent on conditioning the believer and preventing the experiencer from seeing/experiencing clearly, though some systems claim to bring their believers clarity.. it is the intent of belief systems, religious, mystic, Advaita, Buddhism, Vedic, etc.. to retain followers/believers and convert non-believers.. the clarity that understands the distorted effects imagined beliefs have on the experiencer's intention to see/experience their existence clearly, are a threat to the system of beliefs and are confronted as such.. Be still, and see.. Be well.. Thanks for clarifying what you observe from a still mind. Does a mind that is not still not know that the sky is blue or that the tree provides shade? Perhaps.. it's difficult to tell at times.. you, for instance say "it's all imagined", so what do you imagine? The sentences in question reference simple observable conditions, rather than imagined beliefs such as "oneness is truth".. Be well..
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Post by enigma on Oct 11, 2013 0:51:43 GMT -5
Thanks for clarifying what you observe from a still mind. Does a mind that is not still not know that the sky is blue or that the tree provides shade? Ha ha. I thought about commenting about that exact sentence, but then I thought, "Nah......." That's the difference between us. I'm missing that 'nah' filter that would keep me out of trouble. Hehe.
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Post by enigma on Oct 11, 2013 0:55:16 GMT -5
Thanks for clarifying what you observe from a still mind. Does a mind that is not still not know that the sky is blue or that the tree provides shade? You may be quite surprised as it would depend on how busy that mind is. Ever have those sun glasses on the top of your head while you are seeking everywhere to find them..or how about the guy who looses his expensive ring in his backyard at night but looks for it under the street light in front of his house because the light is better there..you just never know Stupidity is, perhaps, a separate issue.
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Post by enigma on Oct 11, 2013 0:58:28 GMT -5
Greetings.. Thanks for clarifying what you observe from a still mind. Does a mind that is not still not know that the sky is blue or that the tree provides shade? Perhaps.. it's difficult to tell at times.. you, for instance say "it's all imagined", so what do you imagine?The sentences in question reference simple observable conditions, rather than imagined beliefs such as "oneness is truth".. Be well.. Honestly, I imagine you have no idea what it is to still your mind.
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Post by tzujanli on Oct 11, 2013 8:40:22 GMT -5
Greetings.. Greetings.. Perhaps.. it's difficult to tell at times.. you, for instance say "it's all imagined", so what do you imagine?The sentences in question reference simple observable conditions, rather than imagined beliefs such as "oneness is truth".. Be well.. Honestly, I imagine you have no idea what it is to still your mind. Yes, you are fond of imagining your reality.. Be well..
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