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Post by serpentqueen on Jul 29, 2013 20:35:34 GMT -5
People can actually do the work to develop conscious contact, but those people are few and far between. The plant medicines are but a temporary shortcut to show you that this stuff is real and those worlds are there. We still have to do the work. Hi ishtahota...my name here is WhiteShaman. I chose that name because I have developed conscious contact and have had many experiences supporting what you are sharing here. I have met a WhiteShaman while journeying. A WhiteShaman is like a Buddhist native American. Something I relate to. The work you speak of, as I have found, is establishing a relationship. All relationships require work. It is a pleasure to hear you speak of such things at this particular time for me as I had convinced myself to discard all of the experiences I have had. No more though, and it feels good to come full circle. I just wanted to say that and to say hello. I would appreciate hearing from you the work you feel is needed. As far as mushrooms go and the likes of such comments, I have found that there are things that help the mind become free of its limitations. For me it is the sound of a Shamanic drum and for many of the ancestors it was plants and mushrooms. Blessings, WhiteShaman HI WHITESHAMAN!!! I've missed you!
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Post by whiteshaman on Jul 29, 2013 20:39:29 GMT -5
Hi ishtahota...my name here is WhiteShaman. I chose that name because I have developed conscious contact and have had many experiences supporting what you are sharing here. I have met a WhiteShaman while journeying. A WhiteShaman is like a Buddhist native American. Something I relate to. The work you speak of, as I have found, is establishing a relationship. All relationships require work. It is a pleasure to hear you speak of such things at this particular time for me as I had convinced myself to discard all of the experiences I have had. No more though, and it feels good to come full circle. I just wanted to say that and to say hello. I would appreciate hearing from you the work you feel is needed. As far as mushrooms go and the likes of such comments, I have found that there are things that help the mind become free of its limitations. For me it is the sound of a Shamanic drum and for many of the ancestors it was plants and mushrooms. Blessings, WhiteShaman HI WHITESHAMAN!!! I've missed you! Hi serpentqueen...........I have missed you too. Blessings to you. I'm sure that you are a breath of fresh air here.
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Post by serpentqueen on Jul 29, 2013 20:43:56 GMT -5
HI WHITESHAMAN!!! I've missed you! Hi serpentqueen...........I have missed you too. Blessings to you. I'm sure that you are a breath of fresh air here. Seems like it needed some extra estrogen... too much testosterone..
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Post by Ishtahota on Jul 29, 2013 20:56:59 GMT -5
Silver They do not think like we do and they are never going to. There is a lot of stuff we keep deep down inside and working threw what blocks our communication makes the getting ready to receive hard for some people. Can someone ask and not know it? Sure ! Sort of like praying for patients in a sweat lodge always gets you laughed at real hard. What you want is always moved way out Ito the future, until you become patient.
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Post by Ishtahota on Jul 29, 2013 21:02:17 GMT -5
Silver They do not think like we do and they are never going to. There is a lot of stuff we keep deep down inside and working threw what blocks our communication makes the getting ready to receive hard for some people. Can someone ask and not know it? Sure ! Sort of like praying for patients in a sweat lodge always gets you laughed at real hard. What you want is always moved way out Ito the future, until you become patient.
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Post by Ishtahota on Jul 29, 2013 21:25:30 GMT -5
Whiteshaman I follow the way of the Lakota and have for many years. I am just another stupid white man, but I have gone to the central alters and gotten permission to do what I do for people. Frank Fools Crow said that we had to become the hollow bone. It just means getting out of the way all that blocks conscious contact, and power that makes change in this world. Hatreds, resentments, and the biggest is our fears. And most of those are hidden from us.
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Post by laughter on Jul 29, 2013 21:36:53 GMT -5
to have a real experience there is the feeling and the object of this feelings? wxample. i feel the earth as still. i am the experiencer and the object of my experience is earth. although my experience of an earth is still is authentic feelings, we can say that thisis not a real experience since the earth spins very fast. so we call something real relatively. imo eating ice cream is as real experince as having an ephipany. although the later has a more lasting effecttell that to the bathroom scale in three days
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Post by hybrid on Jul 29, 2013 23:18:29 GMT -5
to have a real experience there is the feeling and the object of this feelings? wxample. i feel the earth as still. i am the experiencer and the object of my experience is earth. although my experience of an earth is still is authentic feelings, we can say that thisis not a real experience since the earth spins very fast. so we call something real relatively. imo eating ice cream is as real experince as having an ephipany. although the later has a more lasting effecttell that to the bathroom scale in three days . ooh, i heard when god speaks to you without words, it will burn yoru heart that can last say up to 15-20 years
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Post by serpentqueen on Jul 29, 2013 23:23:46 GMT -5
tell that to the bathroom scale in three days . ooh, i heard when god speaks to you without words, it will burn yoru heart that can last say up to 15-20 years What if God says, "Hazlenut gelato"?
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Post by hybrid on Jul 29, 2013 23:38:56 GMT -5
. ooh, i heard when god speaks to you without words, it will burn yoru heart that can last say up to 15-20 years What if God says, "Hazlenut gelato"? nope. that would be a second hand interpretation only. hahahHa on second thought if it so, you'll probably havecto run with that vision for as long as you live.
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Post by topology on Jul 29, 2013 23:44:09 GMT -5
People can actually do the work to develop conscious contact, but those people are few and far between. The plant medicines are but a temporary shortcut to show you that this stuff is real and those worlds are there. We still have to do the work. Hi ishtahota...my name here is WhiteShaman. I chose that name because I have developed conscious contact and have had many experiences supporting what you are sharing here. I have met a WhiteShaman while journeying. A WhiteShaman is like a Buddhist native American. Something I relate to. The work you speak of, as I have found, is establishing a relationship. All relationships require work. It is a pleasure to hear you speak of such things at this particular time for me as I had convinced myself to discard all of the experiences I have had. No more though, and it feels good to come full circle. I just wanted to say that and to say hello. I would appreciate hearing from you the work you feel is needed. As far as mushrooms go and the likes of such comments, I have found that there are things that help the mind become free of its limitations. For me it is the sound of a Shamanic drum and for many of the ancestors it was plants and mushrooms. Blessings, WhiteShaman If you're WhiteShaman resurrected, let me see the scars in your palms and the wound in your side! Welcome back to the land of the lost.
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Post by laughter on Jul 30, 2013 11:13:11 GMT -5
tell that to the bathroom scale in three days . ooh, i heard when god speaks to you without words, it will burn yoru heart that can last say up to 15-20 years I'll go check in the kitchen drawer where I put the written warranty for my Ginsu knife. "wait, that's not all! there's still more!"
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Post by serpentqueen on Jul 30, 2013 11:21:33 GMT -5
. ooh, i heard when god speaks to you without words, it will burn yoru heart that can last say up to 15-20 years I'll go check in the kitchen drawer where I put the written warranty for my Ginsu knife. "wait, that's not all! there's still more!" In the marketing biz, we call that "space bagging." You're welcome.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2013 12:15:13 GMT -5
Hi ishtahota...my name here is WhiteShaman. I chose that name because I have developed conscious contact and have had many experiences supporting what you are sharing here. I have met a WhiteShaman while journeying. A WhiteShaman is like a Buddhist native American. Something I relate to. The work you speak of, as I have found, is establishing a relationship. All relationships require work. It is a pleasure to hear you speak of such things at this particular time for me as I had convinced myself to discard all of the experiences I have had. No more though, and it feels good to come full circle. I just wanted to say that and to say hello. I would appreciate hearing from you the work you feel is needed. As far as mushrooms go and the likes of such comments, I have found that there are things that help the mind become free of its limitations. For me it is the sound of a Shamanic drum and for many of the ancestors it was plants and mushrooms. Blessings, WhiteShaman If you're WhiteShaman resurrected, let me see the scars in your palms and the wound in your side! Welcome back to the land of the lost. What are you here for if its not random Trolling? Surely its not to promote the "egoless" altruism that you hold folks so accountable to, that you do not hold yourself accountable too?
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Post by topology on Jul 30, 2013 12:32:10 GMT -5
If you're WhiteShaman resurrected, let me see the scars in your palms and the wound in your side! Welcome back to the land of the lost. What are you here for if its not random Trolling? Surely its not to promote the "egoless" altruism that you hold folks so accountable to, that you do not hold yourself accountable too? I see your ego is still throbbing from banging your head on the fourth wall. Chill Brony, WhiteShaman and I have rapport with each other from talking on SF a few years back.
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