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Post by laughter on Jul 19, 2013 8:14:41 GMT -5
Exactly, he gets off by telling people what to think and do, just like everyone else, which is okay, but it's embarrassing that he still isn't honest about it despite all his spiritual medals and all his super-duper wisdom. Whenever someone pulls the "stuck in mind" or "TMT" routine you can be 100% sure that the guy is full of shít.
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Post by topology on Jul 19, 2013 8:23:31 GMT -5
Hi Sunshine, It looks like I made quite the impression on you the last time you were here. I'm glad that you finally came clean about being both butterfly and sunshine as it looked like you created the sunshine account to simply give Tzu props, trying to cast the illusion that there were more people supporting him. But your creation of the second account just came across as you trying to manipulate people's perception, it was a deception. An obvious one as I had no problem recognizing you were the same person as butterfly: spiritualteachers.proboards.com/post/114870/threadYou have a superiority complex about being psychic and intuitive. You are still emotionally reactive as you have fixated on me because I irritate you so much. My first and, prior to this, only response to your return to the board was to say Hi!. Your two responses to me have both been personal attacks. I'll let you sit with that for a while. If it is so easy for me to get under your skin and get you to fixate on and attack me, maybe you're not really the master of your own house like you think you are. you have a selective memory ..and apparently i got under your skin, since you took the trouble to find back that post, a few pages/days after that i already came clean, for your convenience i copied what i wrote there...you conveniently forgot that or are you just a nasty liar...i bet the latter... you have an inferiority complex about not being psychic and intuitive...how´s that for pseudo psychology?
cant help you with your addiction...you are way superior to me intellectually and for healing a certain amount of humilty is required...
since you are such a friendly and helpful person could you explain to me please how i can ban you from my posts?
how does that banning work?Is there anything i can do to get you out of my life without losing my friends here as well??
of course you could show you are a real MAN, and just walk away from this site...John Wayne style...
I mean : you cant post in my threads?
or reply to my posts?
or i just wont get emails when you posted..or can i ban you altogether from this forum...
that would create an altogether new reality,
much more agreeable, as friendly and helpful persons like you arent really my thing you know...
oh, i am ranting, sorry about that...must be my spiritual ego... here´s the post, i use the word gnome, but i guess it should be troll,
back then i was so naive to think you werent doing this on purpose.But it is perverse, actually.
and GOODBYE
(i recall you were quite desperate the lastime we parted, so i send you some light to make it easier for you...)i am not worried about ´´my´´ spiritual ego.
I am empty and stuff passes through me I merely reflect. I feel pain from some of you, I transform it. But it is much easier if you cooperate...but little critters dont want that...they just want to gnaw and nag at Truth.
so... the ego?
i love it.
if it is there, so be it.
i hold it up to the light.
it dissolves.little by little.
btw
i said in another thread (way to liberation page 6 i think) that i was leaving because there were no ´´real teachers ´´ here on the forum. And nobody is interested in the content of what i say anyway. Because i point to a mind vastly superior. The words from there carry light in them, litterally, but you guys can not see that. You want my feeble and incompetent translations.
I refuse that.
All the time i was hampered ´´bud sniffer and the jurk´´ (that is TOPOLOGY) and i can find them everywhere, dont need a forum for that.
that evening though, after my ´´goodbeye´´ I had a stong telepathic message : ´´check out mr Tzujanli´´ so i went inside and there it was :
crystal clear , beautiful peace and clarity.Stillness, freshness (freshness cant be faked, it is a hallmark of Truth)
wow
i had never engaged in any of the threads where he was, because i saw just critters giving each other a hard time, and the unbearable noise of them drowned the silence of Mr Tzujanli.
so in a clumsy attempt to avoid the critters (bud etc.) i created another account (sunshine)because i felt I had done mr Tzujanli an injustice, (and you guys as well, for not pointing to him).
anyway, he doesnt need me or anybody.He can stand his ground,no matter what.
I wish you could feel what he´s got.He wants to share it.Just be silent.Humble, not to a´´body´´ with a name ´´tzujanli´´ but a Presence that is You , too
it is a simple delight just to be
in his Presence for a while.
thank you, sir.
i am not a nondualist, and i seem to have a different path. But you have a big part of the puzzle.
seperate :
if a rocket scientist comes to you and says he knows more about rocket science than you, is he lying, or a raging ego? if he says you play with firecrackers pretending to be rocket scientists?
there IS hierachy, and if you cant get that, you´ll never get anywhere but (perhaps)nirvana.That just needs concentration and perseverence...and your ego will rage on underneath.
prayer and humilty are part of my (gotta be careful here what i say) ´´tool´´ box.But i am not humble to critters who just mess people up for the fun of it.
if top says (another thread) ´´i have read the bhagavad gita and got from it what i wanted´´,
to me that sounds like ´´i already have a book´´...
meanwhile he asks stupid questions without ever referring to the tru content.he goes on about inconsistency but is mr inconsistent himself.
that is, btw not TOP, (who is Nothing) but a little part of him that thinks it is very clever.
He cannot see it because it s been there all his life, the mechanism is very subtle.
There´s lot of little ego´s inside one person.Either shut them up and go to nondual nirvana, OR wake up, hold them to the light. And then you have hierarchy.
God is a tiny bit bigger than your critters.
soo... i dont need a tiny gnome hanging on the leg of my pant,hampering my stride saying in a squeeky voice ``it´s that way , it is that way!´´ pointing to where i just come from.´´´
i can see where i am, and even where i am going.
and
i am not ´´done´´
ever.
wish you all the very best.
butterfly
Read more: spiritualteachers.proboards.com/thread/2682?page=17#ixzz2ZUijrLZh
Hi Sunshine. If you want to put someone on ignore, these are the steps: 1) Click on their name to bring up their profile 2) Click on the gear on the right hand side of the page to open the drop down menu 3) Click on Block to create the ignore. You will not see any posts I create, but you will still see people responding to me. I hope putting me on ignore makes this forum a more pleasant experience for you.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2013 8:48:11 GMT -5
well , that IS cool, dude.
i will try and see how that works.
it is a pity you never go into the subject matter i bring up. and it is a pity you think that LYING helps
people.assuming you mean well.But i still think you dont.
you just cant accept that you were hurt.So, keep up appearances..i will block you
you seem to think that if you give someone a candy (some practical advice) that gives you the right to step on
his toes real hard.(you did this before, reminding me that you helped me with some practical thing about posting a photo...(´´like hey i am not a bad guy! ..i helped you there remember?...multiple personality disorder)
You try so hard to annoy me that you even resort to lying...
that is why i ban you, bye bye
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Post by jazz on Jul 19, 2013 9:03:34 GMT -5
There seems to be an assumption that thoughts somehow affect reality. Well, they do, obviously, but perhaps not in the way it's assumed. "There's so much horror in the world and it shouldn't be like that. I need to do something about it, and if I don't have those kinds of thought, I'm careless, a bad person" etc etc. That's actually doing nothing. They do? Obviously? Am I missing something, here? No, obviously I was. Thanks
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Post by topology on Jul 19, 2013 9:17:08 GMT -5
well , that IS cool, dude. i will try and see how that works. it is a pity you never go into the subject matter i bring up. and it is a pity you think that LYING helps people.assuming you mean well.But i still think you dont. you just cant accept that you were hurt.So, keep up appearances..i will block you you seem to think that if you give someone a candy (some practical advice) that gives you the right to step on his toes real hard.(you did this before, reminding me that you helped me with some practical thing about posting a photo...(´´like hey i am not a bad guy! ..i helped you there remember?...multiple personality disorder) You try so hard to annoy me that you even resort to lying... that is why i ban you, bye bye Take care sunshine.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2013 10:40:30 GMT -5
Greetings.. Your reason is getting in the way of your awareness of the perception of children and adults. I perceive children and adults laughing and crying, living and dying.. it's observations, no 'reason' needed.. Be well.. As a perceiver you are neither an object nor do you have any solidity, essentially you are boundless... It is reason that entraps the totality of ourselves in the perceptions of children and adults laughing and crying, living and dying...
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Post by tzujanli on Jul 19, 2013 10:49:41 GMT -5
Greetings.. Greetings.. I perceive children and adults laughing and crying, living and dying.. it's observations, no 'reason' needed.. Be well.. As a perceiver you are neither an object nor do you have any solidity, essentially you are boundless... It is reason that entraps the totality of ourselves in the perceptions of children and adults laughing and crying, living and dying... I did not say or imply "totality", that is your desire to make me 'wrong'.. as i have stated many times, i am fully aware that we are not confined by physical presence.. i stated what i observed, you added what you wanted my observation to represent.. Be well..
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2013 11:15:17 GMT -5
Greetings.. As a perceiver you are neither an object nor do you have any solidity, essentially you are boundless... It is reason that entraps the totality of ourselves in the perceptions of children and adults laughing and crying, living and dying... I did not say or imply "totality", that is your desire to make me 'wrong'.. as i have stated many times, i am fully aware that we are not confined by physical presence.. i stated what i observed, you added what you wanted my observation to represent.. Be well.. It's your very own perception that is desiring to make you wrong. And it seems to do it quite a bit...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2013 16:10:56 GMT -5
Exactly, he gets off by telling people what to think and do, just like everyone else, which is okay, but it's embarrassing that he still isn't honest about it despite all his spiritual medals and all his super-duper wisdom. Whenever someone pulls the "stuck in mind" or "TMT" routine you can be 100% sure that the guy is full of shít. "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiNq8gvkbcg"
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2013 16:12:13 GMT -5
He hasn't run away. He's bowed out of a conversation that isn't going to go anywhere. When you admit to yourself that you're only adding to the problems that you write about, because you are too scared to do anything different, then maybe, he will be moved to stay with you longer.Woman, that's what I'm talking about. He is only "discussing" when people submit to his narrative. And when they don't, like in this case, then he and his fans say that the discussion isn't going anywhere, that I'm too scared, adding to problems, etc. It's reeking of ego, which is okay, it's only when one isn't honest about it that it becomes a problem. Your own narrative don't change much either Q.
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Post by ???????? ???????????? on Jul 19, 2013 16:48:40 GMT -5
Woman, that's what I'm talking about. He is only "discussing" when people submit to his narrative. And when they don't, like in this case, then he and his fans say that the discussion isn't going anywhere, that I'm too scared, adding to problems, etc. It's reeking of ego, which is okay, it's only when one isn't honest about it that it becomes a problem. Your own narrative don't change much either Q.Woman, actually it does and I have plenty to choose from. And even if it didn't, why bring up this point when we're discussing Bobby?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2013 17:16:43 GMT -5
Your own narrative don't change much either Q. Woman, actually it does and I have plenty to choose from. And even if it didn't, why bring up this point when we're discussing Bobby? It's only right that you now wish to kill off your teacher, and Mr. Harwood is well aware of that.
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Post by ???????? ???????????? on Jul 19, 2013 17:38:34 GMT -5
Woman, actually it does and I have plenty to choose from. And even if it didn't, why bring up this point when we're discussing Bobby? It's only right that you now wish to kill off your teacher, and Mr. Harwood is well aware of that. No, it's not right and Bobby is a lot smarter than you think. I don't speak about my teachers, much less ill.
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Post by laughter on Jul 19, 2013 18:20:09 GMT -5
well , that IS cool, dude. i will try and see how that works. it is a pity you never go into the subject matter i bring up. and it is a pity you think that LYING helps people.assuming you mean well.But i still think you dont. you just cant accept that you were hurt.So, keep up appearances..i will block you you seem to think that if you give someone a candy (some practical advice) that gives you the right to step on his toes real hard.(you did this before, reminding me that you helped me with some practical thing about posting a photo...(´´like hey i am not a bad guy! ..i helped you there remember?...multiple personality disorder) You try so hard to annoy me that you even resort to lying... that is why i ban you, bye bye Take care sunshine. Was there an eclipse that didn't make it into the almanac or sumthin'?
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Post by tzujanli on Jul 19, 2013 19:37:52 GMT -5
Greetings.. Greetings.. I did not say or imply "totality", that is your desire to make me 'wrong'.. as i have stated many times, i am fully aware that we are not confined by physical presence.. i stated what i observed, you added what you wanted my observation to represent.. Be well.. It's your very own perception that is desiring to make you wrong. And it seems to do it quite a bit... Good on ya.. stay with it, hammer away at it.. tell us, though, how does it 'feel'? Be well..
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