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Post by jazz on Jul 18, 2013 9:41:42 GMT -5
There seems to be an assumption that thoughts somehow affect reality. Well, they do, obviously, but perhaps not in the way it's assumed. "There's so much horror in the world and it shouldn't be like that. I need to do something about it, and if I don't have those kinds of thought, I'm careless, a bad person" etc etc.
That's actually doing nothing.
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Post by Beingist on Jul 18, 2013 10:00:13 GMT -5
There seems to be an assumption that thoughts somehow affect reality. Well, they do, obviously, but perhaps not in the way it's assumed. "There's so much horror in the world and it shouldn't be like that. I need to do something about it, and if I don't have those kinds of thought, I'm careless, a bad person" etc etc. That's actually doing nothing. They do? Obviously? Am I missing something, here?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2013 10:50:36 GMT -5
Well, that so-called woo-woo stuff is only woo-woo to people who rely on their physical senses. To those, who use some of the other senses as well this stuff is perfectly real. Saying, "it's woo-woo" to them is like an uneducated person telling a scientist that there is nothing like atoms or bacteria or whatever, invisible by naked eye. Merrick True. The point of calling it woo-woo though is more for the peeps who obsess over energy and believe in some kind of ascension, instead of simply seeing it as the way the universe has always worked. No more special than going to the gym to lift weights and exercise. ´´t he peeps who obsess over energy and believe in some kind of ascension, instead of simply seeing it as the way the universe has always worked.´´
so glad to know there is someone out there who knows ´´how the universe has always worked.You up for the nobelprize then toppie??still hurts like hell dont it toppie.? better push that ''energy'' away, . opening this painful energy to the light, spirit, wtever you want to call it, that is ascending. then, the light dissolves the pain and somtimes (often) subsequently touches upon a deeper layer of past trauma, which comes to the surface.That may or may not cristallise in situations in real life that will help you to resolve (dissolve) these old patterns.You know all that, so why take snipeshots at me?Stop playing games dude. what i get from you is only the hurt, and not the light.Why you sit there with your snipergun , shooting at everything that doesnt fit your beliefsystem. though now you have become quite creepy as well, doing it in unrelated threads, while greeting me with a fake smile ''welcome back sunshine'' in another thread. Or do you too suffer from multiple personality disorder? That would explain it all. Hold the nasty bastard in check please? luckily i get a lot of support from some others here who apparently DO know what i mean with energy, and not words.Thanks guys/gals.! and to clarify : i may be psychic, or partly cosmic conscious, (if such a term exists)but i do not pick brains.Humans are totally uninteresting, generally.People are afraid i can see their dark secrets.Theu think they are the only one.After a year it gets boring and cumbersome even. thankfully there is now some higher ''guidance'' that just shows me what i need to know to be able to (re) act in a certain situation. you can call that woo woo, i dont care.Your ignorance, not mine. What i notice is that, while living in the perfect flow (as astrokite/butterfly i gave a few examples of how that works in my life, kind of ''jed'=ish.),( i know very well what that means), sometimes you need all attention, as a ''catastrophic'' energy may slip in unguarded in an instant, as happened to me a while ago(a couple of weeks after i had left the forum ).Then it is back with feet on the ground until that particular pattern has run its course, with me just being there, paying attention, exposing it to the light. Fetch water,carry wood.(i do that litterally.btw) That is ascension again. But everytime, i get wider,clearer..I know, advaitist arent interested in all that. They disconnect, discard the ego. Escapism.Psychology calls it dissociation. Bless them if they can get free from this ego shit.Just dont claim it is the only thing one can do.Because that is real ignorance.If you like read my reply to Alfio in the other thread. enjoy your life, receive some light, it is for free. sunshine
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Post by topology on Jul 18, 2013 11:26:44 GMT -5
True. The point of calling it woo-woo though is more for the peeps who obsess over energy and believe in some kind of ascension, instead of simply seeing it as the way the universe has always worked. No more special than going to the gym to lift weights and exercise. ´´t he peeps who obsess over energy and believe in some kind of ascension, instead of simply seeing it as the way the universe has always worked.´´
so glad to know there is someone out there who knows ´´how the universe has always worked.You up for the nobelprize then toppie??still hurts like hell dont it toppie.? better push that ''energy'' away, . opening this painful energy to the light, spirit, wtever you want to call it, that is ascending. then, the light dissolves the pain and somtimes (often) subsequently touches upon a deeper layer of past trauma, which comes to the surface.That may or may not cristallise in situations in real life that will help you to resolve (dissolve) these old patterns.You know all that, so why take snipeshots at me?Stop playing games dude. what i get from you is only the hurt, and not the light.Why you sit there with your snipergun , shooting at everything that doesnt fit your beliefsystem. though now you have become quite creepy as well, doing it in unrelated threads, while greeting me with a fake smile ''welcome back sunshine'' in another thread. Or do you too suffer from multiple personality disorder? That would explain it all. Hold the nasty bastard in check please? luckily i get a lot of support from some others here who apparently DO know what i mean with energy, and not words.Thanks guys/gals.! and to clarify : i may be psychic, or partly cosmic conscious, (if such a term exists)but i do not pick brains.Humans are totally uninteresting, generally.People are afraid i can see their dark secrets.Theu think they are the only one.After a year it gets boring and cumbersome even. thankfully there is now some higher ''guidance'' that just shows me what i need to know to be able to (re) act in a certain situation. you can call that woo woo, i dont care.Your ignorance, not mine. What i notice is that, while living in the perfect flow (as astrokite/butterfly i gave a few examples of how that works in my life, kind of ''jed'=ish.),( i know very well what that means), sometimes you need all attention, as a ''catastrophic'' energy may slip in unguarded in an instant, as happened to me a while ago(a couple of weeks after i had left the forum ).Then it is back with feet on the ground until that particular pattern has run its course, with me just being there, paying attention, exposing it to the light. Fetch water,carry wood.(i do that litterally.btw) That is ascension again. But everytime, i get wider,clearer..I know, advaitist arent interested in all that. They disconnect, discard the ego. Escapism.Psychology calls it dissociation. Bless them if they can get free from this ego shit.Just dont claim it is the only thing one can do.Because that is real ignorance.If you like read my reply to Alfio in the other thread. enjoy your life, receive some light, it is for free. sunshine Hi Sunshine, It looks like I made quite the impression on you the last time you were here. I'm glad that you finally came clean about being both butterfly and sunshine as it looked like you created the sunshine account to simply give Tzu props, trying to cast the illusion that there were more people supporting him. But your creation of the second account just came across as you trying to manipulate people's perception, it was a deception. An obvious one as I had no problem recognizing you were the same person as butterfly: spiritualteachers.proboards.com/post/114870/threadYou have a superiority complex about being psychic and intuitive. You are still emotionally reactive as you have fixated on me because I irritate you so much. My first and, prior to this, only response to your return to the board was to say Hi!. Your two responses to me have both been personal attacks. I'll let you sit with that for a while. If it is so easy for me to get under your skin and get you to fixate on and attack me, maybe you're not really the master of your own house like you think you are.
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Post by ???????? ???????????? on Jul 18, 2013 14:12:07 GMT -5
1. No, Gorrell is not escaping reality by changing its very texture. She sees "what is" and responds to it directly rather than seeing it through the mediation of thought. She sees reality more clearly than people who see it through the filters of thought. Not seeing her kind of reality clearly and responding only through mediation of thought is "what is" for us. This "ignorance" is real and effective, it can't be discussed away. So she clearly does inhabit another kind of reality if she doesn't share our collective madness. Your "what is" is not at all obvious, if it were then there would never be a disagreement. Uglyness is one of the effects of our "what is", you can ignore and escape it but it's still real for normal people. But of course you think in terms of "a solution". You are not at all in solidarity with normal people if you deny the reality of their condition. They are just as action-oriented as you are. The only difference is that they act upon a different context than you. Our horrific acts and the mental constructs of which they are an effect can't be separated. "What is" for us is precisely that, you're in denial if you reject it as merely a distortion of something. Who we are and what controls us is not only your "what is", it's also the illusion that causes us to torture and kill. The so-called illusion is as much a "what is" as your absolute reality. Nonsense! You are talking about yourself as if you are an infallible saint. Sages clearly don't always know what they have to do, they clearly don't always promote "peace, understanding and tolerance". In claiming that they do you're already admitting that sages do think in terms of "huge abstractions" and are not at all immune against illusion. When talking about children it's dishonest to only pick the positive aspects. Children are cruel, profoundly egotistical and very stupid creatures. And before that they are just animals.
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Post by ???????? ???????????? on Jul 18, 2013 14:16:41 GMT -5
No, they don't. And no, they don't. Yes they do! No roads from Sardinia lead to Rome.
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Post by laughter on Jul 18, 2013 14:28:33 GMT -5
No roads from Sardinia lead to Rome. ur wrong! it's US-52 E!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2013 14:46:42 GMT -5
Children are cruel, profoundly egotistical and very stupid creatures. That is a racist statement.
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Post by silver on Jul 18, 2013 14:56:51 GMT -5
Children are cruel, profoundly egotistical and very stupid creatures. That is a racist statement.Please, explain how.
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Post by topology on Jul 18, 2013 15:03:29 GMT -5
That is a racist statement. Please, explain how. Calling each other racist is how wren and CPQ have bonded over the years. Let 'em flirt in peace.
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Post by ???????? ???????????? on Jul 18, 2013 15:59:56 GMT -5
Children are cruel, profoundly egotistical and very stupid creatures. That is a racist statement.No, woman, it isn't.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2013 16:12:49 GMT -5
That is a racist statement. No, woman, it isn't. Yes it is boy.
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Post by ???????? ???????????? on Jul 18, 2013 16:25:57 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2013 16:33:18 GMT -5
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Post by zendancer on Jul 18, 2013 16:39:56 GMT -5
1. No, Gorrell is not escaping reality by changing its very texture. She sees "what is" and responds to it directly rather than seeing it through the mediation of thought. She sees reality more clearly than people who see it through the filters of thought. Not seeing her kind of reality clearly and responding only through mediation of thought is "what is" for us. This "ignorance" is real and effective, it can't be discussed away. So she clearly does inhabit another kind of reality if she doesn't share our collective madness. Your "what is" is not at all obvious, if it were then there would never be a disagreement. Uglyness is one of the effects of our "what is", you can ignore and escape it but it's still real for normal people. But of course you think in terms of "a solution". You are not at all in solidarity with normal people if you deny the reality of their condition. They are just as action-oriented as you are. The only difference is that they act upon a different context than you. Our horrific acts and the mental constructs of which they are an effect can't be separated. "What is" for us is precisely that, you're in denial if you reject it as merely a distortion of something. Who we are and what controls us is not only your "what is", it's also the illusion that causes us to torture and kill. The so-called illusion is as much a "what is" as your absolute reality. Nonsense! You are talking about yourself as if you are an infallible saint. Sages clearly don't always know what they have to do, they clearly don't always promote "peace, understanding and tolerance". In claiming that they do you're already admitting that sages do think in terms of "huge abstractions" and are not at all immune against illusion. When talking about children it's dishonest to only pick the positive aspects. Children are cruel, profoundly egotistical and very stupid creatures. And before that they are just animals. *puts palms together in gassho, bows, and walks away in silence*
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