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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 12:26:52 GMT -5
Emptiness of emptiness. In The Art of Living (2001) the 14th Dalai Lama says, "As your insight into the ultimate nature of reality is deepened and enhanced, you will develop a perception of reality from which you will perceive phenomena and events as sort of illusory, illusion-like, and this mode of perceiving reality will permeate all your interactions with reality. [...] Even emptiness itself, which is seen as the ultimate nature of reality, is not absolute, nor does it exist independently. We cannot conceive of emptiness as independent of a basis of phenomena, because when we examine the nature of reality, we find that it is empty of inherent existence. Then if we are to take that emptiness itself is an object and look for its essence, again we will find that it is empty of inherent existence. Therefore the Buddha taught the emptiness of emptiness."
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 12:35:44 GMT -5
There's form. And there's the emptiness of form. And therefore there's the emptiness of emptiness. What's next? *cat nap*
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Post by Beingist on Jun 12, 2013 12:38:05 GMT -5
Emptiness of emptiness. In The Art of Living (2001) the 14th Dalai Lama says, "As your insight into the ultimate nature of reality is deepened and enhanced, you will develop a perception of reality from which you will perceive phenomena and events as sort of illusory, illusion-like, and this mode of perceiving reality will permeate all your interactions with reality. [...] Even emptiness itself, which is seen as the ultimate nature of reality, is not absolute, nor does it exist independently. We cannot conceive of emptiness as independent of a basis of phenomena, because when we examine the nature of reality, we find that it is empty of inherent existence. Then if we are to take that emptiness itself is an object and look for its essence, again we will find that it is empty of inherent existence. Therefore the Buddha taught the emptiness of emptiness." Well, the 14th Dalai Lama is obviously wrong for even questioning existence.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 12:44:53 GMT -5
Emptiness of emptiness. In The Art of Living (2001) the 14th Dalai Lama says, "As your insight into the ultimate nature of reality is deepened and enhanced, you will develop a perception of reality from which you will perceive phenomena and events as sort of illusory, illusion-like, and this mode of perceiving reality will permeate all your interactions with reality. [...] Even emptiness itself, which is seen as the ultimate nature of reality, is not absolute, nor does it exist independently. We cannot conceive of emptiness as independent of a basis of phenomena, because when we examine the nature of reality, we find that it is empty of inherent existence. Then if we are to take that emptiness itself is an object and look for its essence, again we will find that it is empty of inherent existence. Therefore the Buddha taught the emptiness of emptiness." Well, the 14th Dalai Lama is obviously wrong for even questioning existence. <speculation>The 14th DL seems like a pretty fun-loving guy. I imagine if he were asked "Do you exist?" he'd probably just have a good laugh. And then he might pontificate like above. </speculation> Is emptiness like awareness?
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Post by silver on Jun 12, 2013 12:47:13 GMT -5
Well, the 14th Dalai Lama is obviously wrong for even questioning existence. <speculation>The 14th DL seems like a pretty fun-loving guy. I imagine if he were asked "Do you exist?" he'd probably just have a good laugh. And then he might pontificate like above. </speculation> Is emptiness like awareness? Ok. I'll play along. No, emptiness isn't awareness because it's that we're awareness that we're aware of the emptiness.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 12:51:06 GMT -5
Is emptiness like awareness? Awareness dissolves into emptiness.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 13:10:09 GMT -5
Is emptiness like awareness? Awareness dissolves into emptiness. Is awareness form? I thought it had not properties or attributes?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 13:11:07 GMT -5
<speculation>The 14th DL seems like a pretty fun-loving guy. I imagine if he were asked "Do you exist?" he'd probably just have a good laugh. And then he might pontificate like above. </speculation> Is emptiness like awareness? Ok. I'll play along. No, emptiness isn't awareness because it's that we're awareness that we're aware of the emptiness. How can one be aware of emptiness?
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Post by silver on Jun 12, 2013 13:11:59 GMT -5
Ok. I'll play along. No, emptiness isn't awareness because it's that we're awareness that we're aware of the emptiness. How can one be aware of emptiness? This whole thread is about emptiness - are you saying you're not aware of the state of emptiness's existence?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 13:15:23 GMT -5
zero and infinity, nothing and everything
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Post by silver on Jun 12, 2013 13:16:04 GMT -5
zero and infinity, nothing and everything Is that your final answer?
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Post by silver on Jun 12, 2013 13:17:10 GMT -5
Emptiness feels good in here. No bindings, I miss air, though - reminds me of The Langoliers.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 13:22:32 GMT -5
How can one be aware of emptiness? This whole thread is about emptiness - are you saying you're not aware of the state of emptiness's existence? Just contemplating, questioning. As usual. It seems to me that it would be impossible to be aware of something that has no attributes, characteristics, traits, or traces that could be objects of awareness. That's why I asked you that question. To answer your question: No. I'm not aware of the state of emptiness' existence. I'm not sure what that means, for the most part. Emptiness is implied. Maybe that's all there is.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 13:24:07 GMT -5
Awareness dissolves into emptiness. Is awareness form? I thought it had not properties or attributes? You've given it an attribute by asking if it's like, emptiness.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 13:25:41 GMT -5
zero and infinity, nothing and everything Is that your final answer? This is a symbol I ran across recently. Everything is within nothing. It's interesting. But the symbol itself is within what?
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