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Post by sharon on Nov 30, 2012 3:12:32 GMT -5
Translated by V.Nabokov FEDOR TYUTCHEV (1803-1873) Attributions are appreciated. Did you Thank Google?
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Post by enigma on Nov 30, 2012 3:52:43 GMT -5
Translated by V.Nabokov FEDOR TYUTCHEV (1803-1873) Attributions are appreciated. Did you Thank Google? I always bow in reverence to The Google. ;D
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Post by sharon on Nov 30, 2012 4:04:08 GMT -5
Did you Thank Google? I always bow in reverence to The Google. ;D Same same. It is a beautiful poem though. Thanx Arisha.
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Post by enigma on Nov 30, 2012 4:04:50 GMT -5
I always bow in reverence to The Google. ;D Same same. It is a beautiful poem though. Thanx Arisha. Yes, it is.
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Post by sharon on Nov 30, 2012 14:30:50 GMT -5
"Shut up, hide, and Thai and their feelings and dreams - Let the psychic depths to rise and go ONET silently as the stars in the night - Admire them - and keep quiet. As the heart express itself? How can another understand you? Will he, than do you live? thought expressed is a lie. Exploding, rebelled keys - eat them - and keep quiet. Only live in myself to know how to - there are a whole world in your soul mysteriously magical thoughts, their stun external noise, Daytime dispersed rays - Heed their Peña and shut up! ."
The google translation of the Russian text is interesting ... if not a little less poetic.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2012 14:44:59 GMT -5
Exploding, rebelled keys - eat them - and keep quiet. yum!
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Post by sharon on Nov 30, 2012 14:47:20 GMT -5
Exploding, rebelled keys - eat them - and keep quiet. yum! "thought expressed is a lie. "
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Post by Beingist on Nov 30, 2012 14:51:20 GMT -5
"thought expressed is a lie. " Liar.
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Post by sharon on Nov 30, 2012 14:58:49 GMT -5
"thought expressed is a lie. " Liar. Ditto.
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Post by Beingist on Nov 30, 2012 15:37:46 GMT -5
Liar. Ditto. ;D I know. Kinda hard getting away from that, huh?
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Post by sharon on Nov 30, 2012 17:47:04 GMT -5
Ditto. ;D I know. Kinda hard getting away from that, huh? *smiles, logs out and closes tab*
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Post by arisha on Dec 1, 2012 22:44:10 GMT -5
NLP, not NLP... There are always criteria for what is NLP, and what is not NLP.
It's an obvious absurdity that every word is NLP, and that we use NLP in our everyday life, - but such a nonsense is promoted as something true. The NLPer will use even absurdities if they can help him hypnotize somebody with his words. He "doesn't notice" the obvious nonsense if it is said by the follower, or if this nonsense supports his idea, but he will intentionnally create distortions in other's ideas to present them as a nonsense.
The NLPer is not looking, and doesn't allow any consensus, or mutual understanding. All other ideas are simply ignored. They are declared wrong immediately. The NLPer is the only one who decides what is true.
His "truth" is to be implanted on the subconscious level of all who came here, - without exception.
This is what Enigma is doing. He is so much sure that everybody is under his control that he even has made the rule: either a person shares his ideas, - or melts down and leaves the forum ( as he has told me lately).
Does anybody behaves like that in the everyday life? Then what every day NLP are we talking here about? It's not true that every word can be NLP.
The ugly hints are dropped, - with or without words, with situations, here and there, - to create the corresponding CONTEXT in the minds of those who starts going out of control. Those people seem to have no idea about such kind of manipulations. Just because they are good normal guys who are trying to do their best on this forum to compare views, and to find their way, - they are not inclined to take part in the strange games played here.
But without the knowledge about the tools used by manipulators, they don't see how the influence upon their subconscious can be made.
The guy who is writing his thesis on the subject of NLP should know about the tricks, - but he seems to be not competent enough because of the lack of knowledge and education. But Enigma knows, of course, and is practicing his NLP skills on the members of the forum.
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Post by topology on Dec 1, 2012 23:21:20 GMT -5
NLP, not NLP... There are always criteria for what is NLP, and what is not NLP. It's an obvious absurdity that every word is NLP, and that we use NLP in our everyday life, - but such a nonsense is promoted as something true. The NLPer will use even absurdities if they can help him hypnotize somebody with his words. He "doesn't notice" the obvious nonsense if it is said by the follower, or if this nonsense supports his idea, but he will intentionnally create distortions in other's ideas to present them as a nonsense. The NLPer is not looking, and doesn't allow any consensus, or mutual understanding. All other ideas are simply ignored. They are declared wrong immediately. The NLPer is the only one who decides what is true. His "truth" is to be implanted on the subconscious level of all who came here, - without exception. This is what Enigma is doing. He is so much sure that everybody is under his control that he even has made the rule: either a person shares his ideas, - or melts down and leaves the forum ( as he has told me lately). Does anybody behaves like that in the everyday life? Then what every day NLP are we talking here about? It's not true that every word can be NLP. The ugly hints are dropped, - with or without words, with situations, here and there, - to create the corresponding CONTEXT in the minds of those who starts going out of control. Those people seem to have no idea about such kind of manipulations. Just because they are good normal guys who are trying to do their best on this forum to compare views, and to find their way, - they are not inclined to take part in the strange games played here. But without the knowledge about the tools used by manipulators, they don't see how the influence upon their subconscious can be made. The guy who is writing his thesis on the subject of NLP should know about the tricks, - but he seems to be not competent enough because of the lack of knowledge and education. But Enigma knows, of course, and is practicing his NLP skills on the members of the forum. Who is writing their thesis on the subject of NLP?
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Post by enigma on Dec 1, 2012 23:37:22 GMT -5
This is what Enigma is doing. He is so much sure that everybody is under his control that he even has made the rule: either a person shares his ideas, - or melts down and leaves the forum ( as he has told me lately). I do agree that some are unconsciously manipulating here to a degree that is distracting and potentially destructive, and perhaps you are the prime example. I give you the benefit of the doubt in calling it unconscious. I'd say the greatest benefit is in becoming conscious of it. Your statement above could easily be taken to imply that I've had private conversations with you in which I stated the above, since it's obvious that I never said that on the forum. Of course I never said it at all. It seems to me that detonation occurs when one is very non-plussed with their own reflection, and can't find a way to alter it. It's not about 'my ideas' at all. It's not about 'true ideas'.
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Post by enigma on Dec 1, 2012 23:39:07 GMT -5
NLP, not NLP... There are always criteria for what is NLP, and what is not NLP. It's an obvious absurdity that every word is NLP, and that we use NLP in our everyday life, - but such a nonsense is promoted as something true. The NLPer will use even absurdities if they can help him hypnotize somebody with his words. He "doesn't notice" the obvious nonsense if it is said by the follower, or if this nonsense supports his idea, but he will intentionnally create distortions in other's ideas to present them as a nonsense. The NLPer is not looking, and doesn't allow any consensus, or mutual understanding. All other ideas are simply ignored. They are declared wrong immediately. The NLPer is the only one who decides what is true. His "truth" is to be implanted on the subconscious level of all who came here, - without exception. This is what Enigma is doing. He is so much sure that everybody is under his control that he even has made the rule: either a person shares his ideas, - or melts down and leaves the forum ( as he has told me lately). Does anybody behaves like that in the everyday life? Then what every day NLP are we talking here about? It's not true that every word can be NLP. The ugly hints are dropped, - with or without words, with situations, here and there, - to create the corresponding CONTEXT in the minds of those who starts going out of control. Those people seem to have no idea about such kind of manipulations. Just because they are good normal guys who are trying to do their best on this forum to compare views, and to find their way, - they are not inclined to take part in the strange games played here. But without the knowledge about the tools used by manipulators, they don't see how the influence upon their subconscious can be made. The guy who is writing his thesis on the subject of NLP should know about the tricks, - but he seems to be not competent enough because of the lack of knowledge and education. But Enigma knows, of course, and is practicing his NLP skills on the members of the forum. Who is writing their thesis on the subject of NLP? I was wondering if you had changed the theme of your thesis lately. I see now it was just more NLP programming.
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