astarxy
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Live and let live
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Post by astarxy on Jan 30, 2011 16:40:59 GMT -5
great answer, thank you! i came to the same conclusions during the last six months when the situation for me had been the worst... also, as you mention, because of my acceptance of her negative influence. as being someone not used to such dose of hypocrisy i reacted pretty naturally... and then stepped into a phase when i couldn't live in such pain any more. gradually i started to pick up, i believe i gained from this experience enourmously. still, not searching for excuses, as my hell is already over, but maby trying to explain a bit more... she is not alone. she's got people on her side who believe her stories and those people made some real hard time for me... being on higher positions and all i could do was to stick to my truth... my way. i know you can tell she bothers me, i wrote it in my posts. i asked for your opinion regarding it, what to do... as for quitting... you might be thinking twice about that statement if you knew her. as i said, she's like noone i've met before. her life consist of lying and stabbing people's backs, it's the only way she knows and she's agressive as hell. i'm not judging, just pointing to facts. i'm beyong judging by now... i have found a way, accepting her only as someone who's sitting next to me. thnx.
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Post by frankshank on Jan 30, 2011 16:58:00 GMT -5
This is all about how you are reacting to it. You are the key. When I'm feeling tense I do a spot of Tai Chi. It really is excellent. She wont affect you if you've got a big smile on your face as though you've been smoking something illegal (you may get locked up though). You'll probably become friends because she must be really miserable if she is the way you describe. She'll open up to someone who doesn't get involved in an ego battle. Plugging it again but try 'David Carradine an introduction for beginners to AM & PM Tai Chi' on DVD. Half an hour of Tai chi for the mind a day and it'll all sort itself out!
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Post by enigma on Jan 30, 2011 17:33:40 GMT -5
eckhart also told a story about a crazy neighbor he had who used to come by and fill his world with all sorts of negative identified stories about stuff. once he woke up, and *genuinely* (not as a technique) accepted her for who she was, all the steam went out of her and she walked away on her own. it's like real tai chi - you're just as soft as can be, if she has nowhere to land her stuff, and it just falls right off you, then she quits. the only reason she adds the negativity to your world is because it bothers you. she can tell. we can all tell, all that stuff, on a deep level. if you can find a way to not argue with how she is, genuinely, not as a practice, but find that spaciousness inside of you..... then she will have nothing to work with. Yup, that's what I be talkin bout. There's no point in sugar coating it, genuine acceptance is a pretty radical thing and isn't going to work as a method to stop idiots from being annoying. Hehe.
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Post by michaelsees on Jan 30, 2011 17:44:51 GMT -5
if you can find a way to not argue with how she is, genuinely, not as a practice, but find that spaciousness inside of you..... then she will have nothing to work with. Yup, that's what I be talkin bout. There's no point in sugar coating it, genuine acceptance is a pretty radical thing and isn't going to work as a method to stop idiots from being annoying. Hehe. Sure it will when you use True Living you bring about exactly what Angela says in the quote above. Like I said try it Michael
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Post by therealfake on Jan 30, 2011 17:50:16 GMT -5
eckhart also told a story about a crazy neighbor he had who used to come by and fill his world with all sorts of negative identified stories about stuff. once he woke up, and *genuinely* (not as a technique) accepted her for who she was, all the steam went out of her and she walked away on her own. it's like real tai chi - you're just as soft as can be, if she has nowhere to land her stuff, and it just falls right off you, then she quits. the only reason she adds the negativity to your world is because it bothers you. she can tell. we can all tell, all that stuff, on a deep level. if you can find a way to not argue with how she is, genuinely, not as a practice, but find that spaciousness inside of you..... then she will have nothing to work with. Yup, that's what I be talkin bout. There's no point in sugar coating it, genuine acceptance is a pretty radical thing and isn't going to work as a method to stop idiots from being annoying. Hehe. Yes, agreed, 'genuine' acceptance, not the kind of one handed forgiveness that has conditional aspects, attached to it. But the kind of real forgiveness, where your willing to forget all about what that person did, even to go so far as, removing it from your memory...
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Post by enigma on Jan 30, 2011 17:58:40 GMT -5
"i know you can tell she bothers me, i wrote it in my posts. i asked for your opinion regarding it, what to do..."
She meant the your co-worker can tell on some level, and that feeds the response.
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Post by michaelsees on Jan 30, 2011 18:01:18 GMT -5
Hello TRF what do you think I was pounding in your head not only yours. But you are funny. As I said don't take my word for it, try it for a week and see.
Michael
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Post by enigma on Jan 30, 2011 18:02:49 GMT -5
Yup, that's what I be talkin bout. There's no point in sugar coating it, genuine acceptance is a pretty radical thing and isn't going to work as a method to stop idiots from being annoying. Hehe. Sure it will when you use True Living you bring about exactly what Angela says in the quote above. Like I said try it Michael It will stop idiots from annoying me? Naw, the perception of annoying idiots will prevent any possibility of acceptance. Though the mind can convince itself of pretty much anything, as we see.
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Post by michaelsees on Jan 30, 2011 18:04:27 GMT -5
This is all about how you are reacting to it. You are the key. When I'm feeling tense I do a spot of Tai Chi. It really is excellent. She wont affect you if you've got a big smile on your face as though you've been smoking something illegal (you may get locked up though). You'll probably become friends because she must be really miserable if she is the way you describe. She'll open up to someone who doesn't get involved in an ego battle. Plugging it again but try 'David Carradine an introduction for beginners to AM & PM Tai Chi' on DVD. Half an hour of Tai chi for the mind a day and it'll all sort itself out! Hi Frank, I agree with you Tai Chi helps a lot. Here's a couple of Chinese songs that were made for Tai Chi The first one is Green Dragon and the second one is Cloud Hands. Enjoy Michael www.4shared.com/audio/lHbpBnQp/Namaste_-_True_Tai_Chi_-_01_-_.htmlwww.4shared.com/audio/fXIZQvtt/Namaste_-_True_Tai_Chi_-_02_-_.html
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Post by michaelsees on Jan 30, 2011 18:09:42 GMT -5
It will stop idiots from annoying me? Naw, the perception of annoying idiots will prevent any possibility of acceptance. Though the mind can convince itself of pretty much anything, as we see. No way it works fine you only looking for excuses not to try it. It's really simple Enigma follow my words. What ever is going to happen next will happen it's beyond our control so the only thing we can do is to accept it. If you try to get involved with something you think then you are investing into some thought and you will fail and not have peace. My way you never go out of peace. Michael
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Post by enigma on Jan 30, 2011 18:14:16 GMT -5
Been living that way for a long time, Michael. Sooner or later you'll find it's not enough for 'you', and Michael will have to stop trying things and go bye-bye.
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Post by sharon on Jan 30, 2011 18:16:35 GMT -5
Will Randolph ever Turn off identifying with his stuck record?
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Post by therealfake on Jan 30, 2011 18:18:48 GMT -5
Hello TRF what do you think I was pounding in your head not only yours. But you are funny. As I said don't take my word for it, try it for a week and see. Michael I'd really like to, but it would just be another relative truth, arising out of that, which already is. You know, just another spiritual experience flowing out of the awareness... I'm trying to forget about all that stuff, that's what keeps things fresh and new. I think I'll just stick with what's real, that which doesn't change... Thanks anyway
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Post by michaelsees on Jan 30, 2011 18:30:35 GMT -5
Been living that way for a long time, Michael. Sooner or later you'll find it's not enough for 'you', and Michael will have to stop trying things and go bye-bye. I very much doubt it. IT's only your ego that tells you your lacking and need more. Okay I will answer TRF and go bye-bye on this thread. You really should try it don't listen to your ego mind telling you it's not enough you really should know better than that anyhow. Peace Michael
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Post by michaelsees on Jan 30, 2011 18:33:46 GMT -5
Hello TRF what do you think I was pounding in your head not only yours. But you are funny. As I said don't take my word for it, try it for a week and see. Michael I'd really like to, but it would just be another relative truth, arising out of that, which already is. You know, just another spiritual experience flowing out of the awareness... I'm trying to forget about all that stuff, that's what keeps things fresh and new. I think I'll just stick with what's real, that which doesn't change... Thanks anyway Man are you 2 really that dense that you can't see it. You are too close to the forest to see the trees! It's clear you have no idea what I am speaking about which has nothing to do with experiencing anything. Ok I will say bye-bye as I am needed elsewhere. Michael
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