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Post by Peter on Jan 29, 2016 22:29:47 GMT -5
Rupert Spira? Passive-agressive from head to toe that no-dude. DISGUSTING! For how many year did that fella sucked up dirt and is doing some "artistical" pottery? Come on! Chris Hebard is utterly bored by listening to him (and hides it well) and Rupert Spira can't hold doing the-tongue-thingy....(knowers know what that means...) Mwha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNEocn67JFkWell I found him quite engaging to listen to. Certainly he was more animated (and sitting higher and more erect than Chris Herbard who's chair looked like it was trying to digest him and he wasn't fighting it) but I would have answered his questions differently. If you remove the seeing of tree what remains? Well, the memory of having seen the tree. Or walk out there, touch the tree. OK remove all the senses? OK so I'm a brain in a jar what is my experience of the tree....eh...yeah, you got me, it's all just consciousness. In a jar. |
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Post by Peter on Jan 29, 2016 20:25:52 GMT -5
I've just deleted a couple of posts in this thread that were reported to contain personally identifying information. P all information is personally identified by someone isn't it? The problem is that the information identified with the person, not the other way round.  |
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Post by Peter on Jan 28, 2016 18:03:15 GMT -5
I've just deleted a couple of posts in this thread that were reported to contain personally identifying information.
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Post by Peter on Jan 25, 2016 21:03:22 GMT -5
I'm aware I'm due you a reply Jay and you made some good points in your PM. I asked Laughter about one in particular. To be honest that wall-o-text you sent my way was quite overwhelming and - you may not know - I do like to address every point that someone makes but in this case it may not be possible.
You've been accused of being "Q" haven't you? You've got a lot in common with him. Same lack of claim to "attainment" and lack of tolerance of those who do.
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Post by Peter on Jan 24, 2016 9:15:12 GMT -5
Struggle isn't good, but indulging any impulse that comes from god knows where isn't good either. Do you deny yourself everything, or deny yourself nothing Gopal? Or if it's somewhere in between, what decides? For me, will power is a finite resource but it is a real thing. The need for willpower presupposes a battle with oneself. Do you see the absurdity of fighting with oneself? It takes a certain amount of game playing for the battle to even start. Yeah, sure, to be a single person with a single set of drives who can actually accomplish something instead of this internal devision of "want this, want that" is the objective here. Do you have any useful advice in this regard, or is the illusion that there's actual anyone trying to accomplish anything and anything to accomplish? |
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Post by Peter on Jan 21, 2016 11:24:07 GMT -5
... so I can say something like that to you and your family members and call it loving and kind. From a place of loving kindness I must say that Silver is a piece of sh!t.  I know you're being funny and I agree with you and lolly if you're saying that totally losing your cool and then claiming it was "done without attachment from a place of Zen loving clarity as instruction to those with less spiritual attainment" is delusional, but now is not a good time to be working out how many lines can be crossed with a cheerful cry of "Just Joking!" I read a lot into the fact that Satch deleted his account. It suggests to me that his evident behaviour was in such contradiction with his self image that he couldn't hold the two things at the same time. One of them had to be made to disappear. Where's that "Psychoanalysis" warning sign when you need it...? |
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Post by Peter on Jan 21, 2016 6:03:19 GMT -5
not being able even to know why or for how long Hmm, I assumed that you, sorry, Sunshine, would read my post where I said I was imposing a two week ban. The forum is publicly accessible without logging in so the details are available, but I guess members are now also suffering from the "can't read it all" effect of the high volume of posts. The trouble with sending a PM is that the person can't read it if they're locked out. Hmm, well I suppose I could send email notifications in future but that does rather expose me to having my email address abused since the recipients are rarely happy to receive the news. Maybe I'll set up a "Why you were banned and for how long" thread in the Intro section. Thanks for the feedback. |
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Post by Peter on Jan 21, 2016 5:38:12 GMT -5
it would be interesting to know the difference between MAXDPROPHET his current signature line, which he carried for at least the last 4 weeks <snip> the difference eludes me--also i do not see any malice in sunshine his intentions toward gopal That's you isn't it Sunshine. Your IP address suggests you're in the same town as him anyway. So if you're not Sunshine then you might like to meet up for a beer or something. If it is you then -1 for playing sock puppet games. You certainly seem to have a very strong opinion for someone with 15 posts under their belt. The difference is in whether the swearing is directed AT someone or just used for general emphasis and expressiveness. I didn't see "malice" as such, I saw swearing being used directed at someone in an attempt to deliberately wind them up. Both things together tipped the scale; obviously we have a lot of instances of one or the other going on far too regularly but I don't feel I can do anything about that without banning 80% of Senior Members. It's a flawed system, subject to my lack of clarity and inability to mind read. I just have to make a judgement call and it's not always going to be right. Fighting me is less likely to result in a ban reversal than attempting to see the situation as if you were a moderator yourself. |
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Post by Peter on Jan 19, 2016 12:40:20 GMT -5
okay, it was abit strong-i see your point--but i never thought i risked a ban for it...- considering the goings on nothing extraordinary , as you seem to admit why two weeks?? i never ever even been reprimanded , ever in 3 plus years (was here under other names) a day would have sent enough message to me--now i feel like the forum has been taken over by some ruthless dictator--reminding me of Laughter as moderator-- -times which were not happy for me, as threads i started were broken in two when someone supposedly attacked me--i can take care of myself-thank you -and which caused me to leave altogether Crikey, how many accounts do you have Sunshine?! There are many people popping their heads over the parapet, yours just popped up highest at a time when I happened to be watching. It's arbitrary I know, that's unfortunate. I'm not surprised to hear you say you "never thought (you) risked a ban" I hope others will consider the risk before posting. Why no warnings? I've done warnings in the past and they just get ignored like so much blah blah (I must have tried...what 30 times?). I've no time for keeping track of some progressively escalating system of warnings and penalties. Tried it before, just got me accused of "dual standards" etc. Why two weeks? Long enough to hurt, not so long that I think you'd leave the forum entirely. On your concerns about other moderating activity: I only move posts when they're advertising or spam and I never delete posts unless there's something like personally identifying info and removal is requested. P |
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Post by Peter on Jan 19, 2016 9:06:05 GMT -5
what should i have used -´´making love?-as if love, or making love is common in a sexual act these days...copulate? tell me please?? ...get a life folks--i do NOT insult, like they do, and I am sincere in my trying to make a point. Saying "making love" would have avoided a ban but really you didn't need to refer to that at all because "Do you tell your girlfriend she doesn't exist?" would have got your point over just as well without dragging the tone down further than it already is. I agree sunshine, there's a lot of sniping and attacking going on here and if I thought I could - by some reasonably maintainable effort of moderating - raise that game to something more productive I would. But I've tried that, didn't work, and so now I just have to fall back to some pretty blunt lines which I can't even be terribly consistent about applying. Enigma seems to know where they are these days. Tzu less so. |
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Post by Peter on Jan 19, 2016 8:06:08 GMT -5
You can't find which one is more desirable? Sure, in any given moment. But the impulse that isn't being 'allowed' doesn't go away. That energy and drive keeps arguing its case. That's the fight. No, everything is being imagined Is this one of those "everything is a movement in mind" things? 'Cos I can run with that most days, but then I'd be as imaginary as anything else. I'm working from the assumption that I'm real and the things that happen are real. If you say the conditions that I find myself in are imaginary then are you saying my entire life is imaginary? I wouldn't find that very useful in the context of this discussion. Okay, So you would like to terminate your drinking,aren't you? But still your desire is to drink, Correct? No, I'd like to stick to my "2 drink" limit on a Friday - Sunday and be alcohol free the rest of the week. Unless there's some social event. But also cake, sex, staying up late, playing computer games. Let's not say drinking is my worst temptation. This is the nature of our consciousness, When we control anger, then next time it would recreate the anger, To recreate the anger, it would create the necessary situation as well. I get that the energy of anger doesn't go away and it will find a way to express itself...yes I'm very familar with that. If I get shouted at I feel like I've absorbed something that stays with me and I often struggle to "let it go". The secret here is, Consciousness doesn't do any counter act to eradicate anything from our experience, it can simply imagine in a different way. For an example, If you know we can't do anything towards this anger, you would allow yourself to whatever happens, sooner, it would replace those people from your life, the people those who are the cause of anger would be moved away and new people would enter and you don't find any problem with them. I'm finding your sentence structure very difficult here Gopal. Are you saying that it is desirable to not get in the way of Anger and allow that energy to remove people from your life? Or are you saying it's desirable to just sit with the Anger and allow LOA to remove them? I thought we'd previously agreed that the energy of the Anger will find a way to express itself in any event? |
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Post by Peter on Jan 19, 2016 7:36:22 GMT -5
So is it that sometimes you resist unhealthy impulses and sometimes you go along with them, or are the unhealthy impulses always rejected? No, it's not rejected, choose the one which is desirable for you. But they're both desirable, in different ways. And it does feel like they're coming from different places with different energies. The "want something unhealthy" desire is without language it's just there. Whereas the "what's best for you" thoughts feel verbal...more like what I identify as 'me'. I get what you say about it all being conscious, but they feel very different to me so I don't have a problem with giving them labels. Mind is not easy, it's very tricky, If you ask me what conditions cause one or other, I would say condition is being imagined Well now. My experience is that if I watch a film, I'm more likely to chose to drink a beer. If my wife goes out of town, I'm more likely to stay up late. If I drink the night before, I'm more like to chose caffeinated coffee over decaff. If I've had sex the night before, I'm more likely to experience and give in to chocolate cravings the following afternoon. I don't think these conditions are being imagined. Once you start to fight with yourself, then necessary condition to fight would be ready for you to face, because it manifests the fight in that way. Sorry I didn't understand what you said there. |
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Post by Peter on Jan 19, 2016 6:56:13 GMT -5
Personally I find the analogy of riding an Elephant to be quite consistent with my experience on my mind and the outcome of "trying" to do anything. So are you saying that's where you're at Gopal, you make choices without struggle? Yeah making choices without struggle, So is it that sometimes you resist unhealthy impulses and sometimes you go along with them, or are the unhealthy impulses always rejected? If it's sometimes one and sometimes another, do you know what conditions cause one or the other to be chosen? |
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Post by Peter on Jan 19, 2016 6:43:13 GMT -5
i feel sorry for him because he is a well meaning guy Yes, I look forward to his return in a fortnight. |
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Post by Peter on Jan 19, 2016 6:38:45 GMT -5
Is that where you're at Gopal? Making choices without a fight? My own experience is that the desires arise in the sub-conscious and arrive fully formed (sometimes even verbally constructed) in the conscious mind, but perhaps you're not making a distinction between the two. This is the foremost problem I perceive with most of the people here, there is no such thing called unconscious or subconscious, this is just a division we are making it for our conceptual understanding, Our desire to eat and our desire to stop eating arises from the same place, nothing goes out of control, everything is in absolute control. But when we see the desire, we are making this as unconscious and the attempt to control we are considering it as if we are doing it, but in truth both are happening from the same place. Personally I find the analogy of riding an Elephant to be quite consistent with my experience on my mind and the outcome of "trying" to do anything. So are you saying that's where you're at Gopal, you make choices without struggle? |
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