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Post by Transcix on May 6, 2014 9:45:37 GMT -5
Oh! This is you sober?? Credit and responsibility are distinct from ownership -- words and ideas aren't static things like shingles on a roof. They bounce from mind to mind in unpredictable and uncontrollable paths. They can no more be retracted than a bell can be unrung. "Precious things?" Uncontrollability requires control, to say it happens 'naturally' isn't really saying much (though there's much value to finding out how it happens rather than standing in awe, almost incredulous, barely able to digest the majesty of the miracle). Words are precisely like shingles on a roof, and at the same time they're not. The beauty of words is that you can't retract them, but you can always add to them to continue the phrase, punctuation allowing. The point is, well in this case it appears to be a tangent... how I do humor myself! (what else is there to do)
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Post by Transcix on May 5, 2014 15:02:20 GMT -5
Stillness is an absence of movement. You are a movement and you can be more still or less still but you never disappear. However seeing aspects of yourself as anything other than empty in terms of your experience of that moment decreases the stillness of your overall movement.
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Post by Transcix on May 5, 2014 14:12:03 GMT -5
The contextual boundary of every conversation is arbitrary. What this means is that the appearance of fragmentation and isolation of dialog is a deceptive chimera. Back through the mists of time, any and every conversation can be traced, and the threads that link the conversants all eventually intersect. To declare ones words to be original in the face of this state of affairs is an amusing farce of arrogance. Intersecting lines meet but once, parallel lines never meet but can be close. There is possibility for new in this universe, everything hasn't been done, you certainly haven't been done before, the farce of arrogance is to mistake the variety of life for a homogeneous blob, it's a rape of that which is most precious, art, beauty and romance. My every word is a strike of the sword, deliberately and meticulously engraved, striking the insanity of the universe, wrenching generation from entropy. To shy away from owning your words is to scurry away from the threats of ego, to worry that you lose yourself in your words. Words, thoughts, these are precious things, they're the building blocks of all existence itself, not silly molecules, atoms or strings. Words do not flow willy nilly, there's no such thing as conversation, there's only argument, only poetry, only the theater of life itself not some darn Shakespearean facsimile. But actually earlier in this thread I was fairly drunk so you'll forgive me if I wasn't perfectly clear.
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Post by Transcix on May 3, 2014 19:09:34 GMT -5
Hmmm, it's true, there are different paths and I can sometimes forget accidentally the more right-handed paths.. it's true..
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Post by Transcix on May 3, 2014 18:50:01 GMT -5
I own my words in the sense that I take responsibility for them. The responsibility thereafter is a matter of another topic, if my words create things then how these things affect me or others in terms of moral imperative or justification.
Do I own my words? Yes, because my words are as much a part of myself as anything else. Do I own myself fundamentally? Obviously that implies an owned and an owner.
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Post by Transcix on May 3, 2014 18:46:30 GMT -5
there's dizziness and disorientation and it takes a minute to get back to full function. It should be immediate, if your arising from your meditative stance was deliberate in the first place.
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Post by Transcix on May 3, 2014 17:47:56 GMT -5
Would those masters want us to quote them?.. If it is an adage then it's an adage.. If in YOUR sentence you're using a quote of a 'MASTER' then it better not be to back up your sentence because your sentence stands strictly on its own no matter who said it.. if you EVER quot something from a master and do so TO ANY EXTENT because it's a master who said it and that will give your own statement credibility, then stop right there.
Are you your OWN master? YES AND NO
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Post by Transcix on May 3, 2014 17:19:28 GMT -5
The pineal gland.. our connection to reality at large.. false, it's the exact opposite to our connection to reality at large, it's our own xing connection to our bodies!.. all this xing hardware in the brain, putting metal computers to shame.. how difficult must it be for consciousness to control a human body, in a way that the human body can begin at a state of infancy and learn and grow?.. don't confuse the painter with the painting.. you're not the painting you're the painter.. you don't possess a soul, you're a soul that possesses your body..
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Post by Transcix on May 3, 2014 16:32:29 GMT -5
As the saying by Ram Dass goes, if you think you're enlightened try living a day with your parents hehe..
..when your parents themselves point this out to you, in ignorance of what it actually means, as has happened to me, the irony makes for a pretty funny fucking moment hahahahahah
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Post by Transcix on May 3, 2014 16:30:11 GMT -5
This is exactly it however I subscribe to none of your terminology haha.. why quote masters?.. and why say that a 'higher' more fundamental state informs a 'lower' more conventional state?.. INFORMS.. the wisdom is not kept secret in the experience, it's not something that can only happen spontaneously you can ponder and contemplate these things with your own intellect, in any 'state'..
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Post by Transcix on May 1, 2014 16:35:30 GMT -5
Japhy, you have had some experiences.. they were intense.. they are learning opportunities.. but why does it matter who this man is or isn't?.. people attempt to discern circumstances and discern their feelings and experiences towards these circumstances and if they interpret their feelings and experiences as positive then they pursue the circumstance for pieces of knowledge.. so you are wondering about this man.. but this is misguided.. what's important is to focus on how your feelings and experiences change as your circumstances change.. what is the causal continuity to it all?.. what powers do others have over yourself, what powers do you have over yourself?.. where did you come from and where are you going?.. being in the Now isn't about arbitrarily carving out distinct circumstances and evaluating them and your experience of them separately each in isolation.. that's the opposite of being in the Now.. for to be in the Now there must be a person who is in it just as there can be no painting without a painter.. what causes you to perceive circumstances and experiences in such a way that you correlate in your mind different experiences and circumstances with different values, beliefs or moral imperatives or your own desires and intentions?.. who are you and who do you want to be?.. if you think it's about this man who you've met consider this, people often talk about spirit guides or other forms of astral communication.. consider if you meet a person on the street and he has a poster or he's promoting something, some point of view, do you believe him?.. the fact that you meet him in the street is of no relevance, it doesn't mean he is or isn't telling the truth, rather you must engage the facts he's presenting you with.. similarly if you have an astral communication or otherwise 'paranormal' or otherworldly experiences, just because you perceive them does not mean they are true or they are not true, rather you must engage the facts of them.. maybe what you experienced was a test.. maybe the universe is playing a trick on you.. maybe obstacles and learning opportunities are the same.. but if you experience a state and cannot fully understand how your being relates to that state in relation to your normal status-quo state, there is NO REASON to assume that new state is in any way superior.. but maybe it will reveal that there is no such thing as the status quo state!..
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Post by Transcix on Apr 12, 2014 17:22:31 GMT -5
One would think that a single brush stroke is limited, but when the "limited" comes together in just the right way to induce a few moments of awe, the face of God is revealed. I truly mean to offense, and with all due respect, I find this vantage point utterly, utterly disgusting. Things don't ever come together 'in just the right way', although it can be perceived as such. It's not heresy to point out the underlying structure and pattern of the movement. There's nothing innocent or pure about being unadulterated by knowledge. Let go of the surprise and spectacle of awe, stop gawking, stop succumbing, rise up and be.
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Post by Transcix on Apr 12, 2014 16:50:35 GMT -5
Hehehe, that's a nice way to put it.
But by your initial posting, are you merely expressing yourself, sharing, that it doesn't matter to you what It's called, or are you implicitly suggesting that it shouldn't matter at all what It's called?
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Post by Transcix on Apr 12, 2014 16:21:32 GMT -5
One moment of cosmic consciousness gives a whole different perspective on the idea of infiniteness. The word that comes to mind during and after a CC experience is "infinite," not "emptiness." The idea of emptiness arises as one tries to communicate the flavor of what one sees when looking at the world in mental silence when the intellect is quiescent. It really doesn't matter to me whether thought calls it infinite or empty. The fact is that thought wasn't there to make the observation in the first place. Thoughts are powerful though.. usually in a negative way.. words are also powerful like this.. and while not necessarily for you, in the wider marketplace of ideas these semantics make a big difference..
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Post by Transcix on Apr 12, 2014 15:52:34 GMT -5
One moment of cosmic consciousness gives a whole different perspective on the idea of infiniteness. The word that comes to mind during and after a CC experience is "infinite," not "emptiness." The idea of emptiness arises as one tries to communicate the flavor of what one sees when looking at the world in mental silence when the intellect is quiescent. Exactly, one moment, realized in contrast to mundane reality, can distort one's perception of Emptiness, make it out to be more extravagant, forgetting that less is more. You can't always live in cosmic consciousness, so to understand it you have to take into consideration that you're only getting a glimpse. To integrate it into yourself requires a little mellowing out, the twilight of the mind, that's what Emptiness is for you, not some giant exploding thing. It seems giant and exploding as your whole reality first explodes, but afterwards once you get the drift then it mellows out.
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