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Post by laughter on Apr 24, 2014 23:14:45 GMT -5
In meditating by watching thoughts the mind goes very very quiet, and as attention is placed on the resulting stillness, attention itself is experienced in greater levels of depth.
During the mental silence, with eyes closed, the other senses heighten and the sense of awareness broadens and there is a subtle feeling of physical dislocation. In standing up when this depth is significant there's dizziness and disorientation and it takes a minute to get back to full function.
A still mind is open, supple and yielding. It is, above all, free of any coercion. There is no forcing a genuinely still mind.
The mind is not an animal that should or can be caged and controlled or made to do tricks for pay. True stillness is only found in the absence of any would-be controller.
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Post by Transcix on May 3, 2014 18:46:30 GMT -5
there's dizziness and disorientation and it takes a minute to get back to full function. It should be immediate, if your arising from your meditative stance was deliberate in the first place. |
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Post by laughter on May 3, 2014 18:56:52 GMT -5
there's dizziness and disorientation and it takes a minute to get back to full function. It should be immediate, if your arising from your meditative stance was deliberate in the first place. If I was serious about it I'd go find a teacher,  but yeah I've read that the alertness is part of standing up ... not my experience! |
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Post by Transcix on May 3, 2014 19:09:34 GMT -5
Hmmm, it's true, there are different paths and I can sometimes forget accidentally the more right-handed paths.. it's true..
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Post by laughter on May 3, 2014 19:21:16 GMT -5
Hmmm, it's true, there are different paths and I can sometimes forget accidentally the more right-handed paths.. it's true.. "right-handed"?? ..  .. I'm curious, please do expound if you so have the inclination. |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on May 3, 2014 21:28:58 GMT -5
Hmmm, it's true, there are different paths and I can sometimes forget accidentally the more right-handed paths.. it's true.. "right-handed"?? .. .. I'm curious, please do expound if you so have the inclination. The right-hand path is the path of the good guys. The left-hand path is the dark side........ sdp |
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Post by topology on May 3, 2014 21:40:36 GMT -5
"right-handed"?? .. .. I'm curious, please do expound if you so have the inclination. The right-hand path is the path of the good guys. The left-hand path is the dark side........ sdp  No wonder my preacher told me to use my right to masturbate! Now I know I'm really going to hell! |
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Post by laughter on May 3, 2014 22:34:37 GMT -5
"right-handed"?? .. .. I'm curious, please do expound if you so have the inclination. The right-hand path is the path of the good guys. The left-hand path is the dark side........ sdp "Denmark" is only a figment of Hamlet's imagination ... some arbitrary ginned-up squiggles on a map. Just an excuse to collect taxes really. There is no prison. |
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Post by tzujanli on May 4, 2014 8:37:51 GMT -5
The still mind doesn't see 'thoughts', there is 'happening', and the still mind's participation without the distinction.. if a 'thought' is consistent with the happening there is integration, if not there is dissipation, and no further concern or attachment.. the still mind is integrating with the happening..
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Post by laughter on May 4, 2014 9:11:01 GMT -5
Stillness is an absence of movement.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2014 13:49:04 GMT -5
Stillness is an absence of movement. Stillness is also the inherent absence of the resistance 'to' movement. In other words the stillness within movement. |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2014 13:51:19 GMT -5
Stillness is an absence of movement. Conversely, Stillness is the inherent absence of the resistance to movement. Stillness relinquished his name. |
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Post by Transcix on May 5, 2014 15:02:20 GMT -5
Stillness is an absence of movement. You are a movement and you can be more still or less still but you never disappear. However seeing aspects of yourself as anything other than empty in terms of your experience of that moment decreases the stillness of your overall movement. |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2014 15:08:48 GMT -5
Stillness is an absence of movement. You are a movement and you can be more still or less still but you never disappear. I like the 'mind is movement' idea. Mind is movement...mind can be more still or less still. You appear with mind, therefore you disappear when there is no movement. Death, for example, is the absence of movement, and the absence of you. Now some claim that there is another You that is on which you and mind come and go. That's something else. I'm beginning to think that 'deep sleep' is not a case where there is the absence of movement, but there is a whole lot of stillness. |
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Post by quinn on May 5, 2014 19:28:53 GMT -5
Conversely, Stillness is the inherent absence of the resistance to movement. Stillness relinquished his name. And Silence is rarely here.  |
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but yeah I've read that the alertness is part of standing up ... not my experience!
No wonder my preacher told me to use my right to masturbate! Now I know I'm really going to hell!
