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Post by enigma on Sept 7, 2010 20:37:40 GMT -5
Ken: "Klaus: I'd love to give this job to someone else, but where else could I earn this much money? Please don't tell E. how much Shawn is paying me or he'll get jealous and want part of the action." Wait...what?.....What kind of money?.....Okay, so you have me slaving and bullying and dominating and stuff for pointless karma points while you secretly take money under the table??.....Huh?....Pffft!  |
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Post by zendancer on Sept 7, 2010 20:55:13 GMT -5
E: I told you I didn't care about the karma points! Now you understand why. How else could I have paid to take a vacation in the middle of a forest fire?
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Post by klaus on Sept 7, 2010 21:16:58 GMT -5
Hehehe, nondual upheaval. There's literally too few of us to actually have a fight. Porto: Now that's funny. I guess we'll have to be content with only the appearance of a fight. LOL Klaus: I'd love to give this job to someone else, but where else could I earn this much money? Please don't tell E. how much Shawn is paying me or he'll get jealous and want part of the action. Hey, life is wild. Yesterday Carol and I hiked up Mt. Sanitas, the small mountain that overlooks Boulder, CO. We came back down to our car at 10:25, and as we were driving away, I looked in the rearview mirror and saw an enormous plume of smoke billow up from Sunshine Canyon located directly behind Mt. Sanitas. By the time we got to a restaurant for lunch the smoke had covered the city. Turns out a big forest fire broke out just as we were leaving. Thirty minutes after we left the summit of Sanitas it was totally engulfed in smoke. I don't know how the rest of the hikers were able to find their way down. Last night we were driving back to Boulder from a location east of town and the tops of the mountains behind Sanitas were ablaze--bright orange flames penetrating the smoky sky. We woke up this morning with smoke in our room and smoke all over town, so we left and went to hike in the Indian Peaks Wilderness Area adjacent to the Rocky Mountain National Park. We finally got out of the smoke at 9500 feet and it was blue sky all the way to Blue Lake at 12,000 feet. We came back to town this afternoon and discovered that the fire is still raging out of control. 65 homes have burned so far and the sky is full of airtankers dropping retardant just beyond the crest of Sanitas. Totally surreal. 3000 people have so far been evacuated from the hills west of Boulder. As for the website, I have received three requests from members to delete particular posts, but so far, not a single post has been deleted. Everyone is welcome to say whatever they want as long as they keep it civil. Cheers. zendancer fiddles while the forest is burning. zendancer fair enough. |
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Post by michaelsees on Sept 7, 2010 21:25:56 GMT -5
Loverforall:
I am back for the moment. It's difficult to give you any main points on what I believe. I can see from this board that no matter what subject is on not only non duality these 2 will have issues with it.
Now I don't care if a person has issues with anything but both these guys enigma and ZD do something that I very dislike. They start projecting themselves on peoples stories. In other words they do not know how to have a intelligence conversation without getting a few good shots in making personal. This is so juvenile but this is what I see.
Now it is true I speak about non duality because my experience is in non duality , my awakening is in non duality, Enigma says I caused others meaning him and ZD to talk about non duality I don't thing so it's a free world. You can talk about anything. The other point for Enigma that I have previously mentioned it matters not the subject matter these 2 are what you call a protagonist in a movie. You have to have one or things get to dull. However there is a big difference between a protagonist and getting personal.
I have no feelings one way or another but I do not stick around something that only produces strong egos.
ZD- Thanks for honoring my request by not feeling you had to respond you get a point for that.
Now back to something that makes much more sense Are you on a vacation in Boulder or do you live there?
Enigma- all I can say is you are a Enigma with a healthy ego.
Ok peace to all and Proto is right not only that non duality fights get pretty boring now if we have Kindalini rising fights those would colorful for sure.
So ZD what is it vacation or you live there?
Michael
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Post by klaus on Sept 7, 2010 21:34:46 GMT -5
The duel of the nondualists! A battle to the death for the right to be agreed with for some reason. Hehe. I would play along but I really don't know what the rules of this game are. So Michael talks about nonduality, which causes others to talk back about nonduality, and that's bullying, and really we should be talking back about something else.....and answering fewer of the posts....or giving others the microphone....or what? enigma, Michael asked you about the Fibonacci numbers, if you don't have an answer say so, but don't ignore the question. |
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Post by zendancer on Sept 7, 2010 22:20:16 GMT -5
Michael: No, I don't live in Boulder. I'm on vacation here. I live in Tennessee. This body likes to climb mountains and this body's wife likes to dance. This is one of the only places these bodies can go where we can do both things every day. Last night Argentine Tango (this is where the screen name Zendancer comes from); today, a five mile hike in the valley below Mt. Audubon. Tomorrow, Estes Park, and tomorrow night Waltz and Foxtrot. This could be Nirvana except that the mountains are still on fire.
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Post by enigma on Sept 7, 2010 22:38:12 GMT -5
E: I told you I didn't care about the karma points! Now you understand why. How else could I have paid to take a vacation in the middle of a forest fire? Hmmmm, now it all makes sense. well, for your sake i hope the authorities never find out about that campfire you had in sunshine Canyon. Hehe. (Sour grapes)  |
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Post by Peter on Sept 7, 2010 23:14:29 GMT -5
Crikey, I take a few days off to move house and does it kick off or what? enigma, Michael asked you about the Fibonacci numbers, if you don't have an answer say so, but don't ignore the question. Klaus, you sound like you're giving Enigma a telling off here, but isn't it the general dominance of Advaita that's bothering you rather than some particular point - which the author appears to have abandoned anyway? You see that a lot in relationships, that resentment builds up and starts to seep out over any irritation you can get your hands on. Before you know it you're having a screaming argument about the ketchup - to pick a memorable example. Besides, I took M's Fibonacci question to be rhetorical. I do agree with you that Advaita has been the only horse in town for the last year or so. Perhaps the more prolific posters could consider easing back a little and allowing new comers to hold on to their sacred cows for a short while at least? On the other hand, Michaelsees came here with - as I see it - more of a desire to teach than a desire to learn. When he didn't get the positive feedback he was expecting, he started reacting and stopped listening. And then the air turned blue. And bold. Just my take on it. Cheers, Peter |
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Post by enigma on Sept 7, 2010 23:20:31 GMT -5
The duel of the nondualists! A battle to the death for the right to be agreed with for some reason. Hehe. I would play along but I really don't know what the rules of this game are. So Michael talks about nonduality, which causes others to talk back about nonduality, and that's bullying, and really we should be talking back about something else.....and answering fewer of the posts....or giving others the microphone....or what? enigma, Michael asked you about the Fibonacci numbers, if you don't have an answer say so, but don't ignore the question. You don't understand the point i was trying to make. Nothing in the dream says anything about anything but the dream. We're making it all up. There's nothing wrong with that but when you point to something made up and declare it some law or universal truth by which creation must somehow abide, my issues are going to get all egoic and bullyish and dominating and evasive and juvenile and projecting and personal attackish and such. Nothing is separate from anything and so your life moves as the stars move. As you tremble, so does the Earth. As science reveals, so are you revealed, and Fibonacci numbers are seen in the mirror of your own creations as the Mandelbrot set reflects the reflections of reflection in endless expressions of complex simplicity. Your wonder is there in a starry night and your power in a ruthless tornado and your helplessness in the final curling of a tsunami wave. When you look in the mirror who do you expect to find there? What else do you think you can find? |
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Post by michaelsees on Sept 7, 2010 23:45:24 GMT -5
Okay something you might want to check out. I think it's west of Boulder netherland or something that is where in famous Antelope ranch is. If you make a right there you should be on a nice paved road that goes into Brainards state park. It's been lie 20 years but I think it's about 10 miles. The park is great cuz you can get to the Continental divide in a hour or so pretty cool. Now this park is at 10,000 ft. You drop a little bit and on your right you will see one of the first hippie towns in the US called Ward. Very cool place where they barter for stuff, teach yoga in the church nice flash of the past. Also in that area is Kytro the new age group ranch. Just out side of Ward there use to be a beautiful ashram called Sacred mountain ashram. It's worth a visit if it's still open. The guru that founded the place believed in his followers to be celibate but he got caught with his hand in the cookie jar and not too long after that he died. Enjoy it's a fun area. peace michaael Michael: No, I don't live in Boulder. I'm on vacation here. I live in Tennessee. This body likes to climb mountains and this body's wife likes to dance. This is one of the only places these bodies can go where we can do both things every day. Last night Argentine Tango (this is where the screen name Zendancer comes from); today, a five mile hike in the valley below Mt. Audubon. Tomorrow, Estes Park, and tomorrow night Waltz and Foxtrot. This could be Nirvana except that the mountains are still on fire. |
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Post by michaelsees on Sept 7, 2010 23:58:27 GMT -5
Actually it was a straight question the the Fibs numbers. I can respect any one's view which was not a problem what was a problem for me are projections and personal attacks. Now for sure it was not because no one listen to me. I do not care never did. People come to forums for a host of reasons some to learn, some to teach, some just to enjoy etc. I do it just to enjoy and that is why I dislike some nut projecting their crap on me. It's just rude. You see what I just said some nut. The moment you see something like that the energy shifts to not a good place. Not where I care to be.. peace michael Crikey, I take a few days off to move house and does it kick off or what? Klaus, you sound like you're giving Enigma a telling off here, but isn't it the general dominance of Advaita that's bothering you rather than some particular point - which the author appears to have abandoned anyway? You see that a lot in relationships, that resentment builds up and starts to seep out over any irritation you can get your hands on. Before you know it you're having a screaming argument about the ketchup - to pick a memorable example. Besides, I took M's Fibonacci question to be rhetorical. I do agree with you that Advaita has been the only horse in town for the last year or so. Perhaps the more prolific posters could consider easing back a little and allowing new comers to hold on to their sacred cows for a short while at least? On the other hand, Michaelsees came here with - as I see it - more of a desire to teach than a desire to learn. When he didn't get the positive feedback he was expecting, he started reacting and stopped listening. And then the air turned blue. And bold. Just my take on it. Cheers, Peter |
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Post by michaelsees on Sept 8, 2010 0:08:12 GMT -5
Enigma wrote " We're making it all up" now enigma you will never win with that statement. think about it for a moment. who makes creation we do we make up everything so what is your point?
It does follow rules and laws why because we made it that way. Everything with the exception of source and consciousness is made up and this includes creation. Creation abides by the laws that we set in place it's as simple as that.
Ok bedtime
peace
michael
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Post by enigma on Sept 8, 2010 0:10:38 GMT -5
I'm genuinely confused, michael. Did I 'project crap' or make any personal attack? I thought we were just discussing stuff. Are you talking about Zen? That doesn't make sense to me either. He's way too busy starting forest fires and dancing in the flames and such. Actually it was a straight question the the Fibs numbers. I can respect any one's view which was not a problem what was a problem for me are projections and personal attacks. Now for sure it was not because no one listen to me. I do not care never did. People come to forums for a host of reasons some to learn, some to teach, some just to enjoy etc. I do it just to enjoy and that is why I dislike some nut projecting their crap on me. It's just rude. You see what I just said some nut. The moment you see something like that the energy shifts to not a good place. Not where I care to be.. peace michael Crikey, I take a few days off to move house and does it kick off or what? Klaus, you sound like you're giving Enigma a telling off here, but isn't it the general dominance of Advaita that's bothering you rather than some particular point - which the author appears to have abandoned anyway? You see that a lot in relationships, that resentment builds up and starts to seep out over any irritation you can get your hands on. Before you know it you're having a screaming argument about the ketchup - to pick a memorable example. Besides, I took M's Fibonacci question to be rhetorical. I do agree with you that Advaita has been the only horse in town for the last year or so. Perhaps the more prolific posters could consider easing back a little and allowing new comers to hold on to their sacred cows for a short while at least? On the other hand, Michaelsees came here with - as I see it - more of a desire to teach than a desire to learn. When he didn't get the positive feedback he was expecting, he started reacting and stopped listening. And then the air turned blue. And bold. Just my take on it. Cheers, Peter |
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Post by enigma on Sept 8, 2010 0:12:12 GMT -5
Enigma wrote " We're making it all up" now enigma you will never win with that statement. think about it for a moment. who makes creation we do we make up everything so what is your point? It does follow rules and laws why because we made it that way. Everything with the exception of source and consciousness is made up and this includes creation. Creation abides by the laws that we set in place it's as simple as that. Ok bedtime peace michael I'm glad we finally agree.  |
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Post by michaelsees on Sept 8, 2010 8:23:41 GMT -5
HmmI always said this Enimga for the record. But remember creation will abide by the laws of natural or whatever cuz we make up all those laws.
peace
michael
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