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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jul 11, 2024 21:30:53 GMT -5
The problem is, we live in the world as it is. Some of the earliest writings, the I Ching. Leibniz knew of and recognized the I Ching as a binary language. It's all a series of broken lines ___ ___ yin and unbroken lines ______ yang. Originally, yin meant the shady side of a tree, yang meant the side of the tree in the Sun. The originators of the I Ching recognized the patterns on a tortoise shell, and connected them with events-in-life. So they collected these tortoise shells, they were kind of books. Chuang Tzu makes reference to them in the story about fishing on the River Pu. Fu Xi was the first guy who first saw the patterns. Eventually they decided they didn't have to kill tortoises, and they designed the binary patterns of the 64 hexagrams of the I Ching, and described the meaning of each hexagram. So all of life is the movement of yang rising and falling, and eventually turning into yin, and likewise rising and falling. We see polarity everywhere, in electricity, in atoms, in work and relaxation, night and day, summer and winter, fall and spring, the inbreath, the outbreath.
So we here on Earth have to deal with duality, the dual world. Yes, there is one united whole, but there are these two flows within the whole. Without the two flows, the manifest world would not exist. And it all begins with an outward flow, involution. And then there is a backwards flow back-to-the-One, evolution. All the events of life occur because of a mixture of these two flows. Protons, electrons and neutrons, are not imaginary. Polarity exists. The nastiness of life arises out of the flow away from Source, terrorism, murder, rape, the "seven deadly sins". All truth, goodness and beauty arises from the flow back to Oneness.
THE TURTLE
Chuang Tzu with his bamboo pole
Was fishing in Pu river.
The Prince of Chu
Sent two vice-chancellors
With a fonnal document:
"We hereby appoint you
Prime Minister."
Chuang Tzu held his bamboo pole.
Still watching Pu river,
He said:
"I am told there is a sacred tortoise,
Offered and canonized
Three thousand years ago,
Venerated by the prince,
Wrapped in silk,
In a precious shrine
On an altar
In the Temple.
"What do you think:
Is it better to give up one's life
And leave a sacred shell
As an object of cult
In a cloud of incense
Three thousand years,
Or better to live
As a plain turtle
Dragging its tail in the mud?"
"For the turtle," said the Vice-Chancellor,
"Better to live
And drag its tail in the mud!"
"Go home!" said Chuang Tzu.
"Leave me here
To drag my tail in the mud!"
[xvii. II.]
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Post by laughter on Jul 12, 2024 3:53:14 GMT -5
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jul 12, 2024 8:25:12 GMT -5
That's a great story. In what way is your post connected to the thread? |
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Post by laughter on Jul 12, 2024 9:51:06 GMT -5
That's a great story. In what way is your post connected to the thread? "Duality"? |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jul 12, 2024 12:34:56 GMT -5
That's a great story. In what way is your post connected to the thread? "Duality"? That doesn't help (me). |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jul 12, 2024 12:44:19 GMT -5
Look at the yin/yang Supreme Ultimate symbol. It is one-whole, but divided into white and black, white dot in the black, black dot in the white. But the I Ching tells us it is a symbol-in-motion. The white dot enlarges until it is almost all white-half. Simultaneously the black dot enlarges until that half is almost entirely black. But a white dot remains, and it begins expanding. Tai Chi Chuan is the same, weight shifts, there are expansive moves, then contracting moves. This is just how the manifest world works, via duality.
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Post by laughter on Jul 12, 2024 12:54:29 GMT -5
Nothing that we write to one another isn't "duality". Nothing that appears to you, in any way, shape, or form, cannot be mistaken for "duality". So, a thread about "duality", can be a thread about .. anything.  In contrast, we use words to point to non-duality. While any thing implicates "duality", non-duality isn't about any"thing". |
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Post by andrew on Jul 13, 2024 9:38:04 GMT -5
The problem is, we live in the world as it is. Some of the earliest writings, the I Ching. Leibniz knew of and recognized the I Ching as a binary language. It's all a series of broken lines ___ ___ yin and unbroken lines ______ yang. Originally, yin meant the shady side of a tree, yang meant the side of the tree in the Sun. The originators of the I Ching recognized the patterns on a tortoise shell, and connected them with events-in-life. So they collected these tortoise shells, they were kind of books. Chuang Tzu makes reference to them in the story about fishing on the River Pu. Fu Xi was the first guy who first saw the patterns. Eventually they decided they didn't have to kill tortoises, and they designed the binary patterns of the 64 hexagrams of the I Ching, and described the meaning of each hexagram. So all of life is the movement of yang rising and falling, and eventually turning into yin, and likewise rising and falling. We see polarity everywhere, in electricity, in atoms, in work and relaxation, night and day, summer and winter, fall and spring, the inbreath, the outbreath. So we here on Earth have to deal with duality, the dual world. Yes, there is one united whole, but there are these two flows within the whole. Without the two flows, the manifest world would not exist. And it all begins with an outward flow, involution. And then there is a backwards flow back-to-the-One, evolution. All the events of life occur because of a mixture of these two flows. Protons, electrons and neutrons, are not imaginary. Polarity exists. The nastiness of life arises out of the flow away from Source, terrorism, murder, rape, the "seven deadly sins". All truth, goodness and beauty arises from the flow back to Oneness. THE TURTLE Chuang Tzu with his bamboo pole Was fishing in Pu river. The Prince of Chu Sent two vice-chancellors With a fonnal document: "We hereby appoint you Prime Minister." Chuang Tzu held his bamboo pole. Still watching Pu river, He said: "I am told there is a sacred tortoise, Offered and canonized Three thousand years ago, Venerated by the prince, Wrapped in silk, In a precious shrine On an altar In the Temple. "What do you think: Is it better to give up one's life And leave a sacred shell As an object of cult In a cloud of incense Three thousand years, Or better to live As a plain turtle Dragging its tail in the mud?" "For the turtle," said the Vice-Chancellor, "Better to live And drag its tail in the mud!" "Go home!" said Chuang Tzu. "Leave me here To drag my tail in the mud!" [xvii. II.] In spiritual conversations, there seems to have been....at least in my time....not much consensus on what the concept of 'duality' refers to. The way I generally use the word in a spiritual context is to talk about 'presence/absence'...so all experience has a 'dualistic' aspect, in that what is experienced is defined in relation to what is not experienced i.e presence/absence. So I experience a 'car' and that experience also contains the entirely of all that is NOT 'car', both in terms of what we know and all that is not known. To express that another way, every experience is both full and empty. Then there's the concept of 'polarity', which I see as a bit different from 'duality'. I see polarities as opposite measurements, like 'left/right', 'up/down'. I don't see feeling/emotion as a polarity (because I believe there is a bassline of wellbeing), though feeling/emotion can certainly be experienced as a polarity, and when working with feeling/emotion, it can even be useful to consider it as a polarity. Similarly, I don't see ego as the polar opposite of Being. |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jul 13, 2024 10:23:59 GMT -5
The problem is, we live in the world as it is. Some of the earliest writings, the I Ching. Leibniz knew of and recognized the I Ching as a binary language. It's all a series of broken lines ___ ___ yin and unbroken lines ______ yang. Originally, yin meant the shady side of a tree, yang meant the side of the tree in the Sun. The originators of the I Ching recognized the patterns on a tortoise shell, and connected them with events-in-life. So they collected these tortoise shells, they were kind of books. Chuang Tzu makes reference to them in the story about fishing on the River Pu. Fu Xi was the first guy who first saw the patterns. Eventually they decided they didn't have to kill tortoises, and they designed the binary patterns of the 64 hexagrams of the I Ching, and described the meaning of each hexagram. So all of life is the movement of yang rising and falling, and eventually turning into yin, and likewise rising and falling. We see polarity everywhere, in electricity, in atoms, in work and relaxation, night and day, summer and winter, fall and spring, the inbreath, the outbreath. So we here on Earth have to deal with duality, the dual world. Yes, there is one united whole, but there are these two flows within the whole. Without the two flows, the manifest world would not exist. And it all begins with an outward flow, involution. And then there is a backwards flow back-to-the-One, evolution. All the events of life occur because of a mixture of these two flows. Protons, electrons and neutrons, are not imaginary. Polarity exists. The nastiness of life arises out of the flow away from Source, terrorism, murder, rape, the "seven deadly sins". All truth, goodness and beauty arises from the flow back to Oneness. THE TURTLE Chuang Tzu with his bamboo pole Was fishing in Pu river. The Prince of Chu Sent two vice-chancellors With a fonnal document: "We hereby appoint you Prime Minister." Chuang Tzu held his bamboo pole. Still watching Pu river, He said: "I am told there is a sacred tortoise, Offered and canonized Three thousand years ago, Venerated by the prince, Wrapped in silk, In a precious shrine On an altar In the Temple. "What do you think: Is it better to give up one's life And leave a sacred shell As an object of cult In a cloud of incense Three thousand years, Or better to live As a plain turtle Dragging its tail in the mud?" "For the turtle," said the Vice-Chancellor, "Better to live And drag its tail in the mud!" "Go home!" said Chuang Tzu. "Leave me here To drag my tail in the mud!" [xvii. II.] In spiritual conversations, there seems to have been....at least in my time....not much consensus on what the concept of 'duality' refers to. The way I generally use the word in a spiritual context is to talk about 'presence/absence'...so all experience has a 'dualistic' aspect, in that what is experienced is defined in relation to what is not experienced i.e presence/absence. So I experience a 'car' and that experience also contains the entirely of all that is NOT 'car', both in terms of what we know and all that is not known. To express that another way, every experience is both full and empty. Then there's the concept of 'polarity', which I see as a bit different from 'duality'. I see polarities as opposite measurements, like 'left/right', 'up/down'. I don't see feeling/emotion as a polarity (because I believe there is a bassline of wellbeing), though feeling/emotion can certainly be experienced as a polarity, and when working with feeling/emotion, it can even be useful to consider it as a polarity. Similarly, I don't see ego as the polar opposite of Being. OK, I changed the thread title, it's more-about polarity than necessarily duality. I was going to give electricity as an example. Ground, in terms of electricity, means the ground, the earth. Electricity must have 'two poles' to flow, the circuit must be completed. Take an outlet, a receptical for instance. Just eliminate the 3rd opening, it's the ground, only for safety. The two slots side by side, are the current carrying positive side, the smaller slot, and the wider slot, that's the return-path, the neutral. (When the poles were named, it was almost arbitrary, as they (Ben Franklin and others) didn't know the rules of how electricity flowed, the direction of flow, and the naming of the poles). So, there, at your outlet, no electricity is flowing. When you plug in, say a lamp, that completes the circuit, positive and negative are connected, electricity flows, your light bulb comes on, your electrical meter goes faster showing you are using electricity. Or when you flip on a light switch, this connects two wires and completes the circuit. All of the manifest universe works on the principle of polarity. I'd say this is what A-H calls contrast, contrast arises-from polarity. Now, almost an odd thing, there is no power/electricity on a neutral, but a neutral is needed for electricity to flow. Electricity wants to flow to-the-earth, as the earth is negative, in polarity. Look at your electrical service, where the meter is. There is a ground rod. This is tied to the neutral of your electrical system*. This is the safety-factor, this is tied to the ground on your outlets. (*And in your main panel, the grounds and neutrals are tied together). But, IOW, electricity will not flow without completing the circuit between positive and negative. The manifest universe 'will not work' without the unmanifest, and manifest, completing the circuit. And, all energy operates on the principle of polarity. No polarity, no manifest universe. The writer of the Bhagavad Gita knew this, this is the principle of the 3 gunas. The whole principle of entropy, developed over decades, arises from the knowledge that heat always flows from hotter to cooler, never vice versa, unless work enters. In and of itself, nothing ever gets hotter. In no natural process would an 'iron' shift from a cold iron to an iron hot enough to brand with. A steam engine, if left alone, would never make-a-train-go. Polarity rules in the manifest world. |
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Post by zendancer on Jul 13, 2024 10:34:44 GMT -5
The problem is, we live in the world as it is. Some of the earliest writings, the I Ching. Leibniz knew of and recognized the I Ching as a binary language. It's all a series of broken lines ___ ___ yin and unbroken lines ______ yang. Originally, yin meant the shady side of a tree, yang meant the side of the tree in the Sun. The originators of the I Ching recognized the patterns on a tortoise shell, and connected them with events-in-life. So they collected these tortoise shells, they were kind of books. Chuang Tzu makes reference to them in the story about fishing on the River Pu. Fu Xi was the first guy who first saw the patterns. Eventually they decided they didn't have to kill tortoises, and they designed the binary patterns of the 64 hexagrams of the I Ching, and described the meaning of each hexagram. So all of life is the movement of yang rising and falling, and eventually turning into yin, and likewise rising and falling. We see polarity everywhere, in electricity, in atoms, in work and relaxation, night and day, summer and winter, fall and spring, the inbreath, the outbreath. So we here on Earth have to deal with duality, the dual world. Yes, there is one united whole, but there are these two flows within the whole. Without the two flows, the manifest world would not exist. And it all begins with an outward flow, involution. And then there is a backwards flow back-to-the-One, evolution. All the events of life occur because of a mixture of these two flows. Protons, electrons and neutrons, are not imaginary. Polarity exists. The nastiness of life arises out of the flow away from Source, terrorism, murder, rape, the "seven deadly sins". All truth, goodness and beauty arises from the flow back to Oneness. THE TURTLE Chuang Tzu with his bamboo pole Was fishing in Pu river. The Prince of Chu Sent two vice-chancellors With a fonnal document: "We hereby appoint you Prime Minister." Chuang Tzu held his bamboo pole. Still watching Pu river, He said: "I am told there is a sacred tortoise, Offered and canonized Three thousand years ago, Venerated by the prince, Wrapped in silk, In a precious shrine On an altar In the Temple. "What do you think: Is it better to give up one's life And leave a sacred shell As an object of cult In a cloud of incense Three thousand years, Or better to live As a plain turtle Dragging its tail in the mud?" "For the turtle," said the Vice-Chancellor, "Better to live And drag its tail in the mud!" "Go home!" said Chuang Tzu. "Leave me here To drag my tail in the mud!" [xvii. II.] Not really. Duality is a mind-made creation just as non-duality is a mind-made creation. We do not live in duality; we imagine duality. Imagining duality is okay as long as one doesn't forget that the idea is imaginary, or, as Rumi might put it, "is like a flower in the air." If one is driving to the store to buy groceries and the mind is totally silent, where is anything dual? THIS is aware. THIS sees and responds to "what is" without needing to imagine anything. In this state of oneness where can two be found? |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jul 13, 2024 10:37:51 GMT -5
The problem is, we live in the world as it is. Some of the earliest writings, the I Ching. Leibniz knew of and recognized the I Ching as a binary language. It's all a series of broken lines ___ ___ yin and unbroken lines ______ yang. Originally, yin meant the shady side of a tree, yang meant the side of the tree in the Sun. The originators of the I Ching recognized the patterns on a tortoise shell, and connected them with events-in-life. So they collected these tortoise shells, they were kind of books. Chuang Tzu makes reference to them in the story about fishing on the River Pu. Fu Xi was the first guy who first saw the patterns. Eventually they decided they didn't have to kill tortoises, and they designed the binary patterns of the 64 hexagrams of the I Ching, and described the meaning of each hexagram. So all of life is the movement of yang rising and falling, and eventually turning into yin, and likewise rising and falling. We see polarity everywhere, in electricity, in atoms, in work and relaxation, night and day, summer and winter, fall and spring, the inbreath, the outbreath. So we here on Earth have to deal with duality, the dual world. Yes, there is one united whole, but there are these two flows within the whole. Without the two flows, the manifest world would not exist. And it all begins with an outward flow, involution. And then there is a backwards flow back-to-the-One, evolution. All the events of life occur because of a mixture of these two flows. Protons, electrons and neutrons, are not imaginary. Polarity exists. The nastiness of life arises out of the flow away from Source, terrorism, murder, rape, the "seven deadly sins". All truth, goodness and beauty arises from the flow back to Oneness. THE TURTLE Chuang Tzu with his bamboo pole Was fishing in Pu river. The Prince of Chu Sent two vice-chancellors With a fonnal document: "We hereby appoint you Prime Minister." Chuang Tzu held his bamboo pole. Still watching Pu river, He said: "I am told there is a sacred tortoise, Offered and canonized Three thousand years ago, Venerated by the prince, Wrapped in silk, In a precious shrine On an altar In the Temple. "What do you think: Is it better to give up one's life And leave a sacred shell As an object of cult In a cloud of incense Three thousand years, Or better to live As a plain turtle Dragging its tail in the mud?" "For the turtle," said the Vice-Chancellor, "Better to live And drag its tail in the mud!" "Go home!" said Chuang Tzu. "Leave me here To drag my tail in the mud!" [xvii. II.] Not really. Duality is a mind-made creation just as non-duality is a mind-made creation. We do not live in duality; we imagine duality. Imagining duality is okay as long as one doesn't forget that the idea is imaginary, or, as Rumi might put it, "is like a flower in the air." If one is driving to the store to buy groceries and the mind is totally silent, where is anything dual? THIS is aware. THIS sees and responds to "what is" without needing to imagine anything. In this state of oneness where can two be found? I just responded to andrew and changed the thread title. |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jul 13, 2024 11:03:42 GMT -5
The problem is, we live in the world as it is. Some of the earliest writings, the I Ching. Leibniz knew of and recognized the I Ching as a binary language. It's all a series of broken lines ___ ___ yin and unbroken lines ______ yang. Originally, yin meant the shady side of a tree, yang meant the side of the tree in the Sun. The originators of the I Ching recognized the patterns on a tortoise shell, and connected them with events-in-life. So they collected these tortoise shells, they were kind of books. Chuang Tzu makes reference to them in the story about fishing on the River Pu. Fu Xi was the first guy who first saw the patterns. Eventually they decided they didn't have to kill tortoises, and they designed the binary patterns of the 64 hexagrams of the I Ching, and described the meaning of each hexagram. So all of life is the movement of yang rising and falling, and eventually turning into yin, and likewise rising and falling. We see polarity everywhere, in electricity, in atoms, in work and relaxation, night and day, summer and winter, fall and spring, the inbreath, the outbreath. So we here on Earth have to deal with duality, the dual world. Yes, there is one united whole, but there are these two flows within the whole. Without the two flows, the manifest world would not exist. And it all begins with an outward flow, involution. And then there is a backwards flow back-to-the-One, evolution. All the events of life occur because of a mixture of these two flows. Protons, electrons and neutrons, are not imaginary. Polarity exists. The nastiness of life arises out of the flow away from Source, terrorism, murder, rape, the "seven deadly sins". All truth, goodness and beauty arises from the flow back to Oneness. THE TURTLE Chuang Tzu with his bamboo pole Was fishing in Pu river. The Prince of Chu Sent two vice-chancellors With a fonnal document: "We hereby appoint you Prime Minister." Chuang Tzu held his bamboo pole. Still watching Pu river, He said: "I am told there is a sacred tortoise, Offered and canonized Three thousand years ago, Venerated by the prince, Wrapped in silk, In a precious shrine On an altar In the Temple. "What do you think: Is it better to give up one's life And leave a sacred shell As an object of cult In a cloud of incense Three thousand years, Or better to live As a plain turtle Dragging its tail in the mud?" "For the turtle," said the Vice-Chancellor, "Better to live And drag its tail in the mud!" "Go home!" said Chuang Tzu. "Leave me here To drag my tail in the mud!" [xvii. II.] In spiritual conversations, there seems to have been....at least in my time....not much consensus on what the concept of 'duality' refers to. The way I generally use the word in a spiritual context is to talk about 'presence/absence'...so all experience has a 'dualistic' aspect, in that what is experienced is defined in relation to what is not experienced i.e presence/absence. So I experience a 'car' and that experience also contains the entirely of all that is NOT 'car', both in terms of what we know and all that is not known. To express that another way, every experience is both full and empty. Then there's the concept of 'polarity', which I see as a bit different from 'duality'. I see polarities as opposite measurements, like 'left/right', 'up/down'. I don't see feeling/emotion as a polarity (because I believe there is a bassline of wellbeing), though feeling/emotion can certainly be experienced as a polarity, and when working with feeling/emotion, it can even be useful to consider it as a polarity. Similarly, I don't see ego as the polar opposite of Being. And, to piggyback on to my earlier thread, all healing works in the same manner, via polarity. In Eastern methods of healing, they use organic-whole methods, mostly prevention or catching-early. When disease has occurred, something has disrupted the ordinary 'energy-circuits'. In Taoism, the meridians, in Ayurveda, the flow of Prana is disrupted. In these, the remedy is to get the natural flow of energy back. IOW, when disease occurs, something has disrupted the flow of energy from Source to the-individual-expression. That, in and of itself, speaks volumes about the nature of the manifest world. |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jul 13, 2024 11:31:04 GMT -5
The problem is, we live in the world as it is. Some of the earliest writings, the I Ching. Leibniz knew of and recognized the I Ching as a binary language. It's all a series of broken lines ___ ___ yin and unbroken lines ______ yang. Originally, yin meant the shady side of a tree, yang meant the side of the tree in the Sun. The originators of the I Ching recognized the patterns on a tortoise shell, and connected them with events-in-life. So they collected these tortoise shells, they were kind of books. Chuang Tzu makes reference to them in the story about fishing on the River Pu. Fu Xi was the first guy who first saw the patterns. Eventually they decided they didn't have to kill tortoises, and they designed the binary patterns of the 64 hexagrams of the I Ching, and described the meaning of each hexagram. So all of life is the movement of yang rising and falling, and eventually turning into yin, and likewise rising and falling. We see polarity everywhere, in electricity, in atoms, in work and relaxation, night and day, summer and winter, fall and spring, the inbreath, the outbreath. So we here on Earth have to deal with duality, the dual world. Yes, there is one united whole, but there are these two flows within the whole. Without the two flows, the manifest world would not exist. And it all begins with an outward flow, involution. And then there is a backwards flow back-to-the-One, evolution. All the events of life occur because of a mixture of these two flows. Protons, electrons and neutrons, are not imaginary. Polarity exists. The nastiness of life arises out of the flow away from Source, terrorism, murder, rape, the "seven deadly sins". All truth, goodness and beauty arises from the flow back to Oneness. THE TURTLE Chuang Tzu with his bamboo pole Was fishing in Pu river. The Prince of Chu Sent two vice-chancellors With a fonnal document: "We hereby appoint you Prime Minister." Chuang Tzu held his bamboo pole. Still watching Pu river, He said: "I am told there is a sacred tortoise, Offered and canonized Three thousand years ago, Venerated by the prince, Wrapped in silk, In a precious shrine On an altar In the Temple. "What do you think: Is it better to give up one's life And leave a sacred shell As an object of cult In a cloud of incense Three thousand years, Or better to live As a plain turtle Dragging its tail in the mud?" "For the turtle," said the Vice-Chancellor, "Better to live And drag its tail in the mud!" "Go home!" said Chuang Tzu. "Leave me here To drag my tail in the mud!" [xvii. II.] Not really. Duality is a mind-made creation just as non-duality is a mind-made creation. We do not live in duality; we imagine duality. Imagining duality is okay as long as one doesn't forget that the idea is imaginary, or, as Rumi might put it, "is like a flower in the air." If one is driving to the store to buy groceries and the mind is totally silent, where is anything dual? THIS is aware. THIS sees and responds to "what is" without needing to imagine anything. In this state of oneness where can two be found? You couldn't drive to the store without the principles of polarity in operation, fuel via the engine making the wheels turn. That's what Fu Xi discovered, the principles of yin-yang polarity in operation. And he discovered they operate, everywhere, in the manifest universe. Why do we have tornados? Polarity. Why do we have hurricanes? Polarity. Why do we have global warming? Polarity. Why is there the giant-dot-storm on Jupiter, as big as the Earth? Polarity. How is the Sun fueled? Polarity. More-energy, is positive-active; less-energy, is negative-receptive. The food fights we used to see here, were definitely a result of polarity. The only reason we don't have them any more, is just because the subjects that caused them the most, are not allowed. The underlying tension, is still present. My battery is almost dead, also a result of polarity. |
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Post by zendancer on Jul 13, 2024 13:10:44 GMT -5
Polarity, like duality, is also a mind-made imaginary idea. It's okay to think that kind of thought, but it's certainly unnecessary.
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jul 13, 2024 15:07:33 GMT -5
Polarity, like duality, is also a mind-made imaginary idea. It's okay to think that kind of thought, but it's certainly unnecessary. Take a pair of wire cutters, cut the power company seal off the latch of your meter-base. Take the cover off, open the latch, lift up from the bottom, the top will disengage. Hold the glass, push up firmly, that will disengage the meter from the bottom power stabs. Then pull the top of the meter from the top stabs, firmly pulling outward. Then stick your hand in there just about anywhere, but especially on the top lugs, where the electricity from the power company enters. Then come back and tell me polarity is imaginary. (You can actually touch the bottom lugs all you want, as they feed your house panel, they are not energized unless the meter is in place. You can actually touch the top lugs, but only one at a time, if you are not grounded, that is, if you are standing on insulating material, wood or rubber is good (I've seen my boss throw down a tire to stand on, at Gerrard Tire Co, and work a service hot), and you don't also touch the meter-base. I watched my boss do this a hundred times, once even in the pouring rain, he just made a plywood "umbrella"). We have to live in *this* world, not some airy-fairy castle in the clouds. You negate thousands of years of Taoism and Vedanta. The inbreath and the outbreath of Brahman, are polarities. You turn reality into a unicorn. No, the word is not-the-thing, but words can represent reality. The manifest universe is made-from polarities. I've been thrown across a room from a shock, it was a small panel room, so I was thrown only about six feet, against the opposite wall. I was pulling a fish-tape in a hot panel, a fish-tape sometimes has a mind of its own, I learned. Electricians, that don't understand polarity, don't live long, so it is necessary. |
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