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Post by sharon on Jul 22, 2024 15:40:19 GMT -5
I take it as a first principle that consciousness only comes from Consciousness. But, that said, I'm talking about biological life. Life reproduces itself, makes copies of itself. So there has to be a means to do this. Today we know this is accomplished via genetic information. Coding information is the key. Reproducing itself requires energy processing. So, life takes in energy from the environment, and building materials, and reproduces itself. For variety, male and female aspects were introduced to allow combining of different genes. The earth's magnetic field blocks and deflects Solar radiation, comic rays (gamma rays are deadly to life), and CMEs, which would be even more deadly to beginning forms of life. So copying and manipulating information is a very significant requirement for life. Now, the big picture, which science and biology does not yet have access to, life works from top-down as well as bottom-up. So many ~patterns~ in nature, come from ~invisible~ information-fields, which influence living organisms. In man, part of the ~invisible~, meaning, science cannot detect it, comes from the alayavijnana body the storehouse consciousness. It takes 3 to conceive a baby, mother, daddy, the alayavijnana consciousness of the incarnating individuality, which supplies the info whereby the egg-genes and the sperm-genes are chosen, through resonance. Being attracts unto itself what it is like. Causality operates from two directions, the visible bottom-up, and the ~invisible~ top-down. The ~invisible~ top-down takes presidence over the visible bottom-up. However, bottom-up is the default mechanism, the ~invisible~ top-down can operate under certain conditions (which A-H describes pretty well, and Seth). Possibilities abound, but they have to be sought. The problem is, who is the seeker? (The so-called SVP neural circuits try to reproduce and protect themselves, they obstruct connection to the Whole, which is vastly more intelligent).The torus is the means of connecting "the higher" and "the lower". Vortex is another name for torus. The point is, nonduality does exclude polarity. Polarity exited billions of years before abstract language. Fascinating. The brain is completely immersed in the Whole and is completely dependent on it for it's existence and it's survival and yet it is able to form a thought that denies that. |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jul 22, 2024 17:31:10 GMT -5
I take it as a first principle that consciousness only comes from Consciousness. But, that said, I'm talking about biological life. Life reproduces itself, makes copies of itself. So there has to be a means to do this. Today we know this is accomplished via genetic information. Coding information is the key. Reproducing itself requires energy processing. So, life takes in energy from the environment, and building materials, and reproduces itself. For variety, male and female aspects were introduced to allow combining of different genes. The earth's magnetic field blocks and deflects Solar radiation, comic rays (gamma rays are deadly to life), and CMEs, which would be even more deadly to beginning forms of life. So copying and manipulating information is a very significant requirement for life. Now, the big picture, which science and biology does not yet have access to, life works from top-down as well as bottom-up. So many ~patterns~ in nature, come from ~invisible~ information-fields, which influence living organisms. In man, part of the ~invisible~, meaning, science cannot detect it, comes from the alayavijnana body the storehouse consciousness. It takes 3 to conceive a baby, mother, daddy, the alayavijnana consciousness of the incarnating individuality, which supplies the info whereby the egg-genes and the sperm-genes are chosen, through resonance. Being attracts unto itself what it is like. Causality operates from two directions, the visible bottom-up, and the ~invisible~ top-down. The ~invisible~ top-down takes presidence over the visible bottom-up. However, bottom-up is the default mechanism, the ~invisible~ top-down can operate under certain conditions (which A-H describes pretty well, and Seth). Possibilities abound, but they have to be sought. The problem is, who is the seeker? (The so-called SVP neural circuits try to reproduce and protect themselves, they obstruct connection to the Whole, which is vastly more intelligent).The torus is the means of connecting "the higher" and "the lower". Vortex is another name for torus. The point is, nonduality does exclude polarity. Polarity exited billions of years before abstract language. Fascinating. The brain is completely immersed in the Whole and is completely dependent on it for it's existence and it's survival and yet it is able to form a thought that denies that. Yes.  |
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Post by sharon on Jul 23, 2024 2:45:27 GMT -5
Fascinating. The brain is completely immersed in the Whole and is completely dependent on it for it's existence and it's survival and yet it is able to form a thought that denies that. Yes. Some tears are to be respected, they are indicative of breakthrough moments. |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jul 23, 2024 8:15:48 GMT -5
Yes. Some tears are to be respected, they are indicative of breakthrough moments. It's feels like we're having a different conversation (?) |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jul 23, 2024 8:17:30 GMT -5
Fascinating. The brain is completely immersed in the Whole and is completely dependent on it for it's existence and it's survival and yet it is able to form a thought that denies that. Yes. I was affirming that's a sad fact. |
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Post by sharon on Jul 23, 2024 17:30:13 GMT -5
Yes. I was affirming that's a sad fact. When you say the word fact, what do you really mean? I'm sure that it's quite obvious to the majority of people that their brain is never independant of their environment. However, I imagine you're going to inform me that in your subjective reality that's not possible. |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jul 23, 2024 18:29:33 GMT -5
I was affirming that's a sad fact. When you say the word fact, what do you really mean? I'm sure that it's quite obvious to the majority of people that their brain is never independant of their environment. However, I imagine you're going to inform me that in your subjective reality that's not possible. I'm sure ~most people~ never even consider it. So it wouldn't be obvious. ...And, my whole is vastly bigger than your whole, I'm sure. Sometimes I forget to 'translate', between terms. I got lost, I couldn't even figure out what we were talking about. When I said fact, I was referring to what you said, exactly. The original comment: The problem is, who is the seeker? (The so-called SVP neural circuits try to reproduce and protect themselves, they obstruct [knowledge of] connection to the Whole, which is vastly more intelligent). I added [knowledge of], does that help, clarify? I don't know what you mean by your last sentence. ~~~~~~~~ I'd say, seeking, originates ~from that which arises~ from-the-Whole. Most people don't know that, so assume that it is the so-called SVP who is seeking. However, IMPOV, the so-called SVP consists of merely conditioning. So the only (unconscious) job/purpose of the so-called SVP, is survival. So in most people, the so-called SVP, and the Whole, are at odds with each other, they oppose each other. It's just not in the game that the so-called SVP can survive, period. At some point, IMPOV, the so-called SVP, sees all this (there is knowing what the individual-being-is, is vastly more than it previously considered), sees it is nothing and is going nowhere (what it thought it was, is merely conditioning). When the so-called SVP (the self-circuits) sees this, it knows the game is up, it has no real future, then, that's when the real journey begins. IOW, it's not enough to see the so-called SVP is imaginary. The so-called SVP has to cease to influence the activity of the individuality/body. It recognizes it is not in control, anyway, so it has to yield, stop. This is what Gopal has seen, that Gopal has to stop chasing (the objects of thoughts, feelings, and to some extent, even bodily actions, they are all connected, intertwined). Removing the energy that maintains the self-circuits, is accomplished via practice (living through attention and awareness, not through thoughts, not through feelings/emotions, not through learned bodily actions). |
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Post by sharon on Jul 24, 2024 2:05:15 GMT -5
When you say the word fact, what do you really mean? I'm sure that it's quite obvious to the majority of people that their brain is never independant of their environment. However, I imagine you're going to inform me that in your subjective reality that's not possible. I'm sure ~most people~ never even consider it. So it wouldn't be obvious. ...And, my whole is vastly bigger than your whole, I'm sure. Sometimes I forget to 'translate', between terms. I got lost, I couldn't even figure out what we were talking about. When I said fact, I was referring to what you said, exactly. The original comment: The problem is, who is the seeker? (The so-called SVP neural circuits try to reproduce and protect themselves, they obstruct [knowledge of] connection to the Whole, which is vastly more intelligent). I added [knowledge of], does that help, clarify? I don't know what you mean by your last sentence. ~~~~~~~~ I'd say, seeking, originates ~from that which arises~ from-the-Whole. Most people don't know that, so assume that it is the so-called SVP who is seeking. However, IMPOV, the so-called SVP consists of merely conditioning. So the only (unconscious) job/purpose of the so-called SVP, is survival. So in most people, the so-called SVP, and the Whole, are at odds with each other, they oppose each other. It's just not in the game that the so-called SVP can survive, period. At some point, IMPOV, the so-called SVP, sees all this (there is knowing what the individual-being-is, is vastly more than it previously considered), sees it is nothing and is going nowhere (what it thought it was, is merely conditioning). When the so-called SVP (the self-circuits) sees this, it knows the game is up, it has no real future, then, that's when the real journey begins. IOW, it's not enough to see the so-called SVP is imaginary. The so-called SVP has to cease to influence the activity of the individuality/body. It recognizes it is not in control, anyway, so it has to yield, stop. This is what Gopal has seen, that Gopal has to stop chasing (the objects of thoughts, feelings, and to some extent, even bodily actions, they are all connected, intertwined). Removing the energy that maintains the self-circuits, is accomplished via practice (living through attention and awareness, not through thoughts, not through feelings/emotions, not through learned bodily actions).  Yeah, but, mine is capitalised so it's clearly superior in stature and in scope.  |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jul 24, 2024 5:28:14 GMT -5
I'm sure ~most people~ never even consider it. So it wouldn't be obvious. ...And, my whole is vastly bigger than your whole, I'm sure. Sometimes I forget to 'translate', between terms. I got lost, I couldn't even figure out what we were talking about. When I said fact, I was referring to what you said, exactly. The original comment: The problem is, who is the seeker? (The so-called SVP neural circuits try to reproduce and protect themselves, they obstruct [knowledge of] connection to the Whole, which is vastly more intelligent). I added [knowledge of], does that help, clarify? I don't know what you mean by your last sentence. ~~~~~~~~ I'd say, seeking, originates ~from that which arises~ from-the-Whole. Most people don't know that, so assume that it is the so-called SVP who is seeking. However, IMPOV, the so-called SVP consists of merely conditioning. So the only (unconscious) job/purpose of the so-called SVP, is survival. So in most people, the so-called SVP, and the Whole, are at odds with each other, they oppose each other. It's just not in the game that the so-called SVP can survive, period. At some point, IMPOV, the so-called SVP, sees all this (there is knowing what the individual-being-is, is vastly more than it previously considered), sees it is nothing and is going nowhere (what it thought it was, is merely conditioning). When the so-called SVP (the self-circuits) sees this, it knows the game is up, it has no real future, then, that's when the real journey begins. IOW, it's not enough to see the so-called SVP is imaginary. The so-called SVP has to cease to influence the activity of the individuality/body. It recognizes it is not in control, anyway, so it has to yield, stop. This is what Gopal has seen, that Gopal has to stop chasing (the objects of thoughts, feelings, and to some extent, even bodily actions, they are all connected, intertwined). Removing the energy that maintains the self-circuits, is accomplished via practice (living through attention and awareness, not through thoughts, not through feelings/emotions, not through learned bodily actions). Yeah, but, mine is capitalised so it's clearly superior in stature and in scope.  |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jul 31, 2024 21:50:15 GMT -5
This is pretty cool, I'll check him out further.
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Aug 1, 2024 14:33:54 GMT -5
Two states must necessarily exist, or we could not be communicating. All these words are coded in binary language,1s and 0s. These are represented by off and on, in a computer. Everything that is, is coded in such a manner. Everything exists as some form of crest and trough of a wave phenomenon. The same.
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Post by inavalan on Aug 1, 2024 16:22:43 GMT -5
Even dictionaries spread some confusion about the meaning of the word (and concept) " duality": - A duality is a situation in which two opposite ideas or feelings exist at the same time.
e.g. We live in a world of duality, day and night, positive and negative, male and female, etc.
Synonyms: dualism, dichotomy, polarity, doubleness
- If there is a dichotomy between two things, there is a very great difference or opposition between them.
e.g. There is a dichotomy between the academic world and the industrial world. [+ between]
Synonyms: division, gulf, split, separation
When I read / hear "duality" I think: wave-particle duality. Similarly, I think: consciousness-awareness duality. On the other hand: gestalt-element dichotomy, subjective-objective dichotomy. EDIT: www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/dualitywww.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/dichotomy |
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Post by andrew on Nov 15, 2024 20:56:58 GMT -5
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Nov 16, 2024 21:27:18 GMT -5
I've studied this somewhat off and on for years. As far as I remember, we are due for a magnetic pole shift. The polarity of the south goes to the north and the north goes to the south. When it happens it will happen quickly. I've studied a lot of various other factors. There have been several films made in the last 20+ years about a comet or meteorite hitting the earth. The Nostradamus prophecies. There is an asteroid coming very close to earth in 2029, close but it will not hit. The name escapes me, I'll search it. But it cycles regularly, every six years. They cannot calculate from the near miss what will happen in 2035, it could hit earth then, we won't know until 2029. And then you have CME, one big one could destroy many electrical grids, and satellite communication. So I'd like to live another ten-fifteen years, to see how it all plays out. I think maybe some day it will be like a row of dominos falling. And yes, although Gurdjieff did not say so specifically, he wrote in Beelzebub's Tales about "calamities not according to law", one being the sinking of Atlantis, he writes about at least 5 that have occurred in the past. But he hinted that there is another major one coming, relatively soon. The first calamity was how the earth's moon was formed. Gurdjieff wrote about how the moon was formed 100 years ago, which scientists only formulated by examining the rocks we collected from the moon landings. It's been discussed in a couple of How the Universe Works episodes. It's so close it can't be coincidence. Formation of the moon |
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Yeah, but, mine is capitalised so it's clearly superior in stature and in scope. 
