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Post by melvin on Sept 5, 2024 21:48:19 GMT -5
That's AI commenting on your statement I quoted. Melvin is using AI to understand what you guys are saying here in this forum. My use of the English language is limited. I am a Filipino, from the Philippines. So, please understand if I am not good at writing in English to explain to you fully well what's on my mind regarding an issue. We have different dialects in the Philippines. There's Visaya, Tagalog, Ilonggo, Waray, Tausog, and a lot more. In school, we are taught as our medium of instruction in English and Filipino. In my place, we speak Visaya. I see. If I were you, I would prefer using google translate instead of AI. AI is a search engine, it interprets what it is asked, and replies based on the conventional wisdom. What we talk here isn't conventional wisdom, so it is likely that AI will distort what the original text intended to convey. I believe that even listening to a venerated guru, that speaks your native language, is useful only in the very early stages of learning, when you acquire the basics. Later, I believe that all gurus should be discarded, in the favor of consulting only your inner source of knowledge and guidance, being always aware the you'll inherently distort what you receive, due to your beliefs and to your current level of evolvement. Whatever I or another posts can be used only as basis to query your inner guru, and not used as a source of knowledge, not to understand it and adopt it as it is conveyed.
nakikita ko. Kung ako sa iyo, mas gugustuhin kong gumamit ng google translate kaysa AI. Ang AI ay isang search engine, binibigyang kahulugan nito kung ano ang itinatanong dito, at tumutugon batay sa nakasanayang karunungan. Ang pinag-uusapan natin dito ay hindi tradisyonal na karunungan, kaya malamang na ibaluktot ng AI ang nais ipahiwatig ng orihinal na teksto. Naniniwala ako na kahit ang pakikinig sa isang pinarangalan na guro, na nagsasalita ng iyong sariling wika, ay kapaki-pakinabang lamang sa mga unang yugto ng pag-aaral, kapag nakuha mo ang mga pangunahing kaalaman. Nang maglaon, naniniwala ako na ang lahat ng mga guru ay dapat na itapon, sa pabor na kumonsulta lamang sa iyong panloob na pinagmumulan ng kaalaman at patnubay, na laging nalalaman na likas mong papangitin ang iyong natatanggap, dahil sa iyong mga paniniwala at sa iyong kasalukuyang antas ng pag-unlad. Anuman ako o iba pang mga post ay magagamit lamang bilang batayan sa pagtatanong sa iyong panloob na guro, at hindi ginagamit bilang isang mapagkukunan ng kaalaman, hindi upang unawain ito at tanggapin ito ayon sa inihahatid. Using AI gives me an idea of what you are trying to imply at in the discussion. Ultimately, it is within me, the inner self that gives me the instruction of what is being implied. Please dont misunderstood me if I use AI on some of your statements or points of you. It's sort of a comparative study of one using his/her intelligence and one that is AI. To discern what is, is left to the individual to know what's best for one to accept as a viable reason for what is being presented. |
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Post by inavalan on Sept 5, 2024 22:13:37 GMT -5
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Post by melvin on Sept 5, 2024 22:52:24 GMT -5
Maybe you are more intelligent than AI. May you please interpret for me the 229 Nisagardatta Maharaj quotes I posted on the thread, The Truth, I created? So far, I have 18 AI interpretations of Nisa's quotes. If you can do it for me I would be most grateful for your wisdom. |
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Post by melvin on Sept 5, 2024 23:38:00 GMT -5
Inavalan: The reason why figgles banned me from SpiritualGab was when I started using Nisa's quotes with AI interpretations. She must have dispised the competition, all my works gone. If she's self-realized then why is her humility absent? She thinks she knows it all. One can't lived with that. I wonder how's she doing now with that discussion forum she created. You were there when the thread, The Great Awakening, was posted during the pandemic. What happened to it? Was there really one?
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Post by inavalan on Sept 6, 2024 1:23:11 GMT -5
Maybe you are more intelligent than AI. May you please interpret for me the 229 Nisagardatta Maharaj quotes I posted on the thread, The Truth, I created? So far, I have 18 AI interpretations of Nisa's quotes. If you can do it for me I would be most grateful for your wisdom. Intelligence is a tool, that becomes available on a certain level of consciousness. It can be misused, as any tool, and sometimes can do more damage than help. Then, it depends of what one means by intelligence. Take the example of an autistic person that can be brilliant at certain tasks, while nonfunctional at others. I read each one of your Niz quotes, as you posted them one by one, mentally interpreting it from the perspective of my views, but I stopped reading the AI's interpretations. I think that I already commented on what I interpret Niz' pointing at, although I cannot know what he meant, nor if my interpretation resonates with his views. As you said that it might be of some benefit to you, I'll think of a way to comment in a way that wouldn't require extensive work from my part. |
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Post by inavalan on Sept 6, 2024 1:52:00 GMT -5
Inavalan: The reason why figgles banned me from SpiritualGab was when I started using Nisa's quotes with AI interpretations. She must have dispised the competition, all my works gone. If she's self-realized then why is her humility absent? She thinks she knows it all. One can't lived with that. I wonder how's she doing now with that discussion forum she created. You were there when the thread, The Great Awakening, was posted during the pandemic. What happened to it? Was there really one? I look at some people as I look at kids, amused (not condescending), but occasionally they become annoying or ridiculous. I am not immune at that, but I make progress. I try to resolve some situations and emotions at a psychological level, or intuitively, which resonates with my views on reality. It works. I don't think about figgles, but if I were to do that, I'd try to intuitively interpret her: why she is how she is (as I perceive her to be), what is her lesson. Also, why I have her in my reality. Nothing is random in the reality we experience. Everything has meaning, and the lessons are redundant: we are repeatedly exposed to the same lesson in various implementations, until we get it. |
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Post by melvin on Sept 6, 2024 2:28:30 GMT -5
Maybe you are more intelligent than AI. May you please interpret for me the 229 Nisagardatta Maharaj quotes I posted on the thread, The Truth, I created? So far, I have 18 AI interpretations of Nisa's quotes. If you can do it for me I would be most grateful for your wisdom. Intelligence is a tool, that becomes available on a certain level of consciousness. It can be misused, as any tool, and sometimes can do more damage than help. Then, it depends of what one means by intelligence. Take the example of an autistic person that can be brilliant at certain tasks, while nonfunctional at others. I read each one of your Niz quotes, as you posted them one by one, mentally interpreting it from the perspective of my views, but I stopped reading the AI's interpretations. I think that I already commented on what I interpret Niz' pointing at, although I cannot know what he meant, nor if my interpretation resonates with his views. As you said that it might be of some benefit to you, I'll think of a way to comment in a way that wouldn't require extensive work from my part. Nisa's 229 quotes interpreted by AI will make a good book for beginners in self-realization. |
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Post by melvin on Sept 6, 2024 2:36:32 GMT -5
Inavalan: The reason why figgles banned me from SpiritualGab was when I started using Nisa's quotes with AI interpretations. She must have dispised the competition, all my works gone. If she's self-realized then why is her humility absent? She thinks she knows it all. One can't lived with that. I wonder how's she doing now with that discussion forum she created. You were there when the thread, The Great Awakening, was posted during the pandemic. What happened to it? Was there really one? I look at some people as I look at kids, amused (not condescending), but occasionally they become annoying or ridiculous. I am not immune at that, but I make progress. I try to resolve some situations and emotions at a psychological level, or intuitively, which resonates with my views on reality. It works. I don't think about figgles, but if I were to do that, I'd try to intuitively interpret her: why she is how she is (as I perceive her to be), what is her lesson. Also, why I have her in my reality.Nothing is random in the reality we experience. Everything has meaning, and the lessons are redundant: we are repeatedly exposed to the same lesson in various implementations, until we get it. AI: It sounds like you are exploring the idea of intuitively interpreting a character named "figgles" and understanding the lessons and purpose she may hold in your reality. When approaching this kind of exploration, it can be helpful to engage in reflective practices that tap into your intuition and inner wisdom. Here are some steps you might consider taking to intuitively interpret figgles and explore the lessons she may offer: 1. **Quiet Your Mind:** Find a quiet and peaceful space where you can relax and center yourself. Take a few deep breaths to calm your mind and enter a receptive state. 2. **Visualize figgles:** Bring the character of figgles to your awareness. Try to visualize her appearance, mannerisms, and any characteristics that stand out to you. 3. **Reflect on Her Qualities:** Consider the traits and behaviors of figgles as you perceive her. What patterns or themes do you notice? How do these qualities resonate with you or your current life experiences? 4. **Ask for Guidance:** Silently ask for guidance or insight into the meaning and purpose of figgles in your reality. Trust your intuition to provide you with valuable insights and interpretations. 5. **Explore Lessons:** Reflect on what lessons or messages figgles may be offering you. How do her presence and interactions reflect aspects of your own life journey or personal growth? 6. **Journaling:** Consider journaling about your intuitive interpretations of figgles. Write down any insights, revelations, or epiphanies that arise during this process. 7. **Gratitude:** Conclude your reflection by expressing gratitude for the lessons and insights figgles has brought into your reality. Embrace any newfound understandings and consider how you can apply them to your life moving forward. Remember, exploring symbolism, characters, and themes through intuition can open up new avenues of self-discovery and personal growth. Trust in your inner guidance and allow yourself to delve deeper into the mysteries and meanings that figgles may hold for you. |
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Post by laughter on Sept 6, 2024 3:10:29 GMT -5
I look at some people as I look at kids, amused (not condescending), but occasionally they become annoying or ridiculous. I am not immune at that, but I make progress. I try to resolve some situations and emotions at a psychological level, or intuitively, which resonates with my views on reality. It works. I don't think about figgles, but if I were to do that, I'd try to intuitively interpret her: why she is how she is (as I perceive her to be), what is her lesson. Also, why I have her in my reality.Nothing is random in the reality we experience. Everything has meaning, and the lessons are redundant: we are repeatedly exposed to the same lesson in various implementations, until we get it. AI: It sounds like you are exploring the idea of intuitively interpreting a character named "figgles" and understanding the lessons and purpose she may hold in your reality. When approaching this kind of exploration, it can be helpful to engage in reflective practices that tap into your intuition and inner wisdom. Here are some steps you might consider taking to intuitively interpret figgles and explore the lessons she may offer: 1. **Quiet Your Mind:** Find a quiet and peaceful space where you can relax and center yourself. Take a few deep breaths to calm your mind and enter a receptive state. 2. **Visualize figgles:** Bring the character of figgles to your awareness. Try to visualize her appearance, mannerisms, and any characteristics that stand out to you. 3. **Reflect on Her Qualities:** Consider the traits and behaviors of figgles as you perceive her. What patterns or themes do you notice? How do these qualities resonate with you or your current life experiences? 4. **Ask for Guidance:** Silently ask for guidance or insight into the meaning and purpose of figgles in your reality. Trust your intuition to provide you with valuable insights and interpretations. 5. **Explore Lessons:** Reflect on what lessons or messages figgles may be offering you. How do her presence and interactions reflect aspects of your own life journey or personal growth? 6. **Journaling:** Consider journaling about your intuitive interpretations of figgles. Write down any insights, revelations, or epiphanies that arise during this process. 7. **Gratitude:** Conclude your reflection by expressing gratitude for the lessons and insights figgles has brought into your reality. Embrace any newfound understandings and consider how you can apply them to your life moving forward. Remember, exploring symbolism, characters, and themes through intuition can open up new avenues of self-discovery and personal growth. Trust in your inner guidance and allow yourself to delve deeper into the mysteries and meanings that figgles may hold for you.  .. rent free mind space!  (not asymmetric) .. ("intuitively interpreting a character named 'figgles'" .. cracks me up!) |
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Post by Gopal on Sept 6, 2024 8:24:34 GMT -5
Precisely, this basic truth is straightforward to grasp. However, I find it puzzling why many people struggle with it. Everything we perceive, feel, and think is internal, regardless of whether an external world exists or not. Then, Gopal and inavalan, tell me, when Gopal and inavalan come to a red light, and are at 90 angles, how do you avoid an accident? If there is no exterior world, how do you come to agreement?, red light means stop, green light means go. Occam's razor tells us an exterior world is the simplest solution. Otherwise, you have to start creating "epicycles" to make things come out right. Okay, I started to believe that this topic is not yours to understand. |
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Post by Gopal on Sept 6, 2024 12:47:47 GMT -5
Then, Gopal and inavalan, tell me, when Gopal and inavalan come to a red light, and are at 90 angles, how do you avoid an accident? If there is no exterior world, how do you come to agreement?, red light means stop, green light means go. Occam's razor tells us an exterior world is the simplest solution. Otherwise, you have to start creating "epicycles" to make things come out right. From my perspective, you keep asking the same kind of question, so I keep giving the same kind of answer. You keep interpreting it as the same kind of unsatisfactory answer because this is what you expect, according to your beliefs. For you, it doesn't matter what I reply, but only what you read into it. For me, it matters only what I interpret this repeating exchange to mean: it is a warning, which I keep repeating to myself, not to make the mistake to believe that what I perceive is necessarily as it seems. Same feeling here |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Sept 6, 2024 16:25:41 GMT -5
Then, Gopal and inavalan, tell me, when Gopal and inavalan come to a red light, and are at 90 angles, how do you avoid an accident? If there is no exterior world, how do you come to agreement?, red light means stop, green light means go. Occam's razor tells us an exterior world is the simplest solution. Otherwise, you have to start creating "epicycles" to make things come out right. Okay, I started to believe that this topic is not yours to understand. It's a very simple question. I probably understand it better than you do. The whole point is, whatever the Source, the world we function in, even if it's only in your own consciousness, is structured, it obeys certain rules and laws. And it is a shared world (for the most part). |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Sept 6, 2024 16:30:15 GMT -5
Then, Gopal and inavalan, tell me, when Gopal and inavalan come to a red light, and are at 90 angles, how do you avoid an accident? If there is no exterior world, how do you come to agreement?, red light means stop, green light means go. Occam's razor tells us an exterior world is the simplest solution. Otherwise, you have to start creating "epicycles" to make things come out right. From my perspective, you keep asking the same kind of question, so I keep giving the same kind of answer. You keep interpreting it as the same kind of unsatisfactory answer because this is what you expect, according to your beliefs. For you, it doesn't matter what I reply, but only what you read into it. For me, it matters only what I interpret this repeating exchange to mean: it is a warning, which I keep repeating to myself, not to make the mistake to believe that what I perceive is necessarily as it seems. I'm only asking, how do you explain that we live in an obviously shared world (physically anyway)? |
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Post by inavalan on Sept 6, 2024 23:48:46 GMT -5
From my perspective, you keep asking the same kind of question, so I keep giving the same kind of answer. You keep interpreting it as the same kind of unsatisfactory answer because this is what you expect, according to your beliefs. For you, it doesn't matter what I reply, but only what you read into it. For me, it matters only what I interpret this repeating exchange to mean: it is a warning, which I keep repeating to myself, not to make the mistake to believe that what I perceive is necessarily as it seems. I'm only asking, how do you explain that we live in an obviously shared world ( physically anyway)? that is in the physical world that you perceive when awake, is created by your subconscious only for your benefit, from the information filtered through your beliefs, that it gathers from all the other participants in the physical reality framework that it temporarily associates with, the one that "resonates" the closest with, from the endless number of possible versions that exist, and with which potentially it can and dynamically does associate. In my opinion, what seems obvious to you is a distortion: like the Sun traveling on a sky above a flat Earth. Your question is irrelevant to my understanding of reality. If I experienced a situation as you suggested, while dreaming or awake, I would intuitively interpret it as deeply as I can, to understand what in my beliefs, emotions, and expectations caused me to experienced that. I'd draw then some knowledge and guidance from it, new, confirming, or differentiating. The outcome of that situation (while dreaming or awake) would gauge my ability to deal with negative suggestions. A more positive outcome would be a better grade for me than a less negative outcome. For example (apolitically) the failed attempt at Trump's life: that was caused only by his beliefs, emotions, and expectations; by nothing else. The relatively benign outcome for him, shows that his ability to deal with negative suggestions is quite high. This correlates with other pieces of information about him, bits and pieces form various commentaries. |
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Post by melvin on Sept 7, 2024 3:26:19 GMT -5
" how do you explain that we live in an obviously shared world (physically anyway)?"
- Stardustpilgrim
AI: We live in a shared world physically, mentally, and emotionally. Physically, we share the same planet - Earth - with all its resources, environments, and ecosystems. We are interconnected through the air we breathe, the water we drink, and the food we eat. Our physical existence is intertwined with that of other living beings and the environment around us.
From a mental and emotional perspective, we also inhabit a shared world of thoughts, feelings, and experiences. While each individual has a unique internal world shaped by personal history, beliefs, and perspectives, we are connected through our capacity for empathy, understanding, and communication. We share common emotions like joy, sadness, fear, and love that transcend cultural, social, and geographical boundaries.
In our shared world, collaboration, cooperation, and mutual support are essential for our collective well-being and progress. By recognizing our interconnectedness and interdependence, we can cultivate a sense of unity, compassion, and solidarity that transcends differences and promotes harmony.
Acknowledging our shared existence can inspire us to act with greater awareness and responsibility towards one another, the planet, and future generations. It encourages us to consider the impact of our actions on others and the environment, fostering a sense of stewardship and care for the world we all inhabit together.
Ultimately, understanding that we live in a shared world inspires us to cultivate a sense of community, inclusivity, and respect for diversity. By embracing our interconnected nature and working together towards common goals, we can create a more harmonious, sustainable, and compassionate world for all beings to thrive.
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.. rent free mind space! 
(not asymmetric) .. ("intuitively interpreting a character named 'figgles'" .. cracks me up!)
