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Post by sree on Nov 24, 2022 12:20:08 GMT -5
What a charming goal in life, Gopal. I see The Ruler hath returneth. Hip hip hurray.  I am not doing it now, I tried in the past out of curiosity and realized that it was working. My motto is to make him understand that he can't control even via subconsciousness. Do it, Gopal. Make someNOTHING do something. Make him gobble gobble and prance stark naked like a turkey today in front of everyone at dinner. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2022 12:20:11 GMT -5
It's almost a certainty that the simplicity of Reality was not missed by some in every culture. Though in some milleaus, they would have to choose their words carefully, lest they be slaughtered. It's always interesting to me that once confronted by the pharisees for claiming to be God, Jesus doesn't confirm or deny. He mentions one of David's psalms with a very peculiar suggestion. Even if the incident were made up, it makes you wonder about the motivation for including it. The passage could just as easily had Jesus confirming it and persuading the pharisees through another one of many miracles. There is very little doubt that Jesus deliberately provoked the Pharisees. He picked his battles and the timing. I have no doubt that Jesus chose to die on Passover, he orchestrated everything, he wrote the script. Now, the only question is why? He is not the script writer, but he knows the script, that's why he is asking to the script writer as
Luke 22 : 41 He withdrew from them about a stone’s throw, and He knelt down and prayed, 42 “Father, if You are willing, remove this cup from Me. Nevertheless not My will, but Yours, be done.”
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2022 12:25:01 GMT -5
Creepy! This reminds me of this dude I met at a recent social event. I had been having a normal conversation, about cats and dogs, with a woman. The guy then asks me if I'm going to "get her number" and asks if she is "compliant". He kept talking about women being "compliant" and it grossed me out. He had been reading some kind of guide on how to manipulate women and his whole view of the world was about how to control and manipulate people as objects. I didn't want to tangle with him, so I didn't say anything. In my opinion it would be better (more honest) to pay a prostitute than attempt to manipulate people while feigning interest in some kind of relationship. Yes, basically that is *black magic*. Any form of manipulation is black magic. Some people do know how to manipulate other people and even situations and events. Some people are control freaks, in their own little world. It's not a black magic, that's the way mind works! There is something called deliberate creation, you could visualize the DESIRED reality and make it happen. If you can see something in your mind's eye, then your creative part of mind kicks in. You could go to the shop and get the apple, or you could visualize that you are having the apple in your hand and you will be having soon by some way. It's that simple. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2022 12:26:10 GMT -5
Yes, basically that is *black magic*. Any form of manipulation is black magic. Some people do know how to manipulate other people and even situations and events. Some people are control freaks, in their own little world. Yes, but every real magician also knows that there's a price to pay for every manipulative act. Your feeling actually manipulate the reality but you are not aware of that. Whether you know or not, that doesn't change how mind works. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2022 12:27:12 GMT -5
I can program your subconscious and you can't stop me by anyway. You will be thinking that it's coming from you not from me. You will not be even having a clue that I am sending those thoughts to you. You can fight against those thoughts but as long as I do, you keep fighting with your thoughts and at one point in time you would give up your defense and surrender to me. This kind of influence is being used to create attraction against opposite sex. Will you have a clue if you are programmed by someone? Nope. I can't. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2022 12:28:23 GMT -5
I am not doing it now, I tried in the past out of curiosity and realized that it was working. My motto is to make him understand that he can't control even via subconsciousness. Do it, Gopal. Make someNOTHING do something. Make him gobble gobble and prance stark naked like a turkey today in front of everyone at dinner.  |
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Post by Reefs on Nov 24, 2022 12:50:39 GMT -5
I am not doing it now, I tried in the past out of curiosity and realized that it was working. My motto is to make him understand that he can't control even via subconsciousness. Do it, Gopal. Make someNOTHING do something. Make him gobble gobble and prance stark naked like a turkey today in front of everyone at dinner. SN: "My instructor was Mr. Gopal and he taught me to sing a song. If you'd like to hear it, I can sing it for you..." |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Nov 24, 2022 13:42:58 GMT -5
Gopal is right, can doesn't mean one does. Most people are not even aware of how they are manipulated. The TV industry thrived for decades by manipulation, getting you to buy products you didn't need. The old "air"-broadcast TV was paid for by advertisements, you had the 3 networks, ABC, CBS and NBC. A particular company paid for advertising on a particular TV program on the basis of its sales and TV ratings. It all depended upon taking money out of your pocket. Cable TV changed that over years. Now, the internet has changed everything. But NOTHING is free in life. You're going to pay whether you know it or not. Most everything basically operates in this manner, through unconscious manipulation. A certain major celebrity-figure controlled the USA for 5 years. Gopal is correct. The first step to getting free is to come to know it in theory, then experience. Good for those who can circumvent the manipulation. Just below "water level" of the iceberg is suggestibility. Deeper is outright manipulation and control. "The best trick of the "devil" is to make you believe he doesn't exist". If you can talk to your subconscious, what is its language? Of course, Gopal is correct. The SVP is part of mass mind subject to manipulation. It is witch doctor stuff modernized by technology to zap tens and even hundreds of millions. This is why I practice minding my body to prevent the SVP from getting drawn away by evil forces.
Subconscious, my ass. It's right out in the open before your very eyes. Thanksgiving is part of the hex on the SVP.
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Nov 24, 2022 13:50:29 GMT -5
It's almost a certainty that the simplicity of Reality was not missed by some in every culture. Though in some milleaus, they would have to choose their words carefully, lest they be slaughtered. It's always interesting to me that once confronted by the pharisees for claiming to be God, Jesus doesn't confirm or deny. He mentions one of David's psalms with a very peculiar suggestion. Even if the incident were made up, it makes you wonder about the motivation for including it. The passage could just as easily had Jesus confirming it and persuading the pharisees through another one of many miracles. Jesus never claimed himself to be God. He was confronted by pharisees because he claimed himself to be the son of God. Look at the times Jesus said "I Am", there were many. Why did Jesus say: Before Abraham (was), I Am. Look especially at the trial when Caiaphas asked him if he was the Messiah. I think Jesus did him one better, when he said I Am, I think he used the most holy name of God, YHVH. No proof, but why did Caiaphas react so?, he tore his garments. |
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Post by sree on Nov 24, 2022 13:52:41 GMT -5
Yes, basically that is *black magic*. Any form of manipulation is black magic. Some people do know how to manipulate other people and even situations and events. Some people are control freaks, in their own little world. It's not a black magic, that's the way mind works! There is something called deliberate creation, you could visualize the DESIRED reality and make it happen. If you can see something in your mind's eye, then your creative part of mind kicks in. You could go to the shop and get the apple, or you could visualize that you are having the apple in your hand and you will be having soon by some way. It's that simple. You have brought up something that challenges the fundamental concept of "no-mind" western spirituality as practiced in this forum. Can you program someone like zendancer, Reefs, Laffy, or someNOTHING who is capable of attending the actual minus thought (ATA-T)?
I practice minding the body. Even though I cannot know if you are programming me, I become aware when my SVP starts to do something not connected to minding the body. I stop it.
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Nov 24, 2022 13:56:34 GMT -5
Yes, basically that is *black magic*. Any form of manipulation is black magic. Some people do know how to manipulate other people and even situations and events. Some people are control freaks, in their own little world. It's not a black magic, that's the way mind works! There is something called deliberate creation, you could visualize the DESIRED reality and make it happen. If you can see something in your mind's eye, then your creative part of mind kicks in. You could go to the shop and get the apple, or you could visualize that you are having the apple in your hand and you will be having soon by some way. It's that simple. But when you manipulate other people without their knowledge, that's 'black magic'. |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Nov 24, 2022 13:57:10 GMT -5
It's not a black magic, that's the way mind works! There is something called deliberate creation, you could visualize the DESIRED reality and make it happen. If you can see something in your mind's eye, then your creative part of mind kicks in. You could go to the shop and get the apple, or you could visualize that you are having the apple in your hand and you will be having soon by some way. It's that simple. You have brought up something that challenges the fundamental concept of "no-mind" western spirituality as practiced in this forum. Can you program someone like zendancer, Reefs, Laffy, or someNOTHING who is capable of attending the actual minus thought (ATA-T)?
I practice minding the body. Even though I cannot know if you are programming me, I become aware when my SVP starts to do something not connected to minding the body. I stop it.
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Post by sree on Nov 24, 2022 14:00:13 GMT -5
It's not a black magic, that's the way mind works! There is something called deliberate creation, you could visualize the DESIRED reality and make it happen. If you can see something in your mind's eye, then your creative part of mind kicks in. You could go to the shop and get the apple, or you could visualize that you are having the apple in your hand and you will be having soon by some way. It's that simple. But when you manipulate other people without their knowledge, that's 'black magic'. Do you think the US government is practicing black magic? |
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Post by sree on Nov 24, 2022 14:19:51 GMT -5
You have brought up something that challenges the fundamental concept of "no-mind" western spirituality as practiced in this forum. Can you program someone like zendancer, Reefs, Laffy, or someNOTHING who is capable of attending the actual minus thought (ATA-T)?
I practice minding the body. Even though I cannot know if you are programming me, I become aware when my SVP starts to do something not connected to minding the body. I stop it.
No.
No? Gopal was raised as a Hindu. He is still a practicing Hindu judging from that orange bindi on his forehead. The video below explains the orange color. But your western spirituality is atheism and stems from the renunciation of your faith: Christianity. You guys are spiritually rootless.
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Post by inavalan on Nov 24, 2022 14:40:59 GMT -5
Gopal stardustpilgrim This latest exchange, including the others' comments, is another example of miscommunication. We all have our systems of beliefs, and when we exchange opinions we focus on our physical-perceptions filtered by our conscious and unconscious beliefs. It is expected that each one of us has different beliefs, and uses words and information in specific ways. The miscommunication comes from the way we address and interpret the messages we perceive. We don't look to understand the meaning beyond the words. Most of us know no other way of perception, but there is an intuitive way that reduces distortions. We face the same issue with interpreting myths, old scriptures, but also events that we experience or learn about. Everything is a multi-layered symbolism that can be, and is interpreted at various depth levels by each individual. There's the saying "all hypnosis is self-hypnosis", but most people don't understand what it means.  ========== EDIT: For example, this isn't the telepathic suggestion I was talking about, while most of the replies were referring to this kind. This isn't about "free-will" either. link
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