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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2022 11:13:24 GMT -5
I've seen it before, but it was worth watching again. It's amazing. Humans really are remarkable creatures. Great video! I've seen it before, but I'm always amazed at how close he appears to come to trees and rock faces. One miscalculation and the ride comes to an abrupt end. There have been a few videos that ended like that too. One guy hit a metal bridge at high speed. |
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Post by zendancer on Jun 25, 2022 11:34:24 GMT -5
Great video! I've seen it before, but I'm always amazed at how close he appears to come to trees and rock faces. One miscalculation and the ride comes to an abrupt end. There have been a few videos that ended like that too. One guy hit a metal bridge at high speed. Yes, and several flyers have misjudged and crashed into trees or the sides of cliffs. One guy flew straight into the ground because he didn't open his chute in time. Gliding falls into the same high-risk category as BASE jumping or soloing without a belay. |
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Post by sree on Jun 25, 2022 15:20:57 GMT -5
Pardon me, I am new here and have no idea that you are into theism. I am on board with you with regard to "alignment" but supernaturalism belongs to another era. People do still believe in God but you don't come across as a superstitious guy. Alignment, to me, is a mysterious state. To view it in a context of personal power reinforces the paradigm of individualism.
Physical health is being discussed here in terms of the body, as in your body or my body but not the human body in general.
Why is selfishness such a powerful bent of mind? How do I align with the desire to wipe out this paradigm of individualism in which you and everyone else here are caught?
It's not personal, it's impersonal. That's the whole point of alignment. It transcends the personal. And by doing so you will have skills and knowledge available you normally wouldn't. Read what I just posted in the other thread on this topic: spiritualteachers.proboards.com/post/485952Alignment with desire is not personal? You seem to be all over the place. You used the concept of alignment and applied it to the fitness exercise of push-ups to build arm muscles. There is nothing impersonal about muscle building. It is a lifestyle routine of western culture not practiced by the rest of the west let alone all mankind.
What you have posted in your link to your Alan Watts thread is about “wu wei” (ending of desire) from the Tao Te Ching. What has this got to do with “alignment” as espoused by you?
In this day and age, even the Chinese have lost connection to their ancient philosophy. They think like us. They use the same concepts in the practice of spirituality and the use of technology. But they do prefer their own cuisine and abhor our moral ethics. I don't know what Alan Watts was drawing from his western perception of the Tao Te Ching, but I suspect you are dabbling in the beliefs of Taoism. In the East (Southeast Asia, Taiwan, Hong Kong) and among some ethnic Chinese in the West, Taoists have their rituals to draw power through alignment with the Tao. Martial artists have their "chi".
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2022 18:46:10 GMT -5
I'm curious what you (or anyone) think of this exercise. When I don't have a gym available (like at the moment) I sometimes do it. I call it a static squat, but maybe there is a correct technical name among trainers. I go down into a squat position with no weights, to get thighs parallel to floor, and just try to hold it. It is lactic acid agony for me. Longest I've made it is 2:20 or 2:30 I think. I just did one and gave up at 1:30. I actually saw it first in that old movie the "Peaceful Warrior" were the guru character (Nick Nolte) tells the gymnast guy to try it for 5 minutes. I'd like to have better lactate tolerance and this seems like a good test. |
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Post by lolly on Jun 25, 2022 20:41:47 GMT -5
I'm curious what you (or anyone) think of this exercise. When I don't have a gym available (like at the moment) I sometimes do it. I call it a static squat, but maybe there is a correct technical name among trainers. I go down into a squat position with no weights, to get thighs parallel to floor, and just try to hold it. It is lactic acid agony for me. Longest I've made it is 2:20 or 2:30 I think. I just did one and gave up at 1:30. I actually saw it first in that old movie the "Peaceful Warrior" were the guru character (Nick Nolte) tells the gymnast guy to try it for 5 minutes. I'd like to have better lactate tolerance and this seems like a good test. I love that movie! That is a great exercise... It's a good idea to hold the squat with thighs parallel to the floor OR at the lowest point above parallel you can with a straight spine and perfect posture. It's a huge burn - a real 'mind over matter' one -
It's not one that will produce great strength or huge muscles, but it will condition for endurance and mental fortitude and taming that reactive monster.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2022 21:23:09 GMT -5
I'm curious what you (or anyone) think of this exercise. When I don't have a gym available (like at the moment) I sometimes do it. I call it a static squat, but maybe there is a correct technical name among trainers. I go down into a squat position with no weights, to get thighs parallel to floor, and just try to hold it. It is lactic acid agony for me. Longest I've made it is 2:20 or 2:30 I think. I just did one and gave up at 1:30. I actually saw it first in that old movie the "Peaceful Warrior" were the guru character (Nick Nolte) tells the gymnast guy to try it for 5 minutes. I'd like to have better lactate tolerance and this seems like a good test. I love that movie! That is a great exercise... It's a good idea to hold the squat with thighs parallel to the floor OR at the lowest point above parallel you can with a straight spine and perfect posture. It's a huge burn - a real 'mind over matter' one -
It's not one that will produce great strength or huge muscles, but it will condition for endurance and mental fortitude and taming that reactive monster.
Continuing on the 'exercise without a gym' thread... maybe a one-legged (aka pistol) squat would do better at building muscle and strength, since I can't do many reps (maybe zero, if I go all the way down). |
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Post by lolly on Jun 25, 2022 22:38:29 GMT -5
I love that movie! That is a great exercise... It's a good idea to hold the squat with thighs parallel to the floor OR at the lowest point above parallel you can with a straight spine and perfect posture. It's a huge burn - a real 'mind over matter' one -
It's not one that will produce great strength or huge muscles, but it will condition for endurance and mental fortitude and taming that reactive monster.
Continuing on the 'exercise without a gym' thread... maybe a one-legged (aka pistol) squat would do better at building muscle and strength, since I can't do many reps (maybe zero, if I go all the way down). Oh man, pistol squats are hard! Lunges, split squats and step ups are all good, but don't do much for hamstrings. And ideally you'd want isolation drills or the glute muscle group, and some calf raises
One good tip with the squat is keep your toes pressed on the floor and twist your feet against the floor a bit. It keeps the feet solid and the knees stable. www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv0h4m_kltI This guy has good physiology knowledge - total legend! He gives 2 foot tips, but I suggest 'press toes, twist feet' is the better option because we want the coiled tension that stablises the entire chain.
Here are the ideas. You will notice in the video below that Jeff's legs are not stable in the squat (his squat is pretty bad actually). That's because he is not pressing his toes and twisting his feet against the floor. He also doesn't include calf raises, which is a pretty terrible oversight, and probably why his feet aren't particularly stable. His faults in form are common in people with flat feet. The mechanics of pressing the big toe in stablising the foot arch keeps the foot rigid and stops the ankles from rolling in, and in combination with twisting the feet against the floor a bit, stablises the knees and hips. Jeff is a fantastic coach who knows his physiology really well, so looking through his other home leg workouts will have a wealth of ideas.
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Post by Reefs on Jun 26, 2022 22:29:37 GMT -5
In Abe-lingo that would be the 'path of least resistance', i.e. the easiest, most fun, most satisfying and most effortless path to get what we want, given our current beliefs. And that can and often does vary greatly from individual to individual. Some people allow money into their experience only after hard work and reject all other avenues, like winning the lottery or someone just handing them a stash of money. And so their experience will be that they have to work hard for money. Others are more open in terms of how they allow money into their experience. And so their experience will be that money seems to just fall into their lap wherever they go... they may find a stash of money in their locker that someone forgot, or they win the lottery, or their bank makes an accounting error and their bank balance is suddenly 10 times more, or they see someone at the side of the road with a broken down car and decide to offer their help and give that poor fellow a ride back into the city and a week later they realize that all their debts are miraculously paid off, because the guy they helped that day was a billionaire who just wanted to show his gratitude... And people who only believe in hard work will find that really really unfair. But from a LOA perspective, it is as fair as it gets. As Abe always say, the universe has endless ways to surprise and delight you and to satisfy your wishes and deliver what you want. Just don't stand in the way with expectations of having it delivered a very specific way. They often say that there are at least 20 or 30 different avenues always available to you that would lead you to wherever you want. But you can't see them because you are so narrowly focused on things coming to you a certain way. It's like going to the dock to catch a ship and when you arrive there, there is already one waiting but instead of hopping on board you say "Nah, that's way too easy" and you let that one go. And then there comes immediately another one, but again you say "That's too easy, things don't come that easily. And if they do, then there surely must be something wrong with that somewhere" and so you let that one go as well and you keep rejecting ship after ship until you have waited long enough and finally feel that you deserve to get on one of those ships and you just take the next one that comes along... and then you get on board and say, "Whew, I'm glad I finally made it, that surely wasn't easy"  yeah, the concept of 'congruence' again springs to mind. I sometimes toy with the idea of a vast (by society standards) some of money flowing to me, and then I consider that I'd then have to actually do something with it, I'd have accounts to manage, and forms to fill in, and endless bureaucratic crap to deal with. And I'd have to come up with ways to spend it, because I don't like the sense of hoarding. It's not for me. Quite honestly, Tolle's homeless period actually sounds closer to my personality type, though also too much hard work in the other direction. In the end, I think we manifest what is most congruent to us, at any one time. Right, large sums of money are only fun if you have an idea of what to do with it, or else it's going to cause you headaches. Also, a point I forgot to mention, if you measure abundance in money only and what money can buy you, that's a very limiting perspective again, because what do you pay for a sunset? What's the listing price for for the smell of fresh ocean air, or the warm feeling of sun on your skin? Making it about money would be limiting the avenues how abundance can come to you. The concept of ownership is another limiting one. Let's take houses. Let's say you like living in a beautiful big house. Now, if you think in terms of ownership and money as the conditions to get what you want, you either need to earn a lot of money to buy one or you need someone you can inherit if from. But if you are not limited by such concepts, your options will increase enormously. Someone who has more houses than they can live in at the same time may invite you to live in one of them for free because they like you and like how you like and appreciate their house, or someone may ask you to watch after their house and live there and even pay you for it while they travel the world for then next 10 years. And if you are not hung up on the ownership idea, and only care about here and now, all three options (owning the house and living there, being a guest and living there, being paid to live there) should be identical, because bottom line: you live there. That's true abundance. |
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Post by Reefs on Jun 26, 2022 22:33:34 GMT -5
It's not personal, it's impersonal. That's the whole point of alignment. It transcends the personal. And by doing so you will have skills and knowledge available you normally wouldn't. Read what I just posted in the other thread on this topic: spiritualteachers.proboards.com/post/485952Alignment with desire is not personal? You seem to be all over the place. You used the concept of alignment and applied it to the fitness exercise of push-ups to build arm muscles. There is nothing impersonal about muscle building. It is a lifestyle routine of western culture not practiced by the rest of the west let alone all mankind. What you have posted in your link to your Alan Watts thread is about “wu wei” (ending of desire) from the Tao Te Ching. What has this got to do with “alignment” as espoused by you? In this day and age, even the Chinese have lost connection to their ancient philosophy. They think like us. They use the same concepts in the practice of spirituality and the use of technology. But they do prefer their own cuisine and abhor our moral ethics. I don't know what Alan Watts was drawing from his western perception of the Tao Te Ching, but I suspect you are dabbling in the beliefs of Taoism. In the East (Southeast Asia, Taiwan, Hong Kong) and among some ethnic Chinese in the West, Taoists have their rituals to draw power through alignment with the Tao. Martial artists have their "chi". It seems to you that way because you have no actual understanding of what personal, impersonal and individual means. |
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Post by Reefs on Jun 26, 2022 22:54:17 GMT -5
"If you want to swim faster, I believe that the most important thing is perfecting your swimming technique. But having strong muscles also helps." That's my perspective as well. That's why technique is where my main focus is, because I think the muscle part of the equation will take care of itself. We don't see dolphins do pushups and stuff to get stronger fins. They just swim and they get stronger fins. Right? So the reason I would do exercises would just be to develop muscles in a more balanced way, for a more balanced body shape, but not in order to pull thru the water faster and with more force. Because in the water, if you want to increase your speed by 5%, you would have to put in almost 100% more effort. And since I mainly do long distance swimming (at least 2km per day) the speed increase has to come from technique. Change my mind.  |
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Post by lolly on Jun 27, 2022 0:18:24 GMT -5
"If you want to swim faster, I believe that the most important thing is perfecting your swimming technique. But having strong muscles also helps." That's my perspective as well. That's why technique is where my main focus is, because I think the muscle part of the equation will take care of itself. We don't see dolphins do pushups and stuff to get stronger fins. They just swim and they get stronger fins. Right? So the reason I would do exercises would just be to develop muscles in a more balanced way, for a more balanced body shape, but not in order to pull thru the water faster and with more force. Because in the water, if you want to increase your speed by 5%, you would have to put in almost 100% more effort. And since I mainly do long distance swimming (at least 2km per day) the speed increase has to come from technique. Change my mind.  Techique is king, and huge muscles, strength and power are not necessary for endurance sport, so you don't make that adaptation. Adding weights means extra recovery, so have you have to decide where your limited energy is best spent to maximise the desired adaptation. A distance swimmer is going to get most out of doing miles in the water and refinement of stroke. The muscles will adapt up to a point and then stay the same. If you want more muscle, then forcing the body into hypertrophy is necessary. You have to lift heavy things, take it close to failure, and maximimise volume (sets x reps x weight = volume) you can realistically recover from with the appropriate rep and set ranges. Progressive overload is increasing that volume incrementally over time by increasing number of total reps and/or the weight. You also need fuel because the body will not gain lean mass unless you take a calorie surplus with high protein. There are many people who hit the gym all the time but don't accrue lean mass because they don't get the calories and protein necessary. Without the nutrition it's like all the bricklayers came to work but someone forgot to order the bricks.
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Post by Reefs on Jun 27, 2022 1:55:52 GMT -5
"If you want to swim faster, I believe that the most important thing is perfecting your swimming technique. But having strong muscles also helps." That's my perspective as well. That's why technique is where my main focus is, because I think the muscle part of the equation will take care of itself. We don't see dolphins do pushups and stuff to get stronger fins. They just swim and they get stronger fins. Right? So the reason I would do exercises would just be to develop muscles in a more balanced way, for a more balanced body shape, but not in order to pull thru the water faster and with more force. Because in the water, if you want to increase your speed by 5%, you would have to put in almost 100% more effort. And since I mainly do long distance swimming (at least 2km per day) the speed increase has to come from technique. Change my mind. Techique is king, and huge muscles, strength and power are not necessary for endurance sport, so you don't make that adaptation. Adding weights means extra recovery, so have you have to decide where your limited energy is best spent to maximise the desired adaptation. A distance swimmer is going to get most out of doing miles in the water and refinement of stroke. The muscles will adapt up to a point and then stay the same.
If you want more muscle, then forcing the body into hypertrophy is necessary. You have to lift heavy things, take it close to failure, and maximimise volume (sets x reps x weight = volume) you can realistically recover from with the appropriate rep and set ranges. Progressive overload is increasing that volume incrementally over time by increasing number of total reps and/or the weight. You also need fuel because the body will not gain lean mass unless you take a calorie surplus with high protein. There are many people who hit the gym all the time but don't accrue lean mass because they don't get the calories and protein necessary. Without the nutrition it's like all the bricklayers came to work but someone forgot to order the bricks.
Right, I'm probably at that point already. That's a good analogy. I am wondering, Lolly, do you take body types into account? |
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Post by sree on Jun 27, 2022 9:55:57 GMT -5
yeah, the concept of 'congruence' again springs to mind. I sometimes toy with the idea of a vast (by society standards) some of money flowing to me, and then I consider that I'd then have to actually do something with it, I'd have accounts to manage, and forms to fill in, and endless bureaucratic crap to deal with. And I'd have to come up with ways to spend it, because I don't like the sense of hoarding. It's not for me. Quite honestly, Tolle's homeless period actually sounds closer to my personality type, though also too much hard work in the other direction. In the end, I think we manifest what is most congruent to us, at any one time. Right, large sums of money are only fun if you have an idea of what to do with it, or else it's going to cause you headaches. Also, a point I forgot to mention, if you measure abundance in money only and what money can buy you, that's a very limiting perspective again, because what do you pay for a sunset? What's the listing price for for the smell of fresh ocean air, or the warm feeling of sun on your skin? Making it about money would be limiting the avenues how abundance can come to you. The concept of ownership is another limiting one. Let's take houses. Let's say you like living in a beautiful big house. Now, if you think in terms of ownership and money as the conditions to get what you want, you either need to earn a lot of money to buy one or you need someone you can inherit if from. But if you are not limited by such concepts, your options will increase enormously. Someone who has more houses than they can live in at the same time may invite you to live in one of them for free because they like you and like how you like and appreciate their house, or someone may ask you to watch after their house and live there and even pay you for it while they travel the world for then next 10 years. And if you are not hung up on the ownership idea, and only care about here and now, all three options (owning the house and living there, being a guest and living there, being paid to live there) should be identical, because bottom line: you live there. That's true abundance.Come on, Reefs; that's not abundance. It's opportunism. It's Charles Manson mentality. Living off someone else's largesse is an abomination to me. But that's me. No doubt, we are all different animals. There are lions that feast on fresh kills and there are hyenas that slink in to eat leftovers and carrion.
We ought to limit ourselves to your concept of living in the limitless possibilities realm: the alignment of our desire with the conviction that we are the most blessed of all creation, that we can end the selfish mess that we are and transform humanity into a complementary part of and consistent with the beauty of Mother Nature.
What do I pay for a sunset? I fly first class to the Bahamas and watch it at the bar of a beach club while sipping a fine whiskey. Another way would be on a yacht leased just for the occasion. I could invite you for a white tablecloth dinner on deck. We would get the chef from the best restaurant in the city to dish up the meal. The sunset would be amazing; especially, with the city skyline at our backs. What do you say?
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Post by Reefs on Jun 27, 2022 11:24:32 GMT -5
What do I pay for a sunset? I fly first class to the Bahamas and watch it at the bar of a beach club while sipping a fine whiskey. Another way would be on a yacht leased just for the occasion. I could invite you for a white tablecloth dinner on deck. We would get the chef from the best restaurant in the city to dish up the meal. The sunset would be amazing; especially, with the city skyline at our backs. What do you say? I say, notice how none of this has anything to do with the actual sunset. It's all about some fixed idea about a perfect sunset experience that you've picked up from somewhere and that you want to recreate. Which means it starts as a mind game and it also ends as a mind game, i.e. you will miss the actual, full immersion sunset experience that you could have under any circumstances, with or without white tablecloth. You focus on totally irrelevant factors. The only relevant factor is your alignment with that moment. That's the secret ingredient for a perfect sunset experience. Being right here, right now in this moment while the sun sets. And when that happens, there will be no room for thoughts about white tablecloths or chefs or fine whiskey. Which means you don't have to go to the best and most expensive part of your town, you can have that same experience, the total immersion in that moment when the sun sets, you can have that same experience from a dumping site in the worst part of your town. |
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Post by sree on Jun 27, 2022 14:04:27 GMT -5
What do I pay for a sunset? I fly first class to the Bahamas and watch it at the bar of a beach club while sipping a fine whiskey. Another way would be on a yacht leased just for the occasion. I could invite you for a white tablecloth dinner on deck. We would get the chef from the best restaurant in the city to dish up the meal. The sunset would be amazing; especially, with the city skyline at our backs. What do you say? I say, notice how none of this has anything to do with the actual sunset. It's all about some fixed idea about a perfect sunset experience that you've picked up from somewhere and that you want to recreate. Which means it starts as a mind game and it also ends as a mind game, i.e. you will miss the actual, full immersion sunset experience that you could have under any circumstances, with or without white tablecloth. You focus on totally irrelevant factors. The only relevant factor is your alignment with that moment. That's the secret ingredient for a perfect sunset experience. Being right here, right now in this moment while the sun sets. And when that happens, there will be no room for thoughts about white tablecloths or chefs or fine whiskey. Which means you don't have to go to the best and most expensive part of your town, you can have that same experience, the total immersion in that moment when the sun sets, you can have that same experience from a dumping site in the worst part of your town. I am always aligned, or should I say, I am aware of misalignment on account of my sensitivity to dissonance. I live in the city which is a human dump. The only way to mitigate the discordance is to stay in the best and most expensive part of town. It is there that the world is nice because paradise on earth comes with a hefty price in terms of US dollars. I am as spiritual as Jesus Christ but not foolish enough to believe that the power of his alignment can turn water into wine.
Krishnamurti wouldn’t have appealed to me if he wasn’t packaged right. He was appalled by the deprivation in India and rightly so. Dumpsite and sunset don’t go together. Poverty and spirituality don’t equate. Even a miserable stray dog knows that. Apparently, one did snap at Mother Theresa when she extended to it her hand of love in the streets of Calcutta. Heaven on earth, to me, must be free of poverty regardless of what Jesus said. If I can live well so must the rest of the world.
If I don’t know what alignment with the moment is, I wouldn’t have been on my horse at the crack of dawn to run him on the track. Or go golfing on green, beautiful fairways with my caddy when no one else was around. And at sea, gazing in the blue magic for hours at a school of fish swimming at the surface like swarms of starlings in the sky. My boat is still moored at a riverine marina offshore Singapore.
On this point, it is not ok to disagree. As the Buddha said, "There is only one truth. No second."
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