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Post by satchitananda on Dec 2, 2019 4:54:17 GMT -5
But I don't have the way to know whether I am hugging the little princess or a figment which appear in my mind. Is it making you feel frustrated that you don't have a way to know whether you are hugging the little princess or a figment? Does it feel like there's something missing, that you need this question answered? If so, why?
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Post by andrew on Dec 2, 2019 4:55:14 GMT -5
yes, in this context. And there is no I/self i.e there is no 'I perceive' So What you are is Brain for you? no, in this context there is no 'you' that could be a brain. At best, this 'you' could be said to be a thought in mind. But as i'm a spiritual dude, I think there's more to life than biology.
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Post by tenka on Dec 2, 2019 4:56:51 GMT -5
Please, don't keep banging on about the outer world, this is your layer cake . Your mixing platforms again .. Do you see that you are pointing to the brain and asking me if I am the brain . If you believe in outer world, then what you are must be your brain or somebody who sits inside the Brain which operates the Brain. Which one you are? I believe that there is only what you are and what you are as an individual exists, be it in the form and make up of a tree or a human being. The brain exists in order for what I am to perceive this world via the mind-body . Fundamentally there is only what we are, so the tree and the brain and your daughter fit in with that equation . Your coming up with a formula that confuses you and you keep on pressing it .. If your not going to address my other posts, I will leave it for now ..
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2019 5:00:47 GMT -5
But I don't have the way to know whether I am hugging the little princess or a figment which appear in my mind. Is it making you feel frustrated that you don't have a way to know whether you are hugging the little princess or a figment? Does it feel like there's something missing, that you need this question answered? If so, why?
Where does your perception come from then? I do not have an answer for you. You are imposing your logically structured world view onto something beyond logic. I can conclude anything from what I know. I simply can't speculate something.
You see there is a perception and you are looking at it. So who is creating it? And also you proclaimed to have known the greater fac that awareness is the only that exist. If so, who is creating other than awareness? What's the problem do you see here? Enigma somehow knows the truth that awareness is creating those perception but he doesn't know how because he is busy looking at those perceptions.
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Post by tenka on Dec 2, 2019 5:01:45 GMT -5
What is it that you have realized yourself to be? CONSCIOUSNESS. Did the word come to you? How so?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2019 5:02:03 GMT -5
So What you are is Brain for you? no, in this context there is no 'you' that could be a brain. At best, this 'you' could be said to be a thought in mind. But as i'm a spiritual dude, I think there's more to life than biology. You are boring me. Changing concept time to time really bores me a lot.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2019 5:03:10 GMT -5
If you believe in outer world, then what you are must be your brain or somebody who sits inside the Brain which operates the Brain. Which one you are? I believe that there is only what you are and what you are as an individual exists, be it in the form and make up of a tree or a human being. The brain exists in order for what I am to perceive this world via the mind-body . Fundamentally there is only what we are, so the tree and the brain and your daughter fit in with that equation . Your coming up with a formula that confuses you and you keep on pressing it .. If your not going to address my other posts, I will leave it for now ..Bye.
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Post by satchitananda on Dec 2, 2019 5:03:42 GMT -5
Is it making you feel frustrated that you don't have a way to know whether you are hugging the little princess or a figment? Does it feel like there's something missing, that you need this question answered? If so, why?
I do not have an answer for you. You are imposing your logically structured world view onto something beyond logic. I can conclude anything from what I know. I simply can't speculate something.
You see there is a perception and you are looking at it. So who is creating it? And also you proclaimed to have known the greater fac that awareness is the only that exist. If so, who is creating other than awareness? What's the problem do you see here? Enigma somehow knows the truth that awareness is creating those perception but he doesn't know how because he is busy looking at those perceptions.
For me there is no problem whatsoever. I just don't have an answer for you.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2019 5:03:57 GMT -5
Did the word come to you? How so? What?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2019 5:04:51 GMT -5
I can conclude anything from what I know. I simply can't speculate something.
You see there is a perception and you are looking at it. So who is creating it? And also you proclaimed to have known the greater fac that awareness is the only that exist. If so, who is creating other than awareness? What's the problem do you see here? Enigma somehow knows the truth that awareness is creating those perception but he doesn't know how because he is busy looking at those perceptions.
For me there is no problem whatsoever. I just don't have an answer for you. You agree there is only awareness, Then who else is creating the perception in your awareness other than awareness?
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Post by satchitananda on Dec 2, 2019 5:07:02 GMT -5
For me there is no problem whatsoever. I just don't have an answer for you. You agree there is only awareness, Then who else is creating the perception in your awareness other than awareness? All I can tell you is that phenomena appears and disappears. I have no questions about creation nor do I seek any answers.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2019 5:07:43 GMT -5
You agree there is only awareness, Then who else is creating the perception in your awareness other than awareness? All I can tell you is that phenomena appears and disappears. I have no questions about creation nor do I seek any answers. If it appears, then it has to be created, yes? otherwise where does it come from?
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Post by tenka on Dec 2, 2019 5:08:36 GMT -5
Did the word come to you? How so? What? How did you know what you know? Did the word consciousness come to you directly somehow .. How do you know that you are consciousness? If you had never heard of the word before are you saying you would still of had a realization of the word consciousness given to you in someway? I have realized what I AM so to speak and not once was there the mention or the thought that I AM consciousness . So I am dying to hear about your consciousness realization.
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Post by satchitananda on Dec 2, 2019 5:09:12 GMT -5
All I can tell you is that phenomena appears and disappears. I have no questions about creation nor do I seek any answers. If it appears, then it has to be created, yes? otherwise where does it come from? Why does it have to be created? Who do you think is the creator?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2019 5:11:14 GMT -5
How did you know what you know? Did the word consciousness come to you directly somehow .. How do you know that you are consciousness? If you had never heard of the word before are you saying you would still of had a realization of the word consciousness given to you in someway? I have realized what I AM so to speak and not once was there the mention or the thought that I AM consciousness . So I am dying to hear about your consciousness realization. I am pointing towards the meaning behind the word consciousness. Everybody does that. Language is the way which is used for communication, every word has the meaning, I am saying I am consciousness because I know what people mean by consciousness.
Or are you asking me how do I know I am consciousness?
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