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Post by krsnaraja on Apr 11, 2017 2:01:40 GMT -5
You remind me of alertpeaceeternal.She was here sometime ago. But disappeared. She acted in this forum kinda strong. Wanted to put any enlightened guy at bay. But we were friends. I do not claim to know/ possess mystic powers. I am here because of my faith and devotion to Christ/Krsna. It's funny, i was just taking a shower and exactly the same thought came into my head. Although her other name ajna came to mind. You don't often pop up in here. I hope you got through that recent storm in the Philippines okay. Most hunches/gut feel I get comes from taking a shower.  |
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Post by krsnaraja on Apr 11, 2017 2:07:00 GMT -5
You remind me of alertpeaceeternal.She was here sometime ago. But disappeared. She acted in this forum kinda strong. Wanted to put any enlightened guy at bay. But we were friends. I do not claim to know/ possess mystic powers. I am here because of my faith and devotion to Christ/Krsna. Raja, I don't 'act' or try to put anyone at bay. I am telling what is. It may be below the radar of many humans. I AM strong, it is noted by many. But that doesn't mean I am not vulnerable. Beautiful human vulnerability (openness of Self) is what I appreciate in humans the most and AM in my physical life. If there is a need for crying - I will cry, and if there is a call for laughter - I will laugh. You do have this vulnerability, and so we are friends. I simply do not share your beliefs and devotion. A username, such as 'alertpeaceeternal tells me she was 'not'. People here are in hiding - from their Selves. Nothing new. I know its you. Because I feel it. Most powerful force in this universe is feeling. Androids/robots/artificial intelligence don`t feel. It`s from this feeling we survive dangers. It is this feeling we become what we are. Without feeling there is no love. It`s only through feeling one can see that which is not seen by the eye. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 2:08:47 GMT -5
Who is this you, that is invincible without the movement of self-identification? Good question. This you to which you refer is me, the individual personal aspect. Without attachment to ego there is no vulnerability, only invincibility, which means no fear. Invincible doesn't mean fearless. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 2:10:59 GMT -5
Good question. This you to which you refer is me, the individual personal aspect. Without attachment to ego there is no vulnerability, only invincibility, which means no fear. Invincible doesn't mean fearless. You're right. It doesn't have to. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 2:12:02 GMT -5
You want to tell yourself that you are not an untruth? No, I don't want to tell myself anything. I know I am not a lie.This I that knows, is that the same I that is not a lie, or a different one? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 2:13:50 GMT -5
Invincible doesn't mean fearless. You're right. It doesn't have to. Ya see I recognise fearlessness, it's kind of empty of any contamination. Invincibility, now that's a movement in the other direction really. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 2:20:33 GMT -5
You're right. It doesn't have to. Ya see I recognise fearlessness, it's kind of empty of any contamination. Invincibility, now that's a movement in the other direction really. I like invincible because it puts to rest any possibility of being overshadowed or disturbed by phenomena. |
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Post by krsnaraja on Apr 11, 2017 2:20:43 GMT -5
I know its you. Because I feel it. Most powerful force in this universe is feeling. Androids/robots/artificial intelligence don`t feel. It`s from this feeling we survive dangers. It is this feeling we become what we are. Without feeling there is no love. It`s only through feeling one can see that which is not seen by the eye. Feeling, yes. But one needs to discern 'feeling' from a thought entangled 'emotion'. They are not the same. I don't know what you mean when you say 'I know its you'.The same self. The same soul I knew when she was alertpeaceeternal. The one they call ape/ajna. |
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Post by krsnaraja on Apr 11, 2017 2:29:17 GMT -5
The same self. The same soul I knew when she was alertpeaceeternal. The one they call ape/ajna. No, I am not her, Raja, you can have my word. Knowing you is like knowing alertpeaceeternal. So, she might as well be you. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 2:31:53 GMT -5
Ya see I recognise fearlessness, it's kind of empty of any contamination. Invincibility, now that's a movement in the other direction really. I like invincible because it puts to rest any possibility of being overshadowed or disturbed by phenomena. And that's exactly why invinciblity isn't fearlessness. Thanks for putting that to rest. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 2:39:10 GMT -5
I like invincible because it puts to rest any possibility of being overshadowed or disturbed by phenomena. And that's exactly why invinciblity isn't fearlessness. Thanks for putting that to rest. You're welcome. |
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Post by krsnaraja on Apr 11, 2017 2:43:13 GMT -5
Knowing you is like knowing alertpeaceeternal. So, she might as well be you. I noted some of her points as very valid, and she certainly had an original Mind. Why is it that I have the feeling that you were alertpeaceeternal? That I even also have this feeling that you and bakk are one and the same person? It`s a possibility. What`s the difference between you and me? What`s the difference between you and bakk? When we are without distinction spirit/souls part and parcel of the supreme spirit/soul. What`s the difference between spirit/soul and the supreme spirit/soul? We only become when we give it a name. What would life be if we exist without names only numbers? We are all the same. What is not the same is the content of our minds/brains. Some are dull. Some are smart. nevertheless, you and I, as spirit/souls are the same. We become different only through the names we are given. And the kind of mentalities we got. |
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Post by krsnaraja on Apr 11, 2017 3:02:58 GMT -5
Why is it that I have the feeling that you were alertpeaceeternal? That I even also have this feeling that you and bakk are one and the same person? It`s a possibility. What`s the difference between you and me? What`s the difference between you and bakk? When we are without distinction spirit/souls part and parcel of the supreme spirit/soul. What`s the difference between spirit/soul and the supreme spirit/soul? We only become when we give it a name. What would life be if we exist without names only numbers? We are all the same. What is not the same is the content of our minds/brains. Some are dull. Some are smart. nevertheless, you and I, as spirit/souls are the same. We become different only through the names we are given. And the kind of mentalities we got. None are born the same. The difference is individual manifestation of energy. I am not Anja. I am not Bakk. If you have any doubts, you could ask moderators to check the IP addresses, it's that easy. There is this feeling in me that you might be bakk/ape/anja and alertpeaceeternal. Why is that? Why do I have this feeling. Although you are all different persons, in different bodies. But why do I feel this way? Maybe it`s because you and bakk, the others are related. That we carry the same genetic make-up. That we are human beings. That we are spirit/souls. As atma/soul, there is no distinction between you and bakk, ape/ajna? So, my feeling is that you and bakk are one yet different. What I feel for both of you. What I feel for bakk/alertpeaceeternal. What I feel for any girl/woman is this feeling I have for you which can not be defined or conceived. This feeling goes way back when we were not yet born. It comes in so many guises i.g. love, care, etc. |
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Post by steven777 on Apr 11, 2017 7:23:26 GMT -5
It took me by surprise too. Correct, there is no intent, and shedding of Gunas (whatever that is) or peeling of onion layers has no direction, aim, goal, will, intent. It just happens. ""The shock or fear of death made me at once introspective, or 'introverted'. I said to myself mentally, i.e., without uttering the words — 'Now, death has come. What does it mean? What is it that is dying? This body dies.' I at once dramatized the scene of death. I extended my limbs and held them rigid as though rigor-mortis had set in. I imitated a corpse to lend an air of reality to my further investigation, I held my breath and kept my mouth closed, pressing the lips tightly together so that no sound might escape. Let not the word 'I' or any other word be uttered! 'Well then,' said I to myself, 'this body is dead." Lol There was intent....intent with wreckless abandon lol While most run from the realization of death, Ramana's first instinct is the instinct of the extreme athlete....to run headlong over the cliff, instead of backing away lol. As an aside....he went immedietly, instinctually into one of the 112 meditation techniques of the Vigyan Bhairav Tantra ;-) One of the reasons that I think Ramana "Went for it" with such wreckless abandon was his age...at age 16 the prefontal cortex, which processes risk, is not developed yet. A perfect storm was created in the birth of Ramana in the same way it was with Michael Phelps the Olympic swimmer. Phelps was born with the right kind of mix of slow twitch and fast twitch muscles fibers, he is very tall but has an elongated torso and shorter limbs....all perfectly suited to fast swimming. But he also has the right mental makeup....so many things coming together to produce that nearly perfect human swimmer. In Ramana's field he too was "born" for what he became...a nearly perfect combination of traits, attributes, and environment to produce a Ramana Its so fascinating and wonderful enough in its own right that we do not need to remove the humaness of him that was still there after this event at age 16...he still had work to do after that event....and he set about it with the same kind of mix of wreckless abandon and dogged pursuit of perfection that a world class extreme athlete does. Notice that I did not say athlete, I said EXTREME athlete...like the guys that go 30 feet in the air on vert ramps, or base jumpers in glider suites etc. |
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Post by maxdprophet on Apr 11, 2017 7:55:29 GMT -5
Did R ever point to any schema he had in mind prior to his death at 16? Was he raised within some framework? What was the mental context for his exploration of death? As near as I can tell, it was simply: Curiosity I think if he were born 20 years ago though he would have been an extreme athlete doing the most dangerous sports with wreckless abandon....because he dove headfirst into his exploration of death with the fearlessness of somebody with no concern whatsoever about self preservation lol You may be right. Apparently he was into sports, especially futbol. He came from a middle class family -- father a 'rural' lawyer and host for guests coming and going, including wandering ascetics. Buildings had images of Siva. He was a notorious deep sleeper, claiming friends could drag him around and beat him and he wouldn't wake up. RM had a premonition of Arunchala and was blown away by the book Periapuranam, the life stories of the sixty-three Tamil Saints. So he must have had some understanding of those stories prior to his death experience. tamilnation.co/sathyam/east/ramana/path_of_self_knowledge.pdf |
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