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Post by zin on Jun 20, 2018 9:16:30 GMT -5
Encountering other realities I
The unknown reality is a variation of the one that you know, so that many of its features are latent rather than predominant in your own private and mass experience. Any encounter with such phenomena will then include a bringing-into-focus of elements that are usually not concentrated upon. Your consciousness must learn to organize itself in more than one fashion – or rather, you must be willing to allow your consciousness to use itself more fully. It is not necessarily a matter of trying to ignore the contents of the world, or to deny your physical perception. Instead, the trick is to view the contents of the world in different fashions, to free your physical senses from the restraints that your mental conventions have placed upon them.
Each particular 'station' of consciousness perceives in a different kind of reality, and as mentioned earlier, you usually tune in to your home station most of the time. If you turn your focus only slightly away, the world appears differently; and if that slightly altered focus were the predominant one, then that is how the world would seem to be. Each aspect of the psyche perceives the reality upon which it is focused, and that reality is also the materialization of a particular state of the psyche projected outward. You can learn to encounter other realities by altering your position within your own psyche. In order to begin, you must first become familiar with the working of your own consciousness as it is directed toward the physical world. You cannot know when you are in focus with another reality if you do not even realize what it feels like to be in full focus with your own. Many people phase in and out of that state without being aware of it, and others are able to keep track of their own 'inner drifting'. Here, simple daydreaming represents a slight shift of awareness out of directly given sense data. If you listen to an FM radio station, there is a handy lock-in gadget that automatically keeps the station in clear focus; it stops the program from 'drifting'. In the same way, when you daydream you drift away from your home station, while still relating to it, generally speaking. You also have the mental equivalent, however, of the FM's lock-in mechanism. On your part this is the result of training, so that if your thoughts or experience stray too far this mental gadget brings them back into line. Usually this is automatic – a learned response that by now appears to be almost instinctive. You must learn to use this mechanism consciously for your own purposes, for it is extremely handy. Many of you do not pay attention to your own experience, subjectively speaking, so you drift in and out of clear focus in this reality, barely realizing it. Often your daily program is not nearly as clear or well-focused as it should be, but full of static; and while this may annoy you, you often put up with it or even become so used to the lack of harmony that you forget what a clear reception is like. However, in this world you are surrounded by familiar objects, details, and ideas, and your main orientation is physical so that you can operate through habit alone even when you are not as well focused within your reality as you should be. When you go traveling off into other systems, however, you cannot depend upon your habits. Indeed, often they can only add to your mental clutter, turning into 'static' – so you must learn first of all what a clear focus is. (session 716) |
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Post by zin on Jun 20, 2018 9:22:16 GMT -5
Encountering other realities II
You will not learn it by trying to escape your own reality, or by attempting to dull your senses. This can only teach you what it means not to focus, and in whatever reality you visit the ability to focus clearly and well is a prerequisite. Once you learn how to really tune in, then you will understand what it means to change the direction of your focus. One of the simplest exercises is hardly an original one, but it is of great benefit:
Practice Element 11
Try to experience all of your present sense data as fully as you can. This tones your entire physical and psychic organism, bringing all of your perceptions together so that your awareness opens fully. Body and mind operate together. You experience an immediate sense of power because your abilities are directed to the fullest of their capacities. In a physical moment you can act directly on the spot, so to speak.
Sit with your eyes open easily, letting your vision take in whatever is before you. Do not strain. On the other hand, do explore the entire field of vision simultaneously. Listen to everything. Identify all the sounds if you can, mentally placing them with the objects to which they correspond even though the objects may be invisible. Sit comfortably but make no great attempt to relax. Instead, feel your body in an alert manner – not in a sleepy distant fashion. Be aware of its pressure against the chair, for example, and of its temperature, of variations: Your hands may be warm and your feet cold, or your belly hot and your head cold. Consciously, then, feel your body's sensations. Is there any taste in your mouth? What odors do you perceive?
Take as much time as you want to with this exercise. It places you in your universe clearly. This is an excellent exercise to use before you begin – and after you finish with – any experiment involving an alteration of consciousness.
Now: Bring all of those sensations together. Try to be aware of all of them at once, so that one adds to the others. If you find yourself being more concerned with one particular perception, then make an attempt to bring the ignored ones to the same clear focus. Let all of them together form a brilliant awareness of the moment.
When you are using this exercise following any experiment with an alteration of consciousness, then end it here and go about your other concerns. You may also utilize it as an initial step that will help you get the feeling of your own inner mobility. To do this proceed as given, and when you have the moment’s perception as clearly as possible, then willfully let it go.
Let the unity disappear as far as your conscious thought is concerned. No longer connect up the sounds you hear with their corresponding objects. Make no attempt to unify vision and hearing. Drop the package, as it were, as a unified group of perceptions. The previous clarity of the moment will have changed into something else. Take one sound if you want to, say of a passing car, and with your eyes closed follow the sound in your mind. Keep your eyes closed. Become aware of whatever perceptions reach you, but this time do not judge or evaluate. Then in a flash open your eyes, alert your body, and try to bring all of your perceptions together again as brilliantly and clearly as possible.
When you have the sense world before you this time, let it climax, so to speak, then again close your eyes and let it fall away. Do not focus. In fact, unfocus.
When you have done this often enough so that you are intimately aware of the contrast, you will have a subjective feeling, a point of knowing within yourself, that will clearly indicate to you how your consciousness feels when it is at its finest point of focus in physical reality.
As you go about your day, try now and then to recapture that point and to bring all data into the clearest possible brilliance. You will find that this practice, continued, will vastly enrich your normal experience. You find it much easier to concentrate, to attend. To attend is to pay attention and take care of. So this exercise will allow you to attend – to focus your awareness to the matters at hand as clearly and vividly as possible. The subjective knowledge of your own point of finest focus will serve as a reference point for many other exercises.
(session 716)
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Post by zin on Jun 20, 2018 9:43:46 GMT -5
I remember reading Seth Speaks, the material seemed inexhaustible. I was highly skeptical. But on a dare, I went to see a famous channel medium in one of the beach communities near LA. The gentleman was channeling someone called Dr. Peebles. At the time I worked near a naval base. It was the height of the Cold War, and all of us at work knew the base would be a primary target in a nuclear exchange. After annoying him with silly questions, I asked him if there would be a nuclear exchange between the super powers. He plainly told me there would not be one, that the USSR, would go through a massive transformation. I even had it on tape, but discarded it before the collapse of the Soviet Union. It still amazes me. I had found Seth Speaks a bit dry or too serious too my taste. If you think of reading one more book I would recommend The Nature of Personal Reality. Here's an online version:
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Post by zin on Jun 20, 2018 9:45:32 GMT -5
Well, that's what the explorer's who go there will be hoping to find.    EXCELLENT!! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2018 11:14:30 GMT -5
I remember reading Seth Speaks, the material seemed inexhaustible. I was highly skeptical. But on a dare, I went to see a famous channel medium in one of the beach communities near LA. The gentleman was channeling someone called Dr. Peebles. At the time I worked near a naval base. It was the height of the Cold War, and all of us at work knew the base would be a primary target in a nuclear exchange. After annoying him with silly questions, I asked him if there would be a nuclear exchange between the super powers. He plainly told me there would not be one, that the USSR, would go through a massive transformation. I even had it on tape, but discarded it before the collapse of the Soviet Union. It still amazes me. I had found Seth Speaks a bit dry or too serious too my taste. If you think of reading one more book I would recommend The Nature of Personal Reality. Here's an online version:
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Post by zin on Jun 20, 2018 11:19:55 GMT -5
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Maybe within 'mastery of thoughts' you include silence, too.. I mean, it is not just visualizing things, is it? And also not just refraining from negativity.. Maybe here what we mean by creation is important. For me it is not a 'manifesting what I want' type of thing (ie wealth, nice atmosphere, etc). For me it is more about what I quoted from Seth material today. I understand it almost literally as creating a 'world'. An environment and maybe possibilities of connections between elements of that environment. But I may sound very very deluded here, I am not sure .. I have not thought or tried anything, this is just the direction my senses are going towards nowadays.
........... Silence, and being both consciously connected to and immursed in our Primordial Nature of pure un-moving consciousness absolutely expands on our power to create as sentient beings. First, it allows a pause so to speak, where one can become aware of and then STOP the habitual movements of mind....there is also a deep fountain of calm resolute strength and power that comes from resting in our deepest most primordial aspect of self from which the I AM and all it’s iterations flow. it can be an end unto itself....but it produces a steady ness that I think the Universe responds to by granting is a bigger portion of volition, creative power, and an expanded vision of everything, including an expanded vision of possibilities. moreover, thoughts seem to in-form manifested reality from the substance of pure thingless conciousness....and as we increase our capacity to maintain bright clear focused thoughts and as we increase our capacity to open up to, be aware of, and reside emerged in that state of pure unmoving consciousness...our ability to form manifestations of experience using our thoughts applied to the raw material of the Universe becomes easier and more affective as we go. its almost like pure consciousness is the clay which our thoughts shape into experiences. certainly becoming aware of the clay helps, as does becoming more adept at using our shaping tools...I.e. thoughts and the more visceral your experience with that pure stuff from which all things come forth the more mastery one gains and seems to be givin in its shaping "there is also a deep fountain of calm resolute strength and power that comes from resting in our deepest most primordial aspect of self from which the I AM and all it’s iterations flow. it can be an end unto itself.... but it produces a steady ness that I think the Universe responds to by granting is a bigger portion of volition, creative power, and an expanded vision of everything, including an expanded vision of possibilities."
I don't know about primordial nature of pure consciousness. I think the closest time I come to samadhi is when I was near to fainting (because of bad news) recently! You may say this is the opposite of samadhi, I am not sure... but I was silently amazed at the receding-back of consciousness - in what seemed to be just a refusal of engaging with the talks of the moment. Just a going back to a more strong foundation - or it seemed so..
And then your words here reminded me of the " trance state" from Seth material in explanations of creation by 'entities'. This is different too, from what you've said, but that it conveys a 'connection' between the creator and the created (and I know such distinctions are not too much meaningful) gives a feeling of steadiness. It's like, *everything* that we see as creation is a part of some 'being' which does not forget what it created.
In a way I am curious about the identity of the creator-s. One *can* say all is happening spontaneously, there is no 'person' etc.. But at the same time maybe people like me (non sr!) tend to see it as a vast network. But I am *not* interested in hierarchies at all, that's for sure.. You are saying "Universe responds by granting..." and I am saying the same thing I think; it responds to one's responsible actions maybe.
"as we increase our capacity to open up to, be aware of, and reside emerged in that state of pure unmoving consciousness... our ability to form manifestations of experience using our thoughts applied to the raw material of the Universe becomes easier"
One interesting thing about "opening up to pure unmoving consciousness" for me is that although I don't meditate etc, I understand that even to just know/learn about *what I am interested in*, what I have tendency towards, I need to be silent for sometime! I guess the rest -what you wrote- follows then. "To form manifestations of experience" is a big thing for me. And here I am just talking about 'concepts', like "vastness". I don't have clear objectives, I don't have clear events-scenes-or any such thing in mind. But I do have a wish for experiencing some aspects of universe through manifestations of certain magnitudes (and I am not sure about what I wrote here).
Again, please don't mind if I write too irrelevantly!
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Post by Reefs on Jun 20, 2018 11:33:12 GMT -5
A-H is short for Abraham-Hicks. That's also channeled material, similar to Seth (or more precisely 'Seth 2'). Are you familiar with Seth's 'moment points' concept? This would explain such predictions far into the future. No not familiar. I can look it up if you're not in the mood to explain. Seth 2 right? A moment point is basically a measurement for how much experience a perceiver can hold in one moment, it's a range of perception, not in terms of frequency but in terms of quantity. You have to see it in the context of what Seth calls 'the spacious present'. |
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Post by Reefs on Jun 20, 2018 11:34:23 GMT -5
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Post by Reefs on Jun 30, 2018 5:32:55 GMT -5
A-H is short for Abraham-Hicks. That's also channeled material, similar to Seth (or more precisely 'Seth 2'). Are you familiar with Seth's 'moment points' concept? This would explain such predictions far into the future. No not familiar. I can look it up if you're not in the mood to explain. Seth 2 right? Here's a quote related to the moment points concept: |
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Post by Reefs on Jun 30, 2018 5:38:37 GMT -5
Basic units of consciousness - CU's
Seth: There are units of consciousness, then, as there are units of matter. I do not want you to think of these units as particles. There is a basic unit of consciousness that, expressed, will not be broken down, as once it was thought that an atom was the smallest unit and could not be broken down. The basic unit of consciousness obviously is not physical. It contains within itself innately infinite properties of expansion, development, and organization; yet within itself always maintains the kernel of its own individuality. Despite whatever organizations it becomes part of, or how it mixes with other such basic units, its own identity is not annihilated.
It is aware energy, identified within itself as itself, not "personified" but awareized. It is therefore the source of all other kinds of consciousness, and the varieties of its activity are infinite. It combines with others of its kind, forming then units of consciousness — as, mentioned often, atoms and molecules combine. This basic unit is endowed with unpredictability. That very unpredictability allows for infinite patterns and fulfillments.
(Session 682)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2018 7:28:02 GMT -5
No not familiar. I can look it up if you're not in the mood to explain. Seth 2 right? Here's a quote related to the moment points concept: I agree with Seth on this. Time is a construct of perception and thought. Interesting. If the rooms exist at once, how does the law of attraction work? |
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Post by Reefs on Jul 1, 2018 5:17:02 GMT -5
All That Is
Seth: All That Is, as the source of all realities and experience, is so psychologically complex, so multidimensionally creative, that it constantly surprises itself. It is, itself, the invisible universe that is everywhere implied within your world, but that becomes manifest to your perception only through historic time. All That Is disperses itself, therefore, so that it is on the one hand "a massive" subjective entity, a psychological structure—and on the other hand, it also disperses itself into the phenomenal world.
It is, in all meanings of the word, divine, yet it disperses even that divinity so that in your terms, each unit of consciousness contains within itself those properties of divinity. All That Is has no one image, but is within all images (whether or not they are manifest). Your thoughts are the invisible partners of your words, and the vast unstated subjectivity of All That Is is in the same way behind all stated or manifest phenomena.
Your position on the scale of awareness inclines you to categorize consciousnesses so that only your own familiar brand seems to fit the definition—so again here I remind you that consciousness is everywhere in the deepest terms, because All That Is disperses itself throughout physical reality. All portions of that reality have their own rights to existence, and purposes within it. So of course do all peoples, and the races.
(Session 917)
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Post by Reefs on Jul 3, 2018 5:56:08 GMT -5
Here's a quote related to the moment points concept: I agree with Seth on this. Time is a construct of perception and thought. Interesting. If the rooms exist at once, how does the law of attraction work? LOA works just fine without the concept of time and space. |
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Post by Reefs on Jul 3, 2018 6:02:18 GMT -5
All That Is
Seth: All That Is, as the source of all realities and experience, is so psychologically complex, so multidimensionally creative, that it constantly surprises itself. It is, itself, the invisible universe that is everywhere implied within your world, but that becomes manifest to your perception only through historic time. All That Is disperses itself, therefore, so that it is on the one hand "a massive" subjective entity, a psychological structure—and on the other hand, it also disperses itself into the phenomenal world. It is, in all meanings of the word, divine, yet it disperses even that divinity so that in your terms, each unit of consciousness contains within itself those properties of divinity. All That Is has no one image, but is within all images (whether or not they are manifest). Your thoughts are the invisible partners of your words, and the vast unstated subjectivity of All That Is is in the same way behind all stated or manifest phenomena. Your position on the scale of awareness inclines you to categorize consciousnesses so that only your own familiar brand seems to fit the definition—so again here I remind you that consciousness is everywhere in the deepest terms, because All That Is disperses itself throughout physical reality. All portions of that reality have their own rights to existence, and purposes within it. So of course do all peoples, and the races. (Session 917) That's an interesting way of expressing this... "implied" and "dispersing" its divinity... having "no image" but being "within all images"... quite the poet our Seth! Also, good point about our position on the scale of awareness. Very true. Darn camouflage! |
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Post by stardustpilgrim on Jul 4, 2018 14:37:19 GMT -5
No not familiar. I can look it up if you're not in the mood to explain. Seth 2 right? Here's a quote related to the moment points concept: This sounds like my second favorite episode of Doctor Who, The Man In The Fireplace. Doctor Who visits the future Madame de Pompadour in the 1700's, who becomes Louis XV's mistress. He visits her, via her fireplace in her room from time to time over the years as she grows up. She notices he doesn't get older as she does. He is on a spaceship of mechanical robots that is "cannibalizing" parts to keep their ship running. They also visit Madame de Pompadour periodically, wanting her brain for ship's control, waiting for it to mature before taking it. Her time passes slowly but the Doctor's time passes quickly, in relation. The Doctor basically falls in love with her, and she with him, and wants to rescue her from the robots, who are her nightmare. Of course he does, and he even thinks it going to be a one-way trip with him being stuck in her time. Very cool, the two different time references, his and hers. Doctor Who, the best TV program of all time...(my favorite episode, Blink [with Sally Sparrow/Carrie Mulligan]). |
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