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Post by billfromtexas on Sept 1, 2016 9:14:47 GMT -5
A POEM CLOSE TO THE END Death is not painful. What hurts is nothingness That life brings to Love. I play na enchanted flute And its music is not heard. It snows in my heart< It´s the grief I carry For failing to be good. SOFT, DUMB AND BLIND Dead, I have chosen to be Soft, dumb and blind. Soft like my hand When it reaches for your hand. Dumb as the heart Of a rock, thousand of years old, Blind as the fish That swims leisurely Deep in the water> I will forget everything, chiefly The hobbling steps I took in my world Divided with a dream. - (Thiago De Mello) www.antoniomiranda.com.br/poesia_ingles/thiago_de_mello.html |
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Post by billfromtexas on Sept 1, 2016 9:26:00 GMT -5
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Post by billfromtexas on Sept 1, 2016 9:32:38 GMT -5
First of all, thank you for taking the bait. You're welcome. I suspected it would be a waste of both of ours time, but I still wanted to maintain some benefit of the doubt, so I figured I'd give it one shot. I'm definitely not a zen-master and you're certainly not my student. It was completely up to you what to do with the riddle, I wasn't coercing you in any way - I simply asked it as I think it is worthwhile and interesting once the correct answer is known. If you didn't want to engage with it, you could've just said it straight away without any need to do any clever manoeuvres. This is not an academic journal. Also, as I remember it, I was calling your behaviour on this forum dïckish (i.e. "being a dïck"), rather than saying that you as a person are a dïckhead. "Rehabilitated"? If you weren't offended, I don't really see why you were asking for an apology. My apology wasn't akin to saying "yeah, sorry, moron", although now that I look at it, it would have been better to use a different expression than "made of sugar" in the following paragraph. But yes, it was a fairly restrained apology. All things considered - for example your own behaviour on this board, e.g. the recent pot shots at Enigma - that seemed to me the most appropriate. I don't actually regret my posts here - you have your defences set so high that a direct unrestrained confrontation was the best way I could think of to try to reach something behind the wall. I'm completely up for my posts or my ideas to be challenged - surely getting delusions or false ideas challenged can be one of the useful functions of a forum like this. For me there's a difference between on one hand trolling by doing random pot shots / imagining junk about someone's personal life / being passive-aggressive / spamming or playing games to gain attention, and on the other harshly criticizing those behaviours - so I don't really see a double standard. But perhaps for you there's no difference. By the way, I don't think we have much of an audience. Surely there are much more worthwhile things going on in this forum than this dialogue. What do you want me to do with this, Visa? Since you stated you're not too interested in having a dialog with me, I refuse to respond, if you're not explizitly tell me you want me to respond to this post of yours. Thanks for the dialog so far anyway. |
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Post by billfromtexas on Sept 1, 2016 9:36:27 GMT -5
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Post by billfromtexas on Sept 1, 2016 9:59:50 GMT -5
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Post by billfromtexas on Sept 1, 2016 10:20:28 GMT -5
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Post by billfromtexas on Sept 1, 2016 10:44:18 GMT -5
and it's not like he had no familiarity with the topics discussed here.. but obviously his unrelenting, quirky, upsetting of sensibilities, against the grain -style- did not conform to forum expectations Wait a second - the problem is not style, but content. Posting several off-topic posts in a row about some stand-up comedians to a thread about a spiritual teacher or some concept of nondualism or whatever unrelated topic is a problem with content. Being abusive, hateful or insulting is a problem with content. Are you saying there, Visa, that posting what you consider off-topic posts is considered a problem with content, just like being abusive, hateful or insulting is a problem with content, and that Anja/me/Bill's "off-topic" posts are seen as "being abusive, hateful or insulting" therfore? Just asking. Please 'splain to I and I if that is what it implies what you are saying here. Thanks in advance. |
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Post by billfromtexas on Sept 1, 2016 10:49:23 GMT -5
As far as "hateful, insulting, derailing threads" - this is where I see the jester exaggerating what's already going on. Those three things have been happening at STF for a long time, but mostly kept juuuust under the bar of ban-worthy. I wasn't thinking "kids say the darnest things", more like "This tree's getting shook, I wonder what will fall out". Okay, but by that token every dīckhead, racist, sexist or hateful, violent or abusive person is doing a great service for others since the traits they portray are already present in everyone who lives under the illusion of separate personhood to some (lesser) extent, and so they are showing us something about ourselves. I'm familiar with this line of reasoning, but in general I still don't see any reason to encourage dīckhead-behaviour. (Moreover, I think it's only valuable in so far as it generates insight, and in Anja's case I think there has been very little of that.) Are you calling me here, "d!ckhead, racist, sexist or hateful, violent or abusive person" or are you merely calling my content as "encouraging in d!ckhead-behaviour". Why would calling my actions here "d!ckhead-behaviour" be less insulting? I'm not insulted. Just curious. |
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Post by billfromtexas on Sept 1, 2016 10:56:06 GMT -5
I assume you're not calling Anja/Billfromtexas a "penishead, racist, sexist or hateful, violent or abusive person" here? I wonder what are you trying to accomplish with elusive and vacuous insinuations. Why not talk your mind straight to the point? Do you have a point? Ahhhh....I see! You did call my behaviour "d!ckhead-behaviour" (aka "being a d!!ck"). I guess that answered my former posts question to you. So...no reasion to explain it further. Edit: IOW, you call me out on my "d!!ckhead-behaviour" by calling me a "d!!ckhead". Am I getting that right? |
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Post by billfromtexas on Sept 1, 2016 11:10:50 GMT -5
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Post by billfromtexas on Sept 1, 2016 11:18:41 GMT -5
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Post by billfromtexas on Sept 1, 2016 11:26:29 GMT -5
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Post by billfromtexas on Sept 1, 2016 11:35:38 GMT -5
Poo-Pa-Peng and Hui Heng
walked along a tiny path
in some forrest.
Poo-Pa-Peng said to Hui Heng,
"when I hit you now
and nobody can see it
and I tell everybody you hit me
and I know more people than you do
Who hit whom?"
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Post by billfromtexas on Sept 1, 2016 11:39:21 GMT -5
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Post by billfromtexas on Sept 1, 2016 11:45:36 GMT -5
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