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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 4:05:57 GMT -5
When he says existence, he is pointing out the ultimate awareness in which everything appear and disappears. If he thinks that's meaningless abstraction he hasn't heard what his teachers have been trying to say. You are a scholar now? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 4:08:11 GMT -5
We cannot avoid dualism. Dualism is the Maya shakti. It is also Brahman. Peace is the light of Brahman (consciousness). Know you are that and you are at peace. Yes, not a problem here, but problem comes in only when you define peace as a kind of feeling. Peace is consciousness which illuminates the mind and senses. Tell me why peace is therefore not experienced in the mind and body. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 4:08:17 GMT -5
This is where the real problem comes in. Our wanting to have some kind of feeling pushes us to it's opposite sooner or later, but surely it does. The search for peace and happiness is a recognition of what already lies within. The next step is to realize that what is changing cannot be what you are. We must connect with the unchanging to discover peace. You don't have to connect with unchanging, unchanging is what you are! Why do you need to connect with yourself? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 4:09:01 GMT -5
Hence why equanimity and Peace are so rare, and why the roller coaster is so popular. Refer to my previous reply to gopal. He says that he is in peace, If so why are you raising this question? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 4:09:58 GMT -5
I've never ever heard that wanting to feel good is not good. There's a first time for everything, eh? Even I know Buddhism teaches about the problem of craving and desire. I am not talking about craving. I am talking about the search for peace. First we have to recognise what craving is. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 4:10:52 GMT -5
We want to feel happiness and avoid suffering because we are already complete. There is nothing to attain except to remove the veil of ignorance to reveal what is always there, the light of consciousness which is itself nothing other than peace. So called conditional peace is when we see just a glimpse of absolute reality. When it is realized in totality, it shines forth always. That's what makes it unconditional. There is only one Peace. No, that's not why. That's why we have to keep coming back to it until hopefully you understand. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 4:12:50 GMT -5
Having feelings is not a problem. Feelings are also Brahman. Yes, having feelings is not a problem, but wanting to feel certain feelings are problematic. No one wants to have certain feelings, only one feeling which is happiness, but we make the mistake in thinking it comes from objects. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 4:14:15 GMT -5
Yes, it misses the point of freedom. There is no point to freedom. It just is. It is your natural state. If your realization doesn't affect your experience, then that's useless. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 4:15:01 GMT -5
Yes, not a problem here, but problem comes in only when you define peace as a kind of feeling. Peace is consciousness which illuminates the mind and senses. Tell me why peace is therefore not experienced in the mind and body. If your consciousness has realized peace, then it doesn't create suffering for you but it need not to create the peace feeling for you. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 4:16:53 GMT -5
Yes, having feelings is not a problem, but wanting to feel certain feelings are problematic. No one wants to have certain feelings, only one feeling which is happiness, but we make the mistake in thinking it comes from objects. If you can FEEL some kind of feeling, you would experience it's own opposite which are mutually defining polarity. That's what I know what's not peace. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 4:19:25 GMT -5
If you know what is not peace, then are you qualified to talk about what is peace? Yes, I might not be, but I am qualified to say what's not peace, So I am saying to you that what you are talking is not a peace. You mean like saying I know what quantum physics isn't, so therefore I know you don't know about quantum physics. Does that seem logical to you? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 4:20:17 GMT -5
The search for peace and happiness is a recognition of what already lies within. The next step is to realize that what is changing cannot be what you are. We must connect with the unchanging to discover peace. You don't have to connect with unchanging, unchanging is what you are! Why do you need to connect with yourself? To remove the veil of ignorance. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 4:21:44 GMT -5
Yes, I might not be, but I am qualified to say what's not peace, So I am saying to you that what you are talking is not a peace. You mean like saying I know what quantum physics isn't, so therefore I know you don't know about quantum physics. Does that seem logical to you? This comparison is nonsense, this can't be compared this way. I know how conceptual peace would turn out. I know the meaning of conceptual peace, So I am saying that you are experiencing conceptual peace. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 4:22:10 GMT -5
You don't have to connect with unchanging, unchanging is what you are! Why do you need to connect with yourself? To remove the veil of ignorance. you can't connect with you. You are you! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 4:22:28 GMT -5
No one wants to have certain feelings, only one feeling which is happiness, but we make the mistake in thinking it comes from objects. If you can FEEL some kind of feeling, you would experience it's own opposite which are mutually defining polarity. That's what I know what's not peace. If peace wasn't experienced how would you know there was such a thing. |
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