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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 4:23:26 GMT -5
If you can FEEL some kind of feeling, you would experience it's own opposite which are mutually defining polarity. That's what I know what's not peace. If peace wasn't experienced how would you know there was such a thing. That's what I am keep repeating that peace is the absence of suffering, Can't you know whether you are suffering or not? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 4:23:43 GMT -5
To remove the veil of ignorance. you can't connect with you. You are you! Anyone can say that as a philosophical statement. That's not the same as living it. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 4:24:59 GMT -5
There is no point to freedom. It just is. It is your natural state. If your realization doesn't affect your experience, then that's useless. If you don't experience peace it too is useless. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 4:25:43 GMT -5
Refer to my previous reply to gopal. He says that he is in peace, If so why are you raising this question? He didn't say that. He just disagreed with what I said. |
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Post by laughter on Sept 7, 2016 4:27:15 GMT -5
When the going within/without is done there's no longer any persistent illusion of inner/outer, and this isn't transitory. Refraining from promulgating endless and pointless dialog by attaching to a particular use of a word avoids the appearance of this.  Yeah, when it's done by all means refrain. I'm talking to those who aren't done. As you were the one attached to the wording you might want to seriously question just who it is you're trying to convince of that here. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 4:27:43 GMT -5
you can't connect with you. You are you! Anyone can say that as a philosophical statement. That's not the same as living it. This is not a philosophical statement man, This is the simple observation, How can you connect with you? Why do you need to connect with yourself? If you say you have higher self, then at least you can say that you need to listen to your higher self, but we both know that no such thing exist. If that was the case, why do you need to connect with yourself? Do you understand the invalidity behind your statement? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 4:27:59 GMT -5
Peace is consciousness which illuminates the mind and senses. Tell me why peace is therefore not experienced in the mind and body. If your consciousness has realized peace, then it doesn't create suffering for you but it need not to create the peace feeling for you. If peace is realized who is the knower of it? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 4:28:26 GMT -5
No one wants to have certain feelings, only one feeling which is happiness, but we make the mistake in thinking it comes from objects. If you can FEEL some kind of feeling, you would experience it's own opposite which are mutually defining polarity. That's what I know what's not peace. How is peace known? |
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Post by laughter on Sept 7, 2016 4:29:35 GMT -5
Yes, it misses the point of freedom. There is no point to freedom. It just is. It is your natural state. More wordplay. Freedom in this case doesn't refer to any meaning that the intellect can grasp. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 4:29:49 GMT -5
You mean like saying I know what quantum physics isn't, so therefore I know you don't know about quantum physics. Does that seem logical to you? This comparison is nonsense, this can't be compared this way. I know how conceptual peace would turn out. I know the meaning of conceptual peace, So I am saying that you are experiencing conceptual peace. The meaning of conceptual peace is just an idea in your own mind. No one else can understand it. Only you. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 4:31:00 GMT -5
If peace wasn't experienced how would you know there was such a thing. That's what I am keep repeating that peace is the absence of suffering, Can't you know whether you are suffering or not? What is the experience of the absence of a banana? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 4:32:07 GMT -5
If your consciousness has realized peace, then it doesn't create suffering for you but it need not to create the peace feeling for you. If peace is realized who is the knower of it? Who else is there other than you? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 4:32:24 GMT -5
Yeah, when it's done by all means refrain. I'm talking to those who aren't done. As you were the one attached to the wording you might want to seriously question just who it is you're trying to convince of that here. Without wording how is it possible to communicate? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 4:34:02 GMT -5
Anyone can say that as a philosophical statement. That's not the same as living it. This is not a philosophical statement man, This is the simple observation, How can you connect with you? Why do you need to connect with yourself? If you say you have higher self, then at least you can say that you need to listen to your higher self, but we both know that no such thing exist. If that was the case, why do you need to connect with yourself? Do you understand the invalidity behind your statement? I understand the invalidity of your statement because I have not mentioned a higher self. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 4:34:29 GMT -5
If your realization doesn't affect your experience, then that's useless. If you don't experience peace it too is useless. I said I am not experiencing the peace which Enigma has been talking about because he says peace is absence of suffering, but in my case, my unhappiness rollercoaster often enter into frustration. And also he is saying when you find peace, you would find impersonal Love as well because he is considering peace as Love. |
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