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Post by andrew on Jul 18, 2016 3:22:17 GMT -5
He is saying that he was not born i.e he is prior to appearances. But then in the next sentence he will say that his consciousness is an individual one. He's put 2 contexts together and you are chasing him round the room but will never catch him hehehe. It's quite funny to watch. And that's why no-one in their right mind can take his theories seriously .. He doesn't know he was born lol as an individual . The thing is I don't for a second believe he believes that himself . There is far too much invested in his theory on the forums . it is G mans religion . He is prepared to save his own religion over the realness of his parents .. shakes head .. To say that he wasn't born isn't a problem to me, it's a typical non-dual statement, it's fine. In that instance, gopal and his parents would all be equally appearance, equally real, equally imaginary etc. The problem that I see is that g-man marries the individual point of perception with the 'I' that is not born. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 3:25:21 GMT -5
If you keep basing your life experience on if's your likened to be never get a nibble of the dangling carrot . Lets stick to the facts that can be verified just for a minute . You were born unto your mother . Go check the facts, there is no if's about that . The fact that you have a voice in this world as G man cannot take place if your mother wasn't real . You have to understand that fact . Your theory that you are real and perhaps your mother is not is flawed at the core . If you are under the illusion that you were perhaps never born unto your mother as you are the only real individual then there really is no hope for ... Do you have memories as a child? Ok, I give up. Bit like i don't know, me thinks Gopal... "If" you don't know, looking-up a womans skirt may frighten you at first but finding out where you came into the big picture is important. (Don't look up your Mothers skirt lad) No-woman is going to permit you to enter deeply into this matter; Death is a Grave Issue. Everyone that reads your texts knows you must've been born as you have the fingers on both hands to prove it. Consciousness was already here before your Mother copulated (willingly or unwillingly)with the Milk man or your Father. Where were you THEN? If you weren't watching their goings-on you may have been distracted on another plane of Existance sure, but some of us were awaiting the bouncing about to lessen so that we could enter the world the REAL-way, not by immaculate conception like your Jesus. |
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Post by tenka on Jul 18, 2016 3:26:53 GMT -5
There are too many if's for my liking . The theory is built upon only 'if's ... If my parent's are real, if I was born, if this, if that .. etc, etc .. |
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Post by tenka on Jul 18, 2016 3:29:13 GMT -5
You missed the point as why I used mash potatoes as a point .. I can eat mash with lumps in without whining .. Then why can't you discuss on the forum without whining? Maybe just pretend we're serving lumpy mashed potatoes? I didn't know how it was possible, butt hey ho .. these things happen .. My example given was to emphasise that I can discuss things, and point things out without whining .. Are you promoting mash potato by any chance? |
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Post by laughter on Jul 18, 2016 3:29:57 GMT -5
We already did that a few weeks ago, and my guess is that you remember that just fine.  I was conscious of presenting you with a double bind here, were you conscious of the double bind you attempted to concoct here? (I can do this all night  ) NOT at all. When you laid it on-me I haven't yet heard your explanation about what D/B might mean. I am so GLAD you can do this, as then you will be helping me at last. Perhaps one day I may even be able to reciprocate in the far-away future or the here-now. Now you're out and out lying because if you didn't recognize the structure you wouldn't have made mention of it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 3:30:48 GMT -5
Perhaps english isn't your best language. Some folk can speak several languages... they must be really Intelligent. Yes I am not intelligent, correct. Thank you; neither am I. Yet both of us are NOT stupid and each have access to a tiny spark of intelligence within our pockets, even when we are NOT wearing clothing. Placing our lives on the line, we both get to speak with the Others Intelligence. NOT being real dosen't permit this to be the case, Wrong? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 3:33:34 GMT -5
NOT at all. When you laid it on-me I haven't yet heard your explanation about what D/B might mean. I am so GLAD you can do this, as then you will be helping me at last. Perhaps one day I may even be able to reciprocate in the far-away future or the here-now. Now you're out and out lying because if you didn't recognize the structure you wouldn't have made mention of it. As I didn't understand D/B at the time, I was awaiting you to explain it to me way-back but you GOT distracted. As to lying, is that an easy thing to do; Can it be Taught? |
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Post by tenka on Jul 18, 2016 3:34:03 GMT -5
If you keep basing your life experience on if's your likened to be never get a nibble of the dangling carrot . Lets stick to the facts that can be verified just for a minute . You were born unto your mother . Go check the facts, there is no if's about that . The fact that you have a voice in this world as G man cannot take place if your mother wasn't real . You have to understand that fact . Your theory that you are real and perhaps your mother is not is flawed at the core . If you are under the illusion that you were perhaps never born unto your mother as you are the only real individual then there really is no hope for ... Do you have memories as a child? Ok, I give up. That's why your theories don't hold up because you can't relate to how your theories work in actuality .. Again your throwing in the towel for the umpteenth time .. why do you hold onto a belief system that you can't sustain / uphold? |
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Post by laughter on Jul 18, 2016 3:34:46 GMT -5
We already did that a few weeks ago, and my guess is that you remember that just fine. I was conscious of presenting you with a double bind here, were you conscious of the double bind you attempted to concoct here? (I can do this all night )  Yes if you're sleepwalking through life unconsciously then a simple question about whether you're conscious or not might seem like quite the feat of flexibility and strength. |
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Post by laughter on Jul 18, 2016 3:38:31 GMT -5
If you keep basing your life experience on if's your likened to be never get a nibble of the dangling carrot . Lets stick to the facts that can be verified just for a minute . You were born unto your mother . Go check the facts, there is no if's about that . The fact that you have a voice in this world as G man cannot take place if your mother wasn't real . You have to understand that fact . Your theory that you are real and perhaps your mother is not is flawed at the core . If you are under the illusion that you were perhaps never born unto your mother as you are the only real individual then there really is no hope for ... Do you have memories as a child? Ok, I give up. "heh heh if you can't remember that you were born how will you remember that you gave up tomorrow? heh heh" |
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Post by tenka on Jul 18, 2016 3:38:34 GMT -5
And that's why no-one in their right mind can take his theories seriously .. He doesn't know he was born lol as an individual . The thing is I don't for a second believe he believes that himself . There is far too much invested in his theory on the forums . it is G mans religion . He is prepared to save his own religion over the realness of his parents .. shakes head .. , it's fine. In that instance, gopal and his parents would all be equally appearance, equally real, equally imaginary etc.
The problem that I see is that g-man marries the individual point of perception with the 'I' that is not born. Well yes, his parents have to be equally real or equally illusory . A peep that can only say he is real and perhaps his parents are not creates a muddled perception .. I find it slightly troubling that one cannot verify that he was brought into this world via physical birth .. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 3:39:30 GMT -5
Yes if you're sleepwalking through life unconsciously then a simple question about whether you're conscious or not might seem like quite the feat of flexibility and strength. Change this slightly, like... Yes, when I am sleepwalking...etc may awaken you? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 3:40:15 GMT -5
It's interesting how some accuse you of being repetitive rather than acknowledging the significance of knowing there is only THIS. It's the doorway to Self that peeps are continually being dragged away from by Mr Mind. Source is repetitive, for his own reasons. Thinking that he's offering a guided tour of THIS is a noble idea. Correct. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 3:41:37 GMT -5
Yes I am not intelligent, correct. Thank you; neither am I. Yet both of us are NOT stupid and each have access to a tiny spark of intelligence within our pockets, even when we are NOT wearing clothing. Placing our lives on the line, we both get to speak with the Others Intelligence. NOT being real dosen't permit this to be the case,Wrong? I said that I can't know whether other individual is real or figment. I did not say other individuals are figments. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 3:43:15 GMT -5
That's why your theories don't hold up because you can't relate to how your theories work in actuality .. Again your throwing in the towel for the umpteenth time .. why do you hold onto a belief system that you can't sustain / uphold? I have seen the future, I have seen that I have explained infinite times and you have shown your ignorance all the time So I gave up. You are the best friend of Source. |
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