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Post by laughter on Feb 12, 2015 23:27:35 GMT -5
Well whatever it's a lump of it was stardust at some point, right?? That was pooped out by a star having an intense day
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Post by laughter on Feb 12, 2015 23:31:36 GMT -5
Don't mess with goofy man, he's got a mean left hook. But that would never happen to Bambi. ahhhh ... yer cuein' up the classics ...
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Post by enigma on Feb 13, 2015 1:20:00 GMT -5
But that would never happen to Bambi. ahhhh ... yer cuein' up the classics ... That's just wrong! (Did I say that the last time?)
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Post by tzujanli on Feb 13, 2015 6:02:45 GMT -5
Thanks. ...........Yea, I was a little stumped as how to respond. This morning it came to me. I would tell amit that I didn't mean to deny his experience. (I didn't perceive it as an attack, BTW. I perceived that he felt I had attacked him, which wasn't my intention. .........Yea, I was exploring the issue). Sometimes we turn into hammers, and everything starts looking like a nail. You must be a Pete Seeger fan..
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Post by zin on Feb 14, 2015 6:43:06 GMT -5
Yes I have lived similar things to the ones you've mentioned in the 2nd paragraph and I've noticed the betterness of expanded awareness. All I am saying is that I forgot this the next day. Sort of, my organism forgot it. (This is also a reply to my "I am just stuck at the problem about habits." and your "I'm not sure I know what you mean." in another post.) Okay. The way I might say it is you chose to ignore it the next day, and this is where self honesty, sincerity and willingness come in. Your own experience is showing you evidence that you are being lived, and that your sense of control is an illusion that makes you more vulnerable, but you persist in the illusion. It isn't about habit. Habits are weak and we use them in a mind game of pretending to lose control of our imagined control so that we can get what we want. I was thinking, "what does being lived mean?" (later I read about it in this thread). I think I am not aware of a 'choosing', a daily choosing. Usually expanded awareness happens by itself in Nature or in some calm times. Otherwise it is ignored (but what ignores? you are not going to say 'mind', right?) or forgotten. And I remember the idea of it when I fall into big worries, I say something like "that awareness was good!", but then I feel too much spent out to be aware. Do you say 'feeling too much spent out for this' is a mind trick?
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Post by enigma on Feb 14, 2015 11:46:14 GMT -5
Okay. The way I might say it is you chose to ignore it the next day, and this is where self honesty, sincerity and willingness come in. Your own experience is showing you evidence that you are being lived, and that your sense of control is an illusion that makes you more vulnerable, but you persist in the illusion. It isn't about habit. Habits are weak and we use them in a mind game of pretending to lose control of our imagined control so that we can get what we want. I was thinking, "what does being lived mean?" (later I read about it in this thread). I think I am not aware of a 'choosing', a daily choosing. Usually expanded awareness happens by itself in Nature or in some calm times. Otherwise it is ignored (but what ignores? you are not going to say 'mind', right?) or forgotten. And I remember the idea of it when I fall into big worries, I say something like "that awareness was good!", but then I feel too much spent out to be aware. Do you say 'feeling too much spent out for this' is a mind trick? Well, it implies that being aware is an effort you don't always feel you can sustain. The effort is in the contraction of awareness, in the thinking. Expanded awareness is your natural, effortless state.
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Post by anja on Jun 27, 2016 19:09:17 GMT -5
The key to being present is to understand why we are not, and see if that reason is justified. If it can be seen that it is not, presence is the effortless, spontaneous result. What folks invariably believe is that vigilance and caution are needed in order to be safe, and this requires mind in it's capacity to project scenarios and devise strategies and mount defenses, all of which involve past/future thinking and run counter to the focus on the present moment. Consequently, we may reserve a period of time each day when we know we are safe enough to be present, and when it's over we go back to our regularly scheduled lives. I suggest that a vigilant mind is far less effective at protecting you than remaining present, which is to say remaining empty, open, alert and without engaging a thinking process. The reason for this is that thinking is a contraction of awareness while presence is an expansion of awareness. Shifting that tunnel-vision-like attention around rapidly is an attempt to analyze our experience sequentially rather than expand awareness to include all our senses and knowledge of our environment at once. The belief that this constricted mental focus is necessary is the consequence of identifying mind as the source of awareness rather than a tool for awareness, and that false belief results in the experience that the belief is true. Mind notices that when it is not sufficiently attentive, that mistakes are made, and so it naturally concludes that it must be more attentive, and also concludes that being present is counter to that attention. What's actually happening is that mind becomes distracted from it's own distraction; lost in thought about something other than it's self designated task as vigilant protector of the body/mind. And so, if you're going to test to see if presence can do a better job of protecting you than your mind, you must actually be present. In that empty, open alertness, all of your senses and knowledge, plus your insight and intuition, is fully available to you. Pay attention and you will see that you are being taken care of. The painter of the pictures will catch you if you fall. Of what exactly, Nigma?
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