Movies

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Jan 22, 2014 1:46:51 GMT -5 duderino said:

gave it a shot, couldn't make it through the whole thing 

It's an ok movie. At least watch the ending.

[andrew]

I watched 'The Spectacular Now' last night, I liked it, I wasn't bowled over, but still....enjoyed it. 'Perks of Being a Wallflower' is a similar kind of thing. If you liked 'Spectacular Now', again I recommend 'Perks'. I am quite drawn to good films that feature young adults. I think its a very interesting part of our development....moving on from school into a brand new chapter of our lives, often accompanied by a sense of hope and freedom. 'Dazed and Confused' is a film I have watched several times over the years. One reason I liked that one so much because it's not a film that has anything special or particularly dramatic going on in it...its more of a 'snapshot' kind of film.

I hardly saw any movies between 2007-2013, but I started catching up with some about 2 months ago. I like reading people's recommendations on www.imdb.com. One thing I have noticed on there is that there seems to have been a bit of a popular movement towards more independent type movies in the last few years, the big expensive Hollywood films don't seem to be the ones that are being raved about (there are exceptions of course). Might just be the reviewers on that website though.

My wife liked 'Cloud Atlas' a lot, which has a spiritual leaning, it was too heavy going for me, but it moved something in her.

[charliegee]

The Iceman is about a Mafia contract killer who pretty much hates everything and everybody except his family. This would be an anti-spiritual movie that teaches love by showing extreme violence and ruthlessness. It is more a case study on violence and the dichotomy of being a cold-hearted killer who goes home to his lovely wife and daughters when his business is done. It is a dark and brooding piece and the score compliments it perfectly. Not for the faint of heart, there is a certain amount of brutality. It points to love and spirituality by not pointing to it. It left me shaken and mentally bruised. Having said that, I haven't seen a better meditation on human evil in quite some time.

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Jan 22, 2014 9:02:43 GMT -5 andrew said:

I watched 'The Spectacular Now' last night, I liked it, I wasn't bowled over, but still....enjoyed it. 'Perks of Being a Wallflower' is a similar kind of thing. If you liked 'Spectacular Now', again I recommend 'Perks'. I am quite drawn to good films that feature young adults. I think its a very interesting part of our development....moving on from school into a brand new chapter of our lives, often accompanied by a sense of hope and freedom. 'Dazed and Confused' is a film I have watched several times over the years. One reason I liked that one so much because it's not a film that has anything special or particularly dramatic going on in it...its more of a 'snapshot' kind of film.

Oh my god, I love D&C. It's one of those movies that I know by heart. Milla Jovovic is in it, and the Slater character that I really like.



But I have to disagree about movies about young adults. I think mostly they are movies about "look at me I have problems". I say everyone has problems, I have enough problems of my own, entertain me or gtfo. Young people don't have depth, how much can you possibly know ehen you're 20 y/o? What can you tell me that I haven't heard before a million times? You tihnk you have problems, no you don't have problems, don't annoy me with your egoic issues. I want to see real problems in the movie, like how to stop an alien race from invading earth, now that's a real problem.



Another all-time favourite of mine:
Sneakers

[silence]

[andrew]

Jan 22, 2014 10:00:34 GMT -5 ???????? ???????????? said:

Jan 22, 2014 9:02:43 GMT -5 andrew said:

I watched 'The Spectacular Now' last night, I liked it, I wasn't bowled over, but still....enjoyed it. 'Perks of Being a Wallflower' is a similar kind of thing. If you liked 'Spectacular Now', again I recommend 'Perks'. I am quite drawn to good films that feature young adults. I think its a very interesting part of our development....moving on from school into a brand new chapter of our lives, often accompanied by a sense of hope and freedom. 'Dazed and Confused' is a film I have watched several times over the years. One reason I liked that one so much because it's not a film that has anything special or particularly dramatic going on in it...its more of a 'snapshot' kind of film.

Oh my god, I love D&C. It's one of those movies that I know by heart. Milla Jovovic is in it, and the Slater character that I really like.



But I have to disagree about movies about young adults. I think mostly they are movies about "look at me I have problems". I say everyone has problems, I have enough problems of my own, entertain me or gtfo. Young people don't have depth, how much can you possibly know ehen you're 20 y/o? What can you tell me that I haven't heard before a million times? You tihnk you have problems, no you don't have problems, don't annoy me with your egoic issues. I want to see real problems in the movie, like how to stop an alien race from invading earth, now that's a real problem.



Another all-time favourite of mine:
Sneakers

LOL! Slater, yeah he's brilliant. I also really like Wooderson, which is odd because when I was that age I would not have liked him. And the character that Adam Goldberg plays tickles me a lot.

''Alright, Alright, Alright''



I get what you are saying, and I liked a lot of the films on your list. I saw ''Gravity'' recently and it held my attention pretty much throughout (which is basically my definition of a good movie lol). I don't really watch violent movies these days but I made an exception for ''Django Unchained'' because I used to like Tarantino movies, and I'm glad I made the exception.

I don't know why, but ''Sideways'' also just popped into my head as a movie I liked a lot, and have watched more than once. Again, more a 'petty ego' problem film than solving a 'real problem' film though.

Haven't seen 'Sneakers', will put it on the list.

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Jan 22, 2014 10:52:31 GMT -5 andrew said:

LOL! Slater, yeah he's brilliant. I also really like Wooderson, which is odd because when I was that age I would not have liked him. And the character that Adam Goldberg plays tickles me a lot.

''Alright, Alright, Alright''



I get what you are saying, and I liked a lot of the films on your list. I saw ''Gravity'' recently and it held my attention pretty much throughout (which is basically my definition of a good movie lol). I don't really watch violent movies these days but I made an exception for ''Django Unchained'' because I used to like Tarantino movies, and I'm glad I made the exception.

I don't know why, but ''Sideways'' also just popped into my head as a movie I liked a lot, and have watched more than once. Again, more a 'petty ego' problem film than solving a 'real problem' film though.

Haven't seen 'Sneakers', will put it on the list.

You like Wooderson? I hated him. He is such a loser. I also hated Goldberg and Anthony Rapp because they are so pathetic, I hate Rapp the most in the entire movie, probably because he reminded me a little bit of my myself when I was that age. I really liked Ben Affleck. I felt sorry for the black guy.

I have problems with Tarantino. I haven't seen Django yet. My favourite movies of him is Jackie Brown by far, then Pulp Fiction, Reservoir Dogs is still okay, Inglorious Basterds so so, the rest is crap imo, too artsy fartsy and he keeps repeating himself. Problem with him is that he is too much of a smartáss, I don't like meta-commentary in the movies, if you make a movie don't make it some dissertation about whatever. I don't want to think, I want to be surprised but I don't want to solve some stupid riddles about movie-history... in his movies he is too prominent, like he is saying look at me I'm Tarantino the genius director, for example his cameo on Pulp Fiction was terrible, an unforgiving mistake, pure ego. The point is I don't want to know what the director thinks/feels about whatever, I just want to be entertained, and with Tarantino movies there is too much Tarantino. That's the difference to a movie like Gravity, because Gravity is a dead serious movie, the director disappears and just makes a great entertaining movie. For example I have no idea who the direcotr of gravity is, but it's a great movie. I ask a friend "hey, have you seen gravity"? But with a Tarantino movie it's different, because I ask "hey, have you seen the latest Tarantino movie"? That's the difference.

I also disagree about Sideways. It's not similar to a teenager movie "look at me I am so sad, I have problem". First point is that Paul Giamatti and Thomas Haden Church are really great actors and a lot of fun to watch, Paul Giamatti is a genius actor I watch every movie from him, also like Seymour Hofmann, great actors. The point with Sideways is that their problems is not the topic of the movie, the movie isn't trying to educate anyone, it's just two fun guys having adventures, they are not trying to teach you a lesson. From Thomas Church I've also seen "Don McKay" and it was a good movie.

You know who else is great? Woody Harrelson. Whatever he does, I want to see it. Bill Murray is also immortal. And then those two together, like in Kingpin... oh my god!

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K PAX even though it has violence in it and i would not rate it high anymore, used to be a favourite of me

Fight Club, same thing..i´ d hate it now, still, Marla Singer is my Alltime favorite movie character(helena bonham carter..)

2001 a space odyssey alltime favorite

some shit happens in the movie but it is not human against human...just HAL9000 going crazy


i live without tv now for 14 years and am going through a healing process (see thread ´´violence in movies etc.´´by silver)

[andrew]

Jan 22, 2014 11:45:51 GMT -5 ???????? ???????????? said:

Jan 22, 2014 10:52:31 GMT -5 andrew said:

LOL! Slater, yeah he's brilliant. I also really like Wooderson, which is odd because when I was that age I would not have liked him. And the character that Adam Goldberg plays tickles me a lot.

''Alright, Alright, Alright''



I get what you are saying, and I liked a lot of the films on your list. I saw ''Gravity'' recently and it held my attention pretty much throughout (which is basically my definition of a good movie lol). I don't really watch violent movies these days but I made an exception for ''Django Unchained'' because I used to like Tarantino movies, and I'm glad I made the exception.

I don't know why, but ''Sideways'' also just popped into my head as a movie I liked a lot, and have watched more than once. Again, more a 'petty ego' problem film than solving a 'real problem' film though.

Haven't seen 'Sneakers', will put it on the list.

You like Wooderson? I hated him. He is such a loser. I also hated Goldberg and Anthony Rapp because they are so pathetic, I hate Rapp the most in the entire movie, probably because he reminded me a little bit of my myself when I was that age. I really liked Ben Affleck. I felt sorry for the black guy.

I have problems with Tarantino. I haven't seen Django yet. My favourite movies of him is Jackie Brown by far, then Pulp Fiction, Reservoir Dogs is still okay, Inglorious Basterds so so, the rest is crap imo, too artsy fartsy and he keeps repeating himself. Problem with him is that he is too much of a smartáss, I don't like meta-commentary in the movies, if you make a movie don't make it some dissertation about whatever. I don't want to think, I want to be surprised but I don't want to solve some stupid riddles about movie-history... in his movies he is too prominent, like he is saying look at me I'm Tarantino the genius director, for example his cameo on Pulp Fiction was terrible, an unforgiving mistake, pure ego. The point is I don't want to know what the director thinks/feels about whatever, I just want to be entertained, and with Tarantino movies there is too much Tarantino. That's the difference to a movie like Gravity, because Gravity is a dead serious movie, the director disappears and just makes a great entertaining movie. For example I have no idea who the direcotr of gravity is, but it's a great movie. I ask a friend "hey, have you seen gravity"? But with a Tarantino movie it's different, because I ask "hey, have you seen the latest Tarantino movie"? That's the difference.

I also disagree about Sideways. It's not similar to a teenager movie "look at me I am so sad, I have problem". First point is that Paul Giamatti and Thomas Haden Church are really great actors and a lot of fun to watch, Paul Giamatti is a genius actor I watch every movie from him, also like Seymour Hofmann, great actors. The point with Sideways is that their problems is not the topic of the movie, the movie isn't trying to educate anyone, it's just two fun guys having adventures, they are not trying to teach you a lesson. From Thomas Church I've also seen "Don McKay" and it was a good movie.

You know who else is great? Woody Harrelson. Whatever he does, I want to see it. Bill Murray is also immortal. And then those two together, like in Kingpin... oh my god!

Kingpin....yeah. Very funny. I have yet to see many films in the 21st century that made me laugh like movies in the 20th century, not sure if I have changed, or if the comedy is just not as strong. ''Sideways'' made me laugh, and yes, both are great actors. I've heard of 'Don McKay', will also put that on the list.

Pulp Fiction and Jackie Brown were my two favourites by a long way. I liked 'Inglorious Basterds'...or at least certain scenes in it I thought were very good. Django Unchained held my attention all the way through, though I turned over during a couple of the more brutal scenes. I see what you are saying about Tarantino, in fact, when I reflected on it, aside from the films I just mentioned, I can't come up with any others that I really liked and yet I always used to make a point of seeing his movies. Its interesting.

I thought Wooderson was a loser when I first saw D & C, but my view of him changed a few years ago, and I think its partly because I started to appreciate what the actor behind the character was doing with the character. This changed my view on quite a lot of characters that I had previously not liked. Maybe I just began to watch movies in a new way. I am pleased to see McConaughey stretching his acting in the last couple of years with new kinds of roles.

[duderino]

Jan 22, 2014 9:02:43 GMT -5 andrew said:

'Dazed and Confused' is a film I have watched several times over the years. One reason I liked that one so much because it's not a film that has anything special or particularly dramatic going on in it...its more of a 'snapshot' kind of film.

lol, can't believe you brought that one up. This was one of our go-to movies in high school, that and Fast Times at Ridgemont High, hard to top Spicoli  

I hardly saw any movies between 2007-2013, but I started catching up with some about 2 months ago.

Reminds me of my own experience...

[duderino]

Jan 22, 2014 10:00:34 GMT -5 ???????? ???????????? said:

Jan 22, 2014 9:02:43 GMT -5 andrew said:

I watched 'The Spectacular Now' last night, I liked it, I wasn't bowled over, but still....enjoyed it. 'Perks of Being a Wallflower' is a similar kind of thing. If you liked 'Spectacular Now', again I recommend 'Perks'. I am quite drawn to good films that feature young adults. I think its a very interesting part of our development....moving on from school into a brand new chapter of our lives, often accompanied by a sense of hope and freedom. 'Dazed and Confused' is a film I have watched several times over the years. One reason I liked that one so much because it's not a film that has anything special or particularly dramatic going on in it...its more of a 'snapshot' kind of film.

Another all-time favourite of mine:
Sneakers

I recall Sneakers being a good one, i'll have to revisit

[duderino]

Jan 22, 2014 10:22:36 GMT -5 silence said:

looks hilarious 

[silver]

Harelson is good - kingpins omg - He did excellent portraying L. Flint, in a total different kind of film. And a short bit in No country for old men (ending sucked, though).

Surprising, Q, that the top half of your list of faves included a lot of those that are on my list, as well - and I wonder what you think about the Alien movies -- there are actually 4, if I'm not mistaken -- the first one I don't even bother with - each time the movies got better and better with my favorite being the last one - Resurrection - Love It.

Contact w/Jodie Foster I've watched again and again - also Erin Brockovich - the music in that stands out, but is a key part to really getting into the movie and the story.

As far as comedies - The original Beverly Hills Cop is pretty much up there.


P.S.  I look to RottenTomatoes.com or whatever for reviews - It's good.

[duderino]

Jan 22, 2014 9:29:08 GMT -5 charliegee said:

The Iceman is about a Mafia contract killer who pretty much hates everything and everybody except his family. This would be an anti-spiritual movie that teaches love by showing extreme violence and ruthlessness. It is more a case study on violence and the dichotomy of being a cold-hearted killer who goes home to his lovely wife and daughters when his business is done. It is a dark and brooding piece and the score compliments it perfectly. Not for the faint of heart, there is a certain amount of brutality. It points to love and spirituality by not pointing to it. It left me shaken and mentally bruised. Having said that, I haven't seen a better meditation on human evil in quite some time.

I just caught the beginning of this one on Netflix, i'll have to finish it, looks intriguing 

[stardustpilgrim]

Lawrence of Arabia

Hugo, my new second favorite, almost favorite.

King of Hearts, British, about 1967, small town during WWII (I think it was in France) is evacuated because of expected shelling. Everybody leaves except the residents of a Mental Hospital. The gates are open and they take over the town seeming rather Ok. Alan Bates, British soldier sent into town on orders, becomes The King of Hearts.....via picking a card at random....and becomes the unexpected accidental leader of the bunch. Bates realizes that the rest of the people of the world making war, are the crazy ones. As the town residents come back as the all-clear is called, the crazy people make their way back the the Mental Hospital, voluntarily. Movie ends with Bates standing at the gate of the Mental Hospital, naked, with a bird cage strategically held, awaiting entry, by choice.

Thunderheart.

The Matrix.

Good Will Hunting.

Contact.

Jeremiah Johnson.

Next.

The Adjustment Bureau.

Tombstone.

Minority Report.

Bladerunner.

Imposter.

Dances with Wolves.

Paycheck.

The Truman Show.

K-Pax.

Billy Jack.

Pleasantville.

Where the Heart Is.

The Usual Suspects.

Gladiator.

Her (after I see it :-).

I am a sucker for time travel movies..... (Timecop, Timecrime...)...

That's all that come to mind.....

sdp