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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2013 23:29:22 GMT -5
Well, if we follow the idea that when we look at water we don't know it's water or that we can drink it or that we're thirsty, I guess the whole issue will resolve itself in the ending of the physical existence. But of course it will end innocently. We seem to have lots of peeps losing interest in true/false and knowledge. How is it possible to function that-a-way? Dear Dude/Dudette, Simple reason for that. They don't see clearly. They did the discerning in the past and since it was minding and not seeing, it didn't work out well. So the conclusion is the true/false thingy must be false. Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize I would take that a step further, and say that its entirely likely that I'm utterly deluded about anything and everything, and that anybody who listens to me about stuff relating to this kind of subject matter is a bloody fool lol And I definitely don't see clearly...especially with my glasses off....heck, even with them on, I can't see too clearly because they are usually pretty dirty ;-)
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Post by Reefs on Jun 8, 2013 0:03:21 GMT -5
Dear Dude/Dudette, Simple reason for that. They don't see clearly. They did the discerning in the past and since it was minding and not seeing, it didn't work out well. So the conclusion is the true/false thingy must be false.
Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize I think you were talking to Enigma there, so forgive me if I'm being rude by jumping in here... I think there is strong possibility that you are 100% right about anyone that thinks "the true/false thingy must be false" :-) I am confused about something though.....What's the difference between "minding" and "seeing"? Is it in some way beneficial to know what the difference is? Also, what knows the difference between "minding" and "seeing"....is it the mind, or the seeing, or something else entirely? And finally, are you ABSOLUTELY sure of your answers....most of the time when I've thought that the answer that I had was the only right one, I was wrong Dear Dude/Dudette, I'm sorry, young man. At the moment answering your query would require effort on my part. However, if the Lord willeth it, we shall live and see answering happening. You can also submit your query directly to our Lord and Savior instead. Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize
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Post by Reefs on Jun 8, 2013 0:04:51 GMT -5
Dear Dude/Dudette, Simple reason for that. They don't see clearly. They did the discerning in the past and since it was minding and not seeing, it didn't work out well. So the conclusion is the true/false thingy must be false. Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize I would take that a step further, and say that its entirely likely that I'm utterly deluded about anything and everything, and that anybody who listens to me about stuff relating to this kind of subject matter is a bloody fool lol And I definitely don't see clearly...especially with my glasses off....heck, even with them on, I can't see too clearly because they are usually pretty dirty ;-) Dear Dude/Dudette, The content of your mindscape, matter does it not. Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2013 0:15:14 GMT -5
I would take that a step further, and say that its entirely likely that I'm utterly deluded about anything and everything, and that anybody who listens to me about stuff relating to this kind of subject matter is a bloody fool lol And I definitely don't see clearly...especially with my glasses off....heck, even with them on, I can't see too clearly because they are usually pretty dirty ;-) Dear Dude/Dudette, The content of your mindscape, matter does it not. Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize True dat ;-)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2013 0:19:20 GMT -5
I think you were talking to Enigma there, so forgive me if I'm being rude by jumping in here... I think there is strong possibility that you are 100% right about anyone that thinks "the true/false thingy must be false" :-) I am confused about something though.....What's the difference between "minding" and "seeing"? Is it in some way beneficial to know what the difference is? Also, what knows the difference between "minding" and "seeing"....is it the mind, or the seeing, or something else entirely? And finally, are you ABSOLUTELY sure of your answers....most of the time when I've thought that the answer that I had was the only right one, I was wrong Dear Dude/Dudette, I'm sorry, young man. At the moment answering your query would require effort on my part. However, if the Lord willeth it, we shall live and see answering happening. You can also submit your query directly to our Lord and Savior instead. Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize Well please don't make an effort on my behalf, I'm pretty sure my minding/non-seeing couldn't receive any benefit ;-) Do you believe in a "Lord and Savior"? Does it save you from anything?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2013 0:42:20 GMT -5
Hey Blue Whole,
I'm not trying to be adviserial, just curious, I haven't seen a single post from you where you said something nice or kind to or about anyone....is that a result of "seeing".
Is it a kind of loving spiritual "poking", if so, why do you "poke" people after they have left the forum, or by talking to enigma about the person instead of poking them directly?
Seems like poking works better when you engage the person directly, while trolling works better when you don't, so I hope you can understand my confusion and help me out.
How can us mere mindingers tell the difference between trolling with little other contribution, and poking without contributing any ideas that may add to "minding"?
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Post by Reefs on Jun 8, 2013 0:45:13 GMT -5
Hey Blue Whole, I'm not trying to be adviserial, just curious, I haven't seen a single post from you where you said something nice or kind to or about anyone....is that a result of "seeing". Is it a kind of loving spiritual "poking"? Also, how can us mere mindingers tell the difference between trolling with little other contribution, and poking without contributing any ideas that may add to "minding"? Dear Dude/Dudette, Ah, the mask is off. Finally. It took about 40 posts. Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2013 0:52:58 GMT -5
Hey Blue Whole, I'm not trying to be adviserial, just curious, I haven't seen a single post from you where you said something nice or kind to or about anyone....is that a result of "seeing". Is it a kind of loving spiritual "poking"? Also, how can us mere mindingers tell the difference between trolling with little other contribution, and poking without contributing any ideas that may add to "minding"? Dear Dude/Dudette, Ah, the mask is off. Finally. It took about 40 posts. Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize What mask, and also, does it feel good to you to both discover and announce that? If so, where does feeling good about that, (if you do) fit or not fit in this minding versus seeing thing you mentioned earlier :-)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2013 0:56:02 GMT -5
Seriously, I don't want to start any drama here, but I'd like to see if you can tell me the difference between poking and trolling, and whether you see either as bad or good here?
I love you brother, you might be happier if you spent less time "unmasking" frauds and liers or arguing reasons to exclude people as unforgivable.
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Post by Reefs on Jun 8, 2013 3:11:26 GMT -5
Dear Dude/Dudette, Ah, the mask is off. Finally. It took about 40 posts. Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize What mask, and also, does it feel good to you to both discover and announce that? If so, where does feeling good about that, (if you do) fit or not fit in this minding versus seeing thing you mentioned earlier :-) Dear Dude/Dudette, I'm not interested in your games and I'm sorry to hear that you haven't found peace yet. Good luck and enjoy your stay. * pulls nonsense emergency brake * Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize
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Post by topology on Jun 8, 2013 7:15:03 GMT -5
What mask, and also, does it feel good to you to both discover and announce that? If so, where does feeling good about that, (if you do) fit or not fit in this minding versus seeing thing you mentioned earlier :-) Dear Dude/Dudette, I'm not interested in your games and I'm sorry to hear that you haven't found peace yet. Good luck and enjoy your stay. * pulls nonsense emergency brake * Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize It's a shame to see people disengage when they get what they give, I.e. Confrontation. I would like to hear Blue's response to the distinction between talking to someone directly versus commenting to Enigma about a person. There is something there which has been harped on in a variety of ways. It happened with reefs a lot, the side commentary between Reefs and Enigma that would spinoff and take on a life of it's own which would leave the person being talked about feeling mocked and derided. That is no longer productive poking and is not for the benefit of the person being talked about. I don't know that I would call it trolling, though, but making the distinction from productive poking I agree with.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2013 7:59:49 GMT -5
Dear Dude/Dudette, I'm not interested in your games and I'm sorry to hear that you haven't found peace yet. Good luck and enjoy your stay. * pulls nonsense emergency brake * Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize It's a shame to see people disengage when they get what they give, I.e. Confrontation. I would like to hear Blue's response to the distinction between talking to someone directly versus commenting to Enigma about a person. There is something there which has been harped on in a variety of ways. It happened with reefs a lot, the side commentary between Reefs and Enigma that would spinoff and take on a life of it's own which would leave the person being talked about feeling mocked and derided. That is no longer productive poking and is not for the benefit of the person being talked about. I don't know that I would call it trolling, though, but making the distinction from productive poking I agree with. I've been wondering if Blue's concern about 'permanence' is because of his history with Steve. Reefs left for quite a while after Tath was banned. Steve, one thing that has not come up yet that I'm curious about is how, just before you exited last time, you started threatening various forms of legal action. That seemed preposterous to me at the time, and still does, but I can see how it might send a chill in those who were the target of those threats previously.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2013 8:00:24 GMT -5
Hey Blue Whole, I'm not trying to be adviserial, just curious, I haven't seen a single post from you where you said something nice or kind to or about anyone....is that a result of "seeing". Is it a kind of loving spiritual "poking"? Also, how can us mere mindingers tell the difference between trolling with little other contribution, and poking without contributing any ideas that may add to "minding"? Dear Dude/Dudette, Ah, the mask is off. Finally. It took about 40 posts. Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize Were you lying in wait? Is steve still tathagata in your eyes? Have you abandoned the new kinder gentler Blue Hole persona? Or should we expect a return of exactamente/reefs?
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Post by Reefs on Jun 8, 2013 8:33:58 GMT -5
Dear Dude/Dudette, Ah, the mask is off. Finally. It took about 40 posts. Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize Were you lying in wait? Is steve still tathagata in your eyes? Have you abandoned the new kinder gentler Blue Hole persona? Or should we expect a return of exactamente/reefs? Dear Dude/Dudette, The Blue persona is nothing kinder or gentler at all. The Blue persona was a result of too much style mafia activity (mainly orchestrated by Top) which basically made content discussions very hard to pursue since the focus was on how one said things instead of what was actually said. So the Blue persona leaves out certain trigger words. That's the only difference. If you think there was a change of heart or personality or focus then you've got fooled by style. If you look at the message, it's exactly the same. You will see that I commented rather late on Tath's posts. I wanted to see if he really has changed. So far it looked like that. But as I followed his discussion with Enigma along it became clear where he was heading. The discussion which was about to unfold with Tath is exactly the same type of discussions we had with him all along. Also, Tath quickly dropped his born-again style and went back to his old style. Just wait and see. Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize
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Post by Reefs on Jun 8, 2013 8:35:53 GMT -5
Dear Dude/Dudette, I'm not interested in your games and I'm sorry to hear that you haven't found peace yet. Good luck and enjoy your stay. * pulls nonsense emergency brake * Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize It's a shame to see people disengage when they get what they give, I.e. Confrontation. I would like to hear Blue's response to the distinction between talking to someone directly versus commenting to Enigma about a person. There is something there which has been harped on in a variety of ways. It happened with reefs a lot, the side commentary between Reefs and Enigma that would spinoff and take on a life of it's own which would leave the person being talked about feeling mocked and derided. That is no longer productive poking and is not for the benefit of the person being talked about. I don't know that I would call it trolling, though, but making the distinction from productive poking I agree with. Dear Dude/Dudette, Really? A shame? Strong words. Is this the continuation of your AI comment? Sincerely, The Great Blue Hole Of Belize
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